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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:12 PM
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Sunnis: "no way" to Constitution deal
perhaps it is only a "negotiating posture" but taking Sunni leaders at their word makes things in Iraq look worse and worse ... the US has been pushing a "Federalism" approach that would leave the Shia and Kurds with the oil and Sunnis with "the shaft" ... it sounds similar to the deal the US brokered in Sudan that's led to poverty, starvation and hundreds of thousands of deaths in Darfur ... barring a miracle, the Sunnis are going to tell the US to take a hike and the insurgency will grow ...

what exactly are we fighting for in Iraq? is our goal to impose an unconscionable "solution" on the Sunnis? the Sunni "insurgency" is fighting for a fair deal; why does the US oppose that?


source: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/BAK947253.htm

"The constitution issue is dead until the referendum," said Sunni negotiator Hussein al-Falluji on Thursday. "We will vote 'No' and we will not accept the American policy of aggression to get what they want. There is no way we will support it."

The draft constitution, endorsed by Shi'ite and Kurdish leaders, is central to a U.S. and Iraqi government strategy of drawing Sunnis into politics to defuse a Sunni insurgency and keep the country from sliding towards sectarian civil war. <skip>

While U.S. and Iraqi officials would declare a "Yes" result as a victory for democracy, the constitution could further isolate moderate Sunnis and strengthen the resolve of insurgents who stepped up violence after January elections. <skip>

The International Crisis Group think-tank said this week the constitution was likely to fuel rather than tame the insurgency.

It urged the United States to broker a political deal before Oct. 15 that would ease Sunni anxieties over the charter and warned the country could be sliding toward full-scale civil war.



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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:34 PM
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1. We lost 5 of our troops today & 60 innocent Iraqis?
Why the he-- are we there. See the progress at www.icasualties.org
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:13 AM
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2. Iraq Needs...
...to be back on the front page. Things are not going well.

I'm convinced that there is an unreported civil war going on there, the Constitution is in trouble...

I think that the Iraq war will be a huge issue in the coming weeks.

-Paige
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:36 AM
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3. it will take a miracle to "fix" Iraq now
yes, there is a "low grade" civil war going on in Iraq ...

the US process is so screwed up there is zero chance, unless bush and cheney are removed from office, of anything working out ... they have the wrong goal and the wrong process ...

the pressure in the US is building rapidly against the war ... they are pushing hard to "force an outcome" that will never be acceptable to the Sunnis ... the Sunnis have no choice but to resist ... when this new Constitution fails, and regardless of what pretty pictures bush paints or lies about it will fail, all hell will break loose ...

when the moderate Sunnis realize there is no hope for them, many of them will have no choice but to join the insurgency and fight against the US "stabilization" (i.e. oppression) program ... some may call the "tyranny of the majority" democracy; whatever label bush puts on it, it isn't going to fly ...
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