Okay, after tonight is there anyone at all who does not see who the

[mikehiggins]

media is really out to stop?

If so, let me give you a hint. Wesley Clark.

Are ALL these people mad? WTF? Five video channels and none of them could cut Clark a break? Every single one, and every single talking head on every single one, either ignored, downplayed or outright lied about Clark all evening long.

It was a totally amazing experience and people called me at home to bitch about it. There isn't even any point to writing letters or sending emails. This is an example of the "morning memo" on a medium wide basis.

It is like Orwell's Ministry of Truth.

All of these pundits and news-readers seem to have tacitly agreed that the new guy on the block has to be driven out of town, even if they have to break all the rules to do it.

Just amazing.

Thousands and thousands of supporters, millions of dollars and all the rest, and these assholes still want to bury the Clark campaign with every breath they take.

It really reads like something out of some old Ayn Rand book from the 50's, where the "insiders" resent and hate the very existence of a man who tries to live up to some standard of honor and integrity.

Its just insane. These aren't reporters, these are just people who play them on television. The days of stand-up newsmen like Victor Riesel and Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite are done and gone. Now we have celebrity newspeople, putting themselves into the story as if they mattered.

Just amazing.

[blm]

1. I see it. Welcome to the club.

The press declared Kerry's candidacy dead for months, drying up all his fundraising. He pulled through in SPITE of the media. So did Edwards. Clark can, too. You just can't depend on the media at all.

[Skwmom]

26. BLM the media and the RW operatives have played a hand

in boosting Kerry and Edwards which shows whose really in control.
:(

[ClintonTyree]

2. Clark and Dean.................

have both been subject to the brutal attacks of the media and the other candidates. Welcome to the club. The media is doing it's best to pick our candidate for us.

[Uzybone]

3. I think the voters just don't support Clark

its that simple. I think its time you stopped blaming the media everytime your guy suffers an embarrassing loss. Al Gore suffered 10 times what Clark has seen and yet he managed to beat the media darling Bush. Clark is fast becoming nothing but a footnote in the polls even though the media (which you now curse) barely laid a glove on him throughout 2003.

[girl gone mad]

6. I think you are..

really misinterpreting the original post.

[democratreformed]

13. Definitely, you have misinterpreted

I, for one, am not upset that they had any effect on the results in New Hampshire. I am saying that it is absolutely mind-boggling that they spin his third place finish (behind two locals) into a dismal finish and say he is finished.

CNN is doing a really good job of declaring every one of the candidates done and stupid, though, except, of course, for one.

[Lefta Dissenter]

8. gee, thanks for that supportive post

I guess there must be some voters supporting Clark - after all, he came in third - and this is JUST the beginning!

[Uzybone]

11. You are welcome

Clark has support out there.....a lot of it. But Im sick and tired of people blaming the media for everything. They accuse the media of being slanted, yet they bristle when the media shows their candidate in a negative light. Well shit.....what do you expect? You expect the "liberal" media to do favors for Clark?

[Turkw]

29. Third place bad, fourth place good, oh no, there is NO agenda here

Please, I've been annoyed with the media for a LONG time now and have posted about it, but the spin is going out of control now.

[windansea]

9. pffffffffffffffffttt

we'll see what happens down south to Mr NE liberal who says he doesn't need the south

[Renew Deal]

22. Tell me that when the Botox story goes 24/7.

And if you are interested, check drudge report.com

[Lefta Dissenter]

4. well, if it makes you feel better,

your phone wasn't the only one ringing... the Clark Campaign phones were ringing off the hook. New supporters, new volunteers, people are PISSED and they want to DO something about it.

We had an election return party at a nearby bar, and had about 60 or 70 Clark supporters, including the Albanian group, who is supporting Clark with all their hearts.

I felt SO much better after that!!! We're ready to roll into next week, and by the time Wisconsin gets to vote on the 17th, the media will be peeing their pants.

[lovedems]

7. I am glad to hear that. But as Ted Koppel put it tonight

the democratic leadership has regained control of the primary. So it looks like it is a little bit more then just the media.

[LibDemAlways]

5. Clark is clearly the man the repukes

fear most. Expect to hear a lot about his "poor 3rd place showing" in NH during the coming week. The whores have their script stamped "Approved by Karl Rove" and will follow it until he is drummed out of the race.

[jburton]

10. Clark hurt their feelings

when he called them out.

The media whores don't like having him on anymore because they know he'll call them on their shit.

[KT2000]

12. Bush's $$$

may be buying quite a bit these days. Media has been securely place in his pocket. Media has been playing with the RW to get Clark out of the race.
Today Novak again tried to turn the Clark candidacy into a joke because Clark's website misspelled Dixville Notch. The election coverage continued those efforts to count Clark out.

Funny you should mention Ayn Rand - some of Bush's people are devotees.

[mmonk]

14. The year of the Washington establishment,

so far. Clark and Dean are being hit by the media, dem party establishment, and the Repub establishment. Campaigns pushing real change in the direction of this nation it seems, need not apply.

[Printer70]

15. Clark stopped himself

-Foolish remark trivializing Kerry's sacrifice
-Claiming he was the only candidate born poor- when Sharpton and Edwards also experienced poverty.
-Claiming he paid his way through college- when it was really picked up by Uncle Sam.
-Lack of command on domestic policy- all policy papers published by staff; shows no command of details during interviews.

[democratreformed]

21. Clark is not "stopped"

Thank You.

[OKNancy]

25. Typical

You are doing the same thing the media does...blowing minor things way out of proportion.

- "foolish remark" - in response to Bob Dole's snarky comment. So what? Kerry has done his share of nasty remarks..much worse than this.

- "poor" - another slip, but so minor. A real stretch to say it means anything.

- West point- wrong. He said he had to work his way through. Tuition is not all that is involved in going away to school. And he did pay! A West Point cadet has to give a minimun of five years service. That is called "working your way through"

- domestic- In your eyes only. You have no idea who writes things or comes up with ideas. Many people think he does just fine on domestic issues. Unfortunately he is such an expert on foreign affairs, that he doesn't get asked those questions enough. He can't help it if he is head and shoulders above the others in international affairs.

[Kat45]

16. I definitely see it.

There was a commentator/analyst/whatever talking about the primary on our local station and he said, in a matter-of-fact way, why should the democrats vote for Clark; he was a republican last year! Here's this guy, blatantly lying about Clark. I didn't know who the guy was. Then he started talking about the republicans and what they will/should/can do, and he used the word "we." Now why should a republican be commenting on how democrats should vote?!

I do believe that they are afraid of Clark. They know he can beat bush--I just wish more democrats would realize it.

[Anwen]

17. The media's agenda.

The right-wing media doesn't want us to elect Dean or Clark. Period.

I think it's despicable how the media is treating them both. I was actually not a Clark fan until it became obvious that the media didn't want him. It was obvious during their last debate, and it was obvious tonight. And I see nothing but glowing coverage of how "presidential" Kerry is.

And we all know whose side the media is on. It's apparent that Dean and Clark are the most formidable opponents to Bush, so it's the media's job to tear them down relentlessly. Now Clark is my second choice.

I just hope that people will be able to see through the B.S.

[LibDemAlways]

19. I guarantee that once Kerry

is nominated (big "if") the whores will turn on him with a vengeance. Glowing terms like "presidential" will become disparaging terms like "stiff" and "wooden" and "glum." He'll be described as "French" looking and his ancestry will become fair game. His Vietnam anti-war days will be played up and his patriotism called into question. (If they could kill Cleland on this issue, imagine what they'll do to Kerry.) He'll be described relentlessly as a "Northeast Liberal" Democrat in the tradition of Michael Dukakis. When Rove and the media go for his jugular, it's going to be nasty.

[Anwen]

20. Exactly.

It will get ugly. Even though the media will turn on WHOEVER gets the nomination, Kerry just has too many weak spots.

[meow mix]

18. saw it plenty of fox

when clark was in 4th place they displayed the top 3 candidates with
a nice graphic, and numbers.
kerry, dean and edwards.

then when clark was in 3rd they showed only the top 2 candidates.
dropped the 3rd place like it no longer existed.

*hate*grr*hate*

[cid]

23. If this trend continues, then maybe Clark and Dean oughta

get together and run as a team? either clark/dean or dean/clark? I know that both Clark and Dean ppl are going jump me for this, but both of them are fighting the Dem establishment, republicans, and the media. The two of them plug any percieved holes in the other, northerner/southerner, general/governer, etc. I think someone who voted for patriot act, IRW, tax cuts etc will be pulverised by BushCo. Just my opinion of course.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. Calrk MUST go on the offense

against the media. The bias they were showing last night was astounding! First, on Hardball, Tweety was saying that if Edwrads won 3rd place it would be a HUGE, HUGE win for him. Then, on CNN I hear Jeff Greenfield say, Clark won 3rd place , but no matter how you spin those numbers, it isn't going to matter, he had a DISMAL showing. HUH? Then, Bob, the BASTARD, Dole, was kissing John Edward's ASS when he was on Larry King. He could not have been NICER to Edwards. Right after he spoke to Edwards in such an admiring way, he says about Wes Clark....It looks like the Lieutenant is going to win 3rd place! :grr: Then, the rest of the night...the media IGNORED Wes Clark's HUGE 3rd place win. Wes MUST do something to embarrass every RW pundit who tries to make him look bad! He MUST let them know he's not going to take their SHIT! They want him OUT and they will not stop until he's gone. Plain and simple.

GO WES!

[democratreformed]

28. This is what I am hoping for

Please, please, please. We can't just keep playing defense.

[dogman]

27. More deliberate than amazing.

Brit Hume said it was totally ridiculous for Clark to defend Moore's right to free speech when Moore had been so critical of the Kosovo War. What is ridiculous is that Hume ignores the whole point and the true honesty of Clark's position that "Dissent Is Patriotism". This cannot be complete ignorance this is deliberate propaganda to destroy Clark's credibility. Further more, anyone who says Clark did not work his way through college should join the armed service and tell me that it isn't work. It is more like a prison sentence than work. You give up your personal freedom to serve your country. Most of these detractors wouldn't last one week of this lifestyle. The most sickening thing is seeing fellow Democrats buy into this chicken-hawk B-S.

[Nederland]

30. Response

Let's say I agree with you and admit that the media is out to get Clark. If we start from this premise, you are still basically saying that Clark is unable to overcome the media's bias and shift things to work to his advantage. I say that reason enough to look past Clark as a possible nominee. Come the general election, the media bias against the Democratic nominee is going to be far worse than what Clark is experiencing today. If Clark can't figure out how to deal with media bias today, I have no faith in his ability to do so in the general when the stakes are far far higher. We need a candidate like Bill Clinton--a guy who can take everything that the media dishes out and still come out on top. Clark is not that type of guy.