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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:16 PM
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Dean Called For Microchip ID Card to Use the Internet
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/260104deancalled.html

Dean's current stand on privacy appears to leave little wiggle room: His campaign platform pledges unwavering support for "the constitutional principles of equality, liberty and privacy."

Fifteen months before Dean said he would seek the presidency, however, the former Vermont governor spoke at a conference in Pittsburgh co-sponsored by smart-card firm Wave Systems where he called for state drivers' licenses to be transformed into a kind of standardized national ID card for Americans. Embedding smart cards into uniform IDs was necessary to thwart "cyberterrorism" and identity theft, Dean claimed. "We must move to smarter license cards that carry secure digital information that can be universally read at vital checkpoints," Dean said in March 2002, according to a copy of his prepared remarks. "Issuing such a card would have little effect on the privacy of Americans." (excuse me?)

Dean also suggested that computer makers such as Apple Computer, Dell, Gateway and Sony should be required to include an ID card reader in PCs--and Americans would have to insert their uniform IDs into the reader before they could log on. "One state's smart-card driver's license must be identifiable by another state's card reader," Dean said. "It must also be easily commercialized by the private sector and included in all PCs over time--making the Internet safer and more secure."

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Perhaps most importantly, does Dean still want to forcibly implant all of our computers with uniform ID readers?

Unfortunately, Dean's presidential campaign won't answer any of those questions. I've tried six times since Jan. 16 to get a response, and all the press office will say is they've "forwarded it on to our policy folks." And the policy shop isn't talking.

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Wasn’t it dean supporters that just last week blasted Clark because he lobbied for a company that made a product that invaded privacy? While deans supporters have a problem with invasion techniques, dean the candidate doesn’t.

I especially like the part where dean feels it would be great to have checkpoints that could read your drivers license that carry secure digital information, the Gestapo was notorious for wanting to see your papers.

While I find it uncomfortable at best any invasion of my privacy, I find it extremely hypocritical for others to condemn my candidate for doing what their own candidate has done.


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uberotto Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:49 PM
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1. Sorry, this story is already been shown to be false...
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 02:50 PM by uberotto
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/35126.html

McCullagh doesn't pass up the opportunity to moralize. "It's possible that Dean has a good explanation for his uniform ID card views, and can account for how his principles apparently changed so radically over the course of just two years.," writes McCullagh. "Perhaps he can't. But a refusal to answer difficult questions is not an attractive quality in a man who would be president."

And moralizing isn't always an attractive quality in a man who would be pundit either, Declan. So it's worth parsing what Dean really said, and on what basis McCullagh formed his stentorian, five cigar conclusion, before we can judge either party.

Omitted from McCullagh's CNET commentary account is Dean's plea to preserve privacy.


"We will not, and should not, tolerate a call to erode privacy even further - far from it," said Dean. "Americans can only be assured that their personal identity and information are safe and protected when they are able to gain more control over this information and its use."


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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:32 PM
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2. So dean was supposedly duped by Joe Trippi
And supposedly knows it now so he doesn't believe what he said, yet Joe Trippi is still his campaign manager.

Wow, now that is spin only howard dean could justify.

It's either piss poor judgment on deans part or a serious flaw in knowingly hiring a liar in which case he just may be the perfect choice to replace *


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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:02 PM
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4. Thanks for posting this. Everyone should forward this.
The Democrats needs to know what kind of person Dean is.
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