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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:16 PM
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Bush pardons several drug dealers !!!!

Anyone else think that George is paying back his "sources" from the old "wilder" days that are beyond the statutes of limitation.



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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:19 PM
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1. Fuck GW..........
excuse me that is a lame post
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:38 PM
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7. "Lame" how?
n/t
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:42 PM
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9. Could that make a difference in anything that is relevant
I want people to be against the King.....put pardons are a thing they can easily get away with.not counting the real criminal activity in the Repugnus party.........
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:51 PM
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10. All actions by the "King" are relevant, as long as the king has power.
And speculation into his motives are allowed, last time I checked.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:22 PM
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2. Who says bush pardoned several drug dealers?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:31 PM
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4. Yes, seconded - link to source please!
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:35 PM
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6. See my post #5.
n/t
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:33 PM
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5. US Newswire, for one:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=54211

To: National Desk

Contact: U.S. Department of Justice, Office Public Affairs, 202-514-2008 or 202-514-1888, Web: http://www.USDOJ.gov

WASHINGTON, Sept. 28 /U.S. Newswire/ -- President George W. Bush granted pardons to the following 14 individuals:

-- Gene Armand Bridger, Elkhart, Ind.

Offense: Conspiracy to commit mail fraud, and mail fraud; 18 U.S.C. 2, 371, and 1341.

Sentence: May 29, 1963; Western District of Michigan; five years probation

-- Cathryn Iline Clasen-Gage, Rockwall, Texas

Offense: Misprision of a felony; 18 U.S.C. 4.

Sentence: Aug. 21, 1992; Northern District of Texas; 18 months imprisonment and one year of supervised release.

-- Thomas Kimble Collinsworth, Buckner, Ark.

Offense: Receipt of a stolen motor vehicle that had been transported in interstate commerce; 18 U.S.C. 2313.

Sentence: Aug. 22, 1989; Western District of Arkansas; three years probation and a $5,000 fine.

-- Morris F. Cranmer, Jr., Little Rock, Ark.

Offense: Making materially false statements to a federally-insured institution; 18 U.S.C. 1014.

Sentence: March 30, 1988; Eastern District of Arkansas; Nine months incarceration in a community correctional facility, with the condition that he work for the Arkansas Department of Health.

-- Rusty Lawrence Elliott, Mount Pleasant, Tenn.

Offense: Making counterfeit Federal Reserve notes; 18 U.S.C. 471.

Sentence: April 26, 1991; Western District of Missouri; 12 months and one day imprisonment; two years supervised release, and a $500 fine.

-- Adam Wade Graham, Salt Lake City, Utah

Offense: Conspiracy to deliver 10 or more grams of LSD; 21 U.S.C. 841(a)(1), 841(b)(1)(A)(v), and 846.

Sentence: Nov. 23, 1992; District of Wyoming; 30 months imprisonment, later reduced to 11 months and 21 days of imprisonment, and five years supervised release conditioned upon performance of 250 hours community service.

-- Rufus Edward Harris, Canon, Ga.

Offenses: 1.) Possession of tax-unpaid whiskey; 26 U.S.C. 5205 and 2604. 2.) Possession and selling tax-unpaid whiskey; 26 U.S.C. 5601, 5604, and 5205.

Sentence: 1.) June 17, 1963; Middle District of Georgia; two years imprisonment. 2.) May 28, 1970, amended July 24, 1973; Northern District of Georgia; five years incarceration subsequently reduced to two years probation.


-- Jesse Ray Harvey, Scarbro, W.Va.

Offense: Property damage by use of explosives and destruction of an energy facility; 18 U.S.C. 844(i) and 1366(a).

Sentence: April 17, 1990; Southern District of West Virginia; 25 months imprisonment and three years supervised release.

-- Larry Paul Lenius, Moorhead, Minn.

Offense: Conspiracy to distribute cocaine; 21 U.S.C. 846.

Sentence: Sept. 29, 1989, District of North Dakota; 36 months probation conditioned upon three months service in community confinement and payment of $2,500 in restitution.

-- Larry Lee Lopez, Bokeelia, Fla.

Offense: Conspiracy to import marijuana; 21 U.S.C. 952 and 953.

Sentence: July 19, 1985; Middle District of Florida; three years probation.


-- Bobbie Archie Maxwell, Lansing, Mich.

Offense: Mailing a threatening letter; 18 U.S.C. 876.

Sentence: Sept. 6, 1962; Middle District of Georgia; 12 months probation.

-- Denise Bitters Mendelkow, Salt Lake City, Utah

Offense: Embezzlement by a bank employee; 18 U.S.C. 656.

Sentence: May 21, 1981; District of Utah; two years probation conditioned upon payment of restitution.

-- Michael John Pozorski, Schofield, Wis.

Offense: Unlawful possession of an unregistered firearm; 26 U.S.C. 5861(d) and 5871.

Sentence: Sept. 14, 1988; Western District of Wisconsin; four years probation conditioned upon 90 days residence in a community treatment center and payment of a $750 fine.

-- Mark Lewis Weber, Sherwood, Ark.

Offense: Selling Quaalude tablets (one specification), selling, using, and possessing marijuana (three specifications), U.C.M.J., Articles 92 and 134.

Sentence: Aug. 20, 1981; United States Air Force general court-martial convened at Little Rock Air Force Base, Little Rock, Arkansas; 30 months confinement at hard labor, forfeiture of $334 pay per month for 30 months, reduction to the rank of airman basic, and a dishonorable discharge.


The use of the word "several" might be a bit off, but enough to merit at least the raising of an eyebrow.

I'm actually kind of interested in his pardoning the bomber dude.


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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:52 PM
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11. I'm with you on that.
Why in this world of "terrorists" who use bombs would Bush pardon someone who BOMBED an ENERGY FACILITY? Very suspicious. The WH Press needs to ask Scotty about this.
:think:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:31 PM
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3. Or worse --
The CIA is full of people who sell drugs -- maybe he is letting his Daddy's friends off easy or letting free some CIA guys who will work for 'his side' against the old-guard CIA who hate him.

See GNN's Crack the CIA
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Cloister Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:02 PM
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13. Not exactly getting "off easy"
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 10:05 PM by Cloister
All these people have long since completed their sentences. The pardons mean their records get expunged, but it's mostly symbolic. Not saying they deserve pardons, but it's not like any of them are getting out of any jail time here.

Edit: I certainly agree the pardon for the bomber dude deserves explanation. That's one that there better be a darn good reason for.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:38 PM
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8. Not jUST drug-dealers..
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:35 PM
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12. kick
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