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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:03 PM
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He may be a BONESMAN but he doesn't belong to AEI
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 03:04 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
I am ready to PUKE at all the people on this board that give greater weight to a secret college society than to the single most WORST association to ever influence the halls of congress..The American Enterprise Institute.

If one wants to compare the damage done to America by AEI versus S and B..it is clear to even the most cursory observer that the AEI stands as an "elitist, covetted" group to cause FAR more harm to Americans and democracy than a fraternity ever will.

I am interested in a presidential candidate that will NOT have his policies vetted by the AEI. That would be damn near ANY of the Dem candidates.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:04 PM
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1. Tell me about AEI NSMA
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:06 PM
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3. Short of time...read this
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:07 PM
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6. and this
The Right’s "Race Desk"

American Enterprise Institute finds profit in prejudice

By Deborah Toler

Anyone remotely familiar with conservative think tanks’ diatribes regarding such hot-button race issues as affirmative action (they’re against it), bilingual education (they’re against it), multiculturalism (they’re against it), welfare "reform" (they support it) or tougher criminal sentencing (they support it) would not be surprised by the American Enterprise Institute’s analyses of race issues in the United States.

Still, even for the initiated, the ferocity of AEI’s work on race is quite breathtaking. Although the mainstream media are now deploring the overt racism of hate groups such as the Council of Conservative Citizens (see this issue of Extra!), the fact is that there is an overlap between the analyses of "respectable" conservatives, like those at AEI, and the overt racial hatred of white supremacist organizations like CCC.

The differences between the hate-mongering of the CCC and mainstream conservative thought should not obscure the fact that both are at base fundamentally concerned with the question of how to manage the "hordes of color" who have long outnumbered Europeans globally, and soon will be the majority in this country.

CCC expresses this concern explicitly: "We’re only 9 percent of the world’s population, white Europeans, and our country’s going to majority nonwhite soon," Gordon Lee Baum, the council’s CEO, complained in a Washington Post interview (1/17/99). "Why can’t European Americans be concerned with this genocide? Is that racial to say that?" CCC’s strategy for dealing with this is re-segregation, an attack on interracial marriages, closing U.S. borders to immigrants of color and tacit support of the Ku Klux Klan.

http://www.fair.org/extra/9903/aei.html
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:04 PM
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2. True, the S&B is just a college frat house for rich white kids.
The AEI wants to turn America into a Fascist state.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:06 PM
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5. Then you have the revolving door between the Pentagon and defense co.'s...
... that is the come-to-life nightmare that Eisenhower warned us about. Why hide a massive agenda when you can have it right out in the open?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:22 PM
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18. Add CATO Institute to that, Fascists r Us
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:39 PM
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21. CATO is NOT a fascist organization.
it's libertarian. I disagree with them on most policies, but that doesn't give me the right to call them fascist

It's not even connected to Scaife I believe like most conservative groups
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:09 AM
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26. Yeah they aren't vicious..they just enjoy faulty reasoning
as professed by Freidman, Levy et al.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:06 PM
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4. Sweet holy Jesus, NSMA
Just scare the hell out of me why don't ya?

I thought you were going to out a candidate I may end up voting for as an AEI stooge!

WHEW! What a relief reading your post was, though! :)
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:07 PM
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7. AEI:
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 03:11 PM by mdguss
Is terrible. Period.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:08 PM
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8. Yeah someone should tell Soros to STFU...he's steenkin rich ;-)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:12 PM
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11. As a 'resident tinfoil hatter', I must disagree
I grew up poor, but still give credence to these suspicions.

There is more there than can be explained by coincidence.

Not enough there to warrant re-electing the chimp in chief if Kerry is the nominee, mind you.

But enough to cause concern, and hope for an eventual investigation into whether or not there are actually any human skulls still in that tomb. That's a criminal matter -- why isn't it investigated?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 05:49 PM
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17. CNN's political analyst, Bill Schnieder is a fellow of theirs.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:08 PM
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9. We need a liberal think tank
We need to stop being spectators.
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:10 PM
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10. It's Called:
The Brookings Institution, but it isn't as well-funded as AEI.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:12 PM
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12. But did you know that Brookings once had ties to the Bush
Family? (As Per "American Dynasty")
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:13 PM
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13. Brookings is hardly liberal anymore..more moderate but read the writings
of Max Boot, a fellow at Brookings..they are hardly liberal.

Carville started a group called the American Constitution Society and there are a couple other good ones in the making as well...google Professor Lakoff at Berkeley...(sorry I am working while posting and don't have all my bookmarks available)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 03:14 PM
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14. agree
all these "think tanks" out there are mostly right wing propaganda organizations. they have a purpose and they lie to fit their goals. i think that's why there aren't as many liberal things like that. since liberals mostly study and do things based on facts rather than making decisions right and then making things up after to justify it.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 05:45 PM
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15. The only consistently left of center think tank I know of is
the Institute for Policy Studies.

Noam Chomsky, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Gore Vidal are its best known "senior scholars."
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 05:49 PM
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16. how bout CFR?
does that qualify him as someone NOT to vote for?

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_Forbes_Kerry
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:12 AM
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27. No
There are many progressives associated with CFR.
Several of them are regularly interviewed on programs like Democracy now and a few others.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:24 PM
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19. Wait, I thought it WASN'T a secret society?
I wish the S&B apologiests would get their story straight - is it a secret society or open? If it's just a college society, how come Kerry won't talk about it, he's not in college anymore? If it's no big deal, how come it's such a big deal Kerry's people will only say "the Senator has no comment"?

Which is it?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:26 PM
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20. Kerry's "Skull and Bones" Don't Bother Me.
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 07:31 PM by David Zephyr
I've never posted they did and won't because it's a silly thing.

My issues with Kerry are the War and the Patriot Act. His participation in two of the worst episodes in Congressional history.

So I agree with you that the S&B thing is silly. It does reveal a place of priviledge in life at an early age, but so what?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:41 PM
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22. Well, technically he may not belong to AEI, but...
...AEI is PNAC (Kristol, Perle, Cheney, etc) and Kerry has a PNAC'er on his capmaign staff. So he's not that far removed from AEI after all.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:02 PM
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25. Kerry has a PNAC'er on his campaign staff?
Who? Anyone we know?

Just curious...
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:26 AM
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28. Will Marshall
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:45 PM
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23. I agree.
If I found out that any nominee, however, had links to the AEI or any other neoconservative think thank, I would vote third party.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:47 PM
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24. to much is made about this stupid college club
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