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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 12:57 AM
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Why can't Lieberman face reality?
He's trying to spin a 5th place finish as a serious victory, and then attacks USA Today for featuring 4 candidates on the cover and not him, those 4 being the 4 who beat him. And yet somehow he proved them wrong?

Come on, at least keep some dignity. Gephardt was able to do so.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:03 AM
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1. Dignity? From Lieberman?
No way, the guy is a serious mudslinger who's just in the race for his own vanity reasons. He's not much of a Dem lately and not that much of a good human either.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:22 AM
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19. He needs to admit
...his Joe-mentum was Joe-verstated, and he's Joe-verstayed his welcome. :eyes:
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:29 PM
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26. Tell him yourself! joe2004.com. I just did.
"Blog for Joe"
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:06 AM
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2. I agree, it's over
If Gephardt dropped out with double digits in Iowa, why does Lieberman think he has any chance when he placed one spot below Gephardt's fourth (although you have to add in Clark) and with a lower percentage? At least he will be so insignificant that no Democrat will waste more than a couple of bucks against him.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:07 AM
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3. Why can't you get over it?
Honestly, why the heck do you CARE what Lieberman thinks? It's one think to dislike a candidate. It's another think to obsess about him.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:14 AM
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7. Because I wonder how someone could be so deluded to stay in at this point
and I've had a strong dislike for him ever since blabbing about video game violence.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:21 AM
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11. Have you wondered the same thing about Kucinich -- or Sharpton?
NT
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:25 AM
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12. there's a difference
they both know they have no chance, they're in it to use as a platform for their ideas. what's Joe trying to do? You could just listen to Bush to get the stuff he says that's different from the other Democrats.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:16 AM
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8. Because he's not good for the Dems
He is more closely aligned with the White House than the Dems.

But my biggest gripe is how negative he is; it just gives the other side talking points.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:17 AM
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bingo
we don't need him around now just taking pot shots at the other candidates, and weaking them for the general. He isn't gaining anything.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:33 AM
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20. It really bugs me.........
how he keeps throwing McCain's name out there as though he was in his party. I saw big signs at a Lieberman rally that said "McCain supporters for Lieberman" Yuck:puke:
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:17 AM
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10. Because Lieberman is like the kid at school
that tried to get into your group by snapping everybody in the back of the head with a ruler.

Get the hell away from us already Joe.
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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:08 AM
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4. Lieberman should just give up.
I'm sick of seeing him all over the place whining and crying.

Get a clue, Joe.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:09 AM
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5. What's sad
is that he didnt see this coming... everyone else has had fleeting tastes of victory in one form or another... Dean's huge lead... Kerry's amazing comeback... Clark's entry, then flirting with the mid 20s in NH... Edwards big rise...

What has Lieberman had to be excited about? The support of the Manchester Union Leader?

If Joementum were a disease, it would fall under my catastrophic health care coverage.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:16 AM
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9. exactly
and let's not forget, his numbers are falling as fast as *'s. He had the clear lead at first due to name recognition, and now his numbers are plummeting and never looking up.

He's had no ups in his campaign. What's he going to do?
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:11 AM
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6. He's still up and attacking USA today?
Bed, old man.............. Bed.
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HazMat Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:29 AM
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13. I hate to say this,
but the same could be said about Dean, who was beaten soundly twice now. It's time for some of these people to step aside and accept defeat.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:04 AM
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15. in your dreams
the same could be said about Dean, who was beaten soundly twice now. It's time for some of these people to step aside and accept defeat.

two primaries and you think it's time for Dean to drop out? forget it. Kerry wouldn't have dropped out if their positions were switched, would he? of course not. it's still too early to call it over.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:11 AM
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22. Dean has the money to continue on
and rack up a large number of delegates. Lieberman does not. The comparison is not valid.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:41 PM
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27. Continue? Yes. Rack up delegates? Perhaps. Win? Nope.
Seriously, what's the point of continuing if the best you can hope for are a few more second place finishes? Yes, Lieberman needs to drop out. But so does Dean. He greatly outspent and outcampaigned Kerry in Iowa and New Hampshire and still get beaten badly. Hanging on in the hopes that you can pick up a few more delegates isn't a good enough reason to stay in.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:31 AM
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14. well, he will certainly get a dose of reality in another week.
if he doesn't quit by then...well, he and Kucinich should form an alliance. The "We have No Chance in Hell" ticket.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:47 AM
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16. I think the media should play Joe's "concession" a gazillion..
times like they did Dean's. It was even more ridiculous. Though I did notice that Wolf could barely keep a straight face as Lieberman asserted a three way tie. What a Bozo.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:04 AM
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17. Poor Joe, lost and confused, turns to delusion as an escape
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:17 AM
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18. of all the candidates, only joe & clark want to raise top tax rate to 44%;
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 09:18 AM by cryofan
COnsidering that progressive taxation is the foundation of liberalism, maybe joe is more of a liberal than anyone but clark. I think I could vote for joe.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:43 AM
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21. Because he's going for VP now. n/t
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:15 AM
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23. Possible Reasons
Perhaps he believes that the primary is going to continue on till the convention. Perhaps he believes he is providing a necessary alternative voice in a the process. These are reason that Al Sharpton and Dennis Kucinich give for not dropping out, and I don't see you wondering why they are still in the race.
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Abigail147 Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:07 PM
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24. Vanity is thy name.
Face time with the cameras is a powerful incentive. It allows him to get off shots at the other candidates and the corporate networks to pretend he represents someone.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:27 PM
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25. Faux may be keeping his campaign alive
For just a few more anti-dem soundbites. It's nauseating. I can't think of any other reason to stay in it. Save what scraps of dignity you have left!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:42 PM
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28. He's having a case of
the Joe-lussions
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:45 PM
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29. I really feel for his family.
During his concession/victory speech in NH his daughter was biting her lip, looking like she was gonna lose it at any second. Joe's wife was desperately trying to put on a happy face, but the gloom was palpable. It would be so much better if he didn't put loved ones and supporters through such a slow, and painful decline. I know I've said negative things about him in the past, but I don't like seeing any of our Dem candidates suffer needlessly. :-( Now *, I would buy tickets to watch him being tarred and feathered! :D
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:46 PM
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30. The same reason as Clark and Edwards.
Ambition.

It may sound like I'm knocking them, but I'm not. You have to be ambitious to run for President. Very, very, very ambitious. It's a good thing to have, not a bad thing.

Ambition does have a blinding tendency. But these are all smart men, they will be able to overcome it before too long.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:06 PM
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31. Lieberman thought he was the "walk on" front runner when Gore opted out
He still hasn't accepted the fact that his "early favorite" status did not pan out and that most of the Democrats don't want "Republican Lite".

As HST said, "give voters the choice between a Republican and a Republican and they will choose the Republican every time."

So Lieberman is going to hang in there at least until next week. He is a glutton for punishment, apparently.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:19 PM
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32. The DNC should hire Simon from American Idol to help him
have a "comin to Jesus" with the whole truth thing.

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