Close your eyes.. imagine it's the future.. Bush vs. Kerry debates..

[Hawkeye-X]

***************BUSH VS. KERRY - DEBATE 1**********

Moderator: Sen. Kerry, you have criticized President Bush for his pre-imminent war in Iraq. Why?

Kerry: I, I, I, me, me, me, blah, blah, blah...

Bush: Well John, you saw the same evidence that I did, and you voted to support the resolution to go into Iraq. Guess you liked the whole idea when it was politically expedient for you, and now that it's not, you don't.

Question one - Bush by a landslide.

______________________

Moderator: Sen. Kerry, you have criticized President Bush for the NCLB mandate. What are your thoughts about NCLB?

Kerry: I, I, I, me, me, me... blah, blah, blah

Bush: Gee John, you sure didn't sound like that when you voted FOR NCLB. There you go again... talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Question 2: Bush smacks down on Kerry again

________________________________

Moderator: Sen. Kerry, you have criticized the Republican Congress for cutting overtime pay for workers. Would you like to comment?

Kerry: I, I, I, me, me, me... blah, blah, blah

Bush: John, it's interesting and ironic that you would criticize this bill, considering you weren't even present that day in the Senate to cast an opposing vote, nor have you been present for over 76% of the votes in the Senate during the span of your career. If you care so passionately about these issues, you probably ought to show up and do your job.

GAME OVER - BUSH 3; KERRY 0.

The only place Kerry can even give Bush a headache is on his military service - but as we've seen (vis a vis McCain and Cleland) that doesn't matter much when you're up against the Rove monster.

IT IS TIME TO STOP VOTING THE SAFE WAY - BUT TO VOTE THE BEST WAY!

DEAN CAN BEAT BUSH - HE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT, PASSIONATE AND HAS A RECORD OF RESULTS TO RUN ON.

[sangh0]

1. Hilarious

I love it when there's so little to criticize a Dem politician that his opponents are reduced to fantasy debates

DEAN CAN BEAT BUSH - HE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT, PASSIONATE AND HAS A RECORD OF RESULTS TO RUN ON.

Iowa and New Hampshire.

[Anwen]

4. Yes, but...

Most people are electing Kerry simply because they think he's "electable" -- thanks to the RW media for that one. Hmm, why would they be telling us this?

[sangh0]

5. Huh?

The "Kerry is electable" came from the people actually voting. The RW media was telliing us that Kerry was emotionless and his campaign was dead. Unless you think the Dems in Iowa and NH are part of some right-wing conspiracy, you are not making any sense. And if you do, you're not making any sense.

[Anwen]

21. Sigh.

The media starts this new buzzword, "electable." All of a sudden, Kerry is Mr. Electable, while Dean and Clark are just "angry" and "crazy." All of the republicans are on TV saying "Kerry is the most electable against Bush." When right-wingers give out free advice like that, it's got to make you wonder...

It's just so obvious to me. Bush wants Kerry and fears both Clark and Dean. By the way, all of the the points made in the above "imaginary debate" are valid, like it or not.

[sangh0]

25. You have a short memory

The electable buzzword wasn't heard until shortly before the IA caucuses. It gained media attention because that was what voters were telling them. Before that, the pundits were talking about Iraq and Dean.

All of the republicans are on TV saying "Kerry is the most electable against Bush." When right-wingers give out free advice like that, it's got to make you wonder...

They weren't saying that before Iowa.

[Anwen]

38. Okay, I'll give you that one.

So why then in New Hampshire did many* people vote for Kerry simply because they thought he was electable, rather than Dean who they liked better?

It's a trend that Bush is hoping will continue, I'm sure.

*I will try to find a percentage. I heard it this morning but can't remember. It was surprisingly high.

[Ivote]

12. NEWSWEEK

is the one that did the survey that said Kerry was the only one who could beat Bush. Talk about media bias.

[brainshrub]

2. AMEN! Great post!

I'm going to remember this.

[Cheswick2.0]

3. exactly.. and when Dean is no longer there to pave the way

Kerry will go right back to acting like the candidate from the Appeasment wing of the democratic party. All the new people involved will be massively bored and disenchanted and we get bush for 4 more years.

[cjbuchanan]

6. I can see that you don't think Kerry is the one, but

Why don't you spend more time talking about the positives of Dean. Why post something that will only piss Kerry fans off and make others say, "look another Dean supporter throwing mud."

Dean has a lot of good points (and I say this as someone who has not picked my candidate yet). He balanced budgets, got health care for kids and most adults, cut the child abuse rate and made a tough stand for equal rights. These are the things you should be posting, not some wild post bashing Kerry.

Talk about why Dean will beat Bush. Dean himself has said that "we need to give people a reason to vote." So give them a reason to vote for Dean.

Just my thoughts.
cjb

[Hawkeye-X]

32. My job..

is to show why Kerry is not a good candidate. We have plenty of positive Dean threads and will continue to post them as we see 'em.

[incapsulated]

7. Close your eyes...

and try to imagine Bush being able to verbally articulate, or even understand, the lines you have written for him, lol.

[wyldwolf]

8. I've heard a rumor...

...that once the nominee is chosen, it will be against DU rules to bash him.

For those who are ABB, that won't be a problem.

It will effectively silence some others, though. A good thing.

[adamrsilva]

14. DU hates free speech?

.

[wyldwolf]

20. I think you have a misunderstanding of what free speech is

[xultar]

9. Buhwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! n/t

[Feanorcurufinwe]

10. Bush :vs: Dean debates

Moderator: Gov. Dean, you have criticized President Bush for his pre-imminent war in Iraq. Why?

Dean: YEEEEAAARGHH!

Question one - Bush by a landslide.

______________________

Moderator: Gov. Dean, you have criticized President Bush for the NCLB mandate. What are your thoughts about NCLB?

Dean: YEEEEAAARGHH!



Question 2: Bush smacks down on Dean again

________________________________

Moderator: Gov. Dean, you have criticized the Republican Congress for cutting overtime pay for workers. Would you like to comment?

Dean: YEEEEAAARGHH!


GAME OVER - BUSH 3; DEAN 0.

[adamrsilva]

15. Good one

not...

[Uzybone]

22. LMAO

very good one!

[adamrsilva]

11. Exactly, and before people say this is just Dean supporters...

DK said the same thing the other day. He said we were falling into Bush's trap by nominating someone who voted for things that he now disagrees with. Bush is going to slaughter Kerry.

[Ivote]

19. Supreme Court says

Bush is the President:
American People say--- OHHHHHHNNNNNOOOOOOO!

[sangh0]

13. Is "Close your eyes" an official Dean campaign motto

I could understand why if it is. It's hard enough to listen to Dean, never mind look at him

[adamrsilva]

16. Rather listen and look at Dean

than John Kerry!

[NewHampster]

17. Great Post

kick

[cindyw]

18. Never happen. Bush can't pronounce "expedient". LOL

Lighten up hawkeye.

[Cassandra]

29. I was about to say the same thing, however..

I think Dean would do better against Bush in a debate.

[Hawkeye-X]

35. No.

I won't lighten up. Did you see the botox job of Kerry's? This is a attempt to look less of a toad that Kerry normally looks.

Didn't work.

[cindyw]

43. Oh please hawkeye. I so proved you wrong on that one. Go there.

I found a picture of Kerry from Monday with lines in his forehead. Unless he got botox while making calls with vets on tuesday afternoon, while waving to people in the snowy streets and still had time to let the paralyzing affects wear off, so he could smile after his Big Win, I hardly think you are right.

[Monte Carlo]

23. Is this at all productive?

Doesn't it take not more than a little healthy imagination to predict what Kerry would say at a potential debate against Bush? I've been seeing a number of these "Kerry has nothing to talk about" threads with nothing to talk about.

[wyldwolf]

24. No, but it is desperation...

...

[Walt Starr]

26. If Kerry is the nominee

I predict the Democratic party will lose worse than any party has lost in American History.

Senate will become filibuster-proof.

House will become a worse rubber stamp than it is currently.

Any amendment to the Constitution the Republican Party chooses will pass easily.

The Supreme Court will be packed for the next quarter century.

That's what I think a Kerry nomination means for this nation.

[wyldwolf]

27. Funny. That is how I feel about Howard Dean

[Walt Starr]

30. DLC or not DLC

that is the question.

I think history bears out my argument. We lost horribly in 2002 running precisely the way Kerry wil run if nominated.

[wyldwolf]

33. DLC

[Walt Starr]

36. Polls in January

never reflect actual voting patterns in November.

I made a prediction. You make yours. We'll compare notes on November 3rd should Kerry be the nominee.

[wyldwolf]

39. Seriously?

With Dean's numbers dwindling, and his negatives rising, will you REALLY be so bold as to say "We should have nominated Dean" should Kerry lose in November?

Nevermind. Of course you will.

[Walt Starr]

45. Absolutely I will

I will vote for whomever is nominated. If Kerry loses, the DLC should crawl under a rock never to be heard from again and the third way should be dumped immediately.

Of course, what is likely to happen is it will be the Whigging of the Democratic Party.

[Monte Carlo]

41. I'd bet your average voter has no idea what the hell the DLC even is.

So it seems to me to base an election as the affirmation or negation of this one particular Democratic Party subgroup is rather silly.

History? Does DLC member Bill friggin' Clinton ring a bell?

[Hawkeye-X]

37. Has Kerry laid out the plans to help

elect or re-elect Democratic candidates? Dean has.

Hawkeye-X

[wyldwolf]

40. So?

[sangh0]

28. I am impressed

by the complete absence of facts that support the opinions you express in your post

[Walt Starr]

34. I'm glad you are impressed

I made a prediction. Only the course of events will tell the story of whether I am correct or incorrect.

[kerryistheanswer]

31. Negative post as usual

Hawkeye X - Do you ever have anything positive to say on these boards? Talk up Dean rather than talking down Kerry.

[Renew Deal]

42. Don't forget the Patriot Act

4-0

[Moderator]

44. Locking.....flamebait

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