OK - Does anyone else find Kerry MAGNETIC ?

[m-jean03]

I am so sick of hearing how boring and tired he appears... Please, someone back me up, the guy is ATTRACTIVE and this is why
(from an earlier post):

I really think he represents a true situation of yin (lesser force) attracting yang (greater force). I think people are charmed by a quieter demeanor -- it draws them in -- and THEY provide the energy. It is a symbiotic relationship. I see this happen at every speaking engagement he has. It may appear to violate some law of politics you believe in but it is a thing that happens all the time in the real world. It is the rule and not the exception in nearly all of my relationships.

Honestly, I don't want a cheerleader in the White House. I want a thoughtful & intelligent person. Kofi Annan is incredibly sedate yet I admire him immensely and find myself drawn to him for the same reasons I like Kerry. I think that the behavior of the crowds at his meetings and rallies reflects my sentiment.

[Democrats unite]

1. No not in the least.

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[onecitizen]

53. Sad sack, sad sack, sad sack.......

sad sack.:cry:

[ihaveaquestion]

2. Sorry I don't see it.

I like Kerry's policies and wish him the best, but having never met him in person, I don't feel any particular attraction.

[goobergunch]

3. Only in the way that magnets repel each other (n/t)

[molly]

35. Kind of like Dean repelling most of America?

[AntiCoup2K4]

61. If I gave the correct answer to this response

a certain hypocrite would hit the alert button. So I won't bother.

[goobergunch]

71. Congratulations!

I was going to support Kerry grudgingly if nominated. But now I'm not even sure if I can do that.

I say "Fuck You" to all YEAS listed here or here. And the same to two small states with 2% of all delegates!

[Ficus]

82. back at you

An Iowan returns the favor!

f U too buddy!

[StClone]

4. He is Presidential looking

In a Lincoln sort of way. :-)

[leyton]

20. I agree.

I fear it may not play well with some, but he's the one I can picture being in the encyclopedia fifty years from now, so to speak.

[pres2032]

27. surprisingly, yeah

when he was giving his victory speech on tuesday, i could just picture him saying, "tear down that wall!"

he def has that 'presidential' aura to him.

[edzontar]

5. No. I find him wooden, boring, sleep-inducing....

the least natural campaigner in a generation.

ANY of the others is more engaging and "attractive".

[molly]

37. That's because you haven't met him!

[edzontar]

84. Actually, I HAVE met him, in the 1970s a couple of times

I am from boston, and met him at various Dem Party events.

He is a nice man.

I refer to his lack of campaigning-media charisma, of course.

[digno dave]

91. 100 million hand shakes

Well, if he can manage to meet 100 million voters before November then i agree with you, otherwise a corpse holds more intrigue to me than a Kerry speech.

[sangh0]

6. I do

But then, I think ideas are magnetic

[AntiCoup2K4]

62. Ok. but I think this thread's about Kerry...

..so ideas are off topic. He doesn't have any.

[dontstopthere]

7. I love Kerry's point

it's like he's aiming for a homerun (in this case, the white house). I absolutely love it.

ABB!

[Jack_Dawson]

8. Uhhh...No

[ibegurpard]

9. Not in the least

But it has nothing to do with his looks or demeanor.

[DODI]

10. Saw him in Nashua Sunday

Thought he came off real well in person. I don't tend to go with the "he is boring" thing.

[Anwen]

11. Nope. Sorry.

[molly]

12. I do - definitely - I was extremely impressed

when I met him at a Biden Seminar a few years ago. He had what it takes. I wondered why he wasn't running last primary. He was very magnetic - he had an energy and intelligence combined with a large sense of humor. I liked him then and swore that if he ever ran, I would support him.

Kofi Annan emits a certain wisdom and grace of life - I see much of that in Kerry.

[m-jean03]

22. Hallelujah and amen!

Thank you, molly. :-)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. Magnetic pablum?

Speaking of his politics not his personality.

[DoNotRefill]

14. Dukakis was "magnetic"...

and he put the country to sleep.

Soulless automaton or passionate advocate. The choice is yours.

[molly]

30. Did you know Dukakis - ever meet him?

our candidates reflect a lot of our ideals - who we are - our outlook on life - our life's experience.

The only candidate without a soul is sitting in our WH. Your choice.

[DoNotRefill]

54. I don't know him personally....

but I did meet him and shake his hand on the campaign trail when we were both much younger. I also have a tape of a speech he gave that I play when I can't get to sleep. So far, it's never failed to work for me.

[sandnsea]

15. "America, dream again"

Yes, absolutely. There is an extraordinary depth, real concern, a steel core. People who aren't predisposed to hating him pick it up quickly. I keep hoping people will put down their hatred long enough to realize we won't have another opportunity to have a real liberal, who can actually win, for a long time to come.

[quinnox]

16. Kerry is very presidential

And I agree, he is charismatic. The voters of New Hampshire and Iowa also appear to agree with you.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. No. I find him repulsive. n/t

[Walt Starr]

18. Nope

I think he is the most boring, stone faced, homely man in politics.

Kucinich is more attractive, IMO, and my wife says Kucinich looks like Gollum in a rug.

[Casablanca]

19. Honestly ...

He reminds me of a male version of the nightclub dancer in Mad Max to me, or like a slightly emaciated cadaver with an expensive haircut. Or a bit like Nader. Gore may/not have acted robotic at times, but Kerry _looks_ like he could wear a Borg costume convincingly.

But his looks are not an actual issue and shouldn't be. If at the beginning of his campaign, he went on record with the press saying, "Look, I was lied to by the Bushites about Saddam along with you. I wanted to believe that he was telling the truth just you did, and I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. I was mistaken, and my candidacy is a statement that I will not repeat that mistake.", I would support his candidacy even if he looked like Freddy Kruger.

[blm]

21. I'm attracted to his depth and intellect.

I also find deep policy discussions fascinating and can listen for hours.

[bearfartinthewoods]

75. IF 51% of the voters are lke you, we will be OK

but they aren't.

[mistertrickster]

23. He looks like a corpse powered by a robotic engine. But God love him,

he's on track to be our guy and I'll support him against Bush.

[MoonRiver]

50. LOL! That was a most interesting description!

We certainly have a wide range of opinions on Kerry's looks here!

[Feanorcurufinwe]

24. Yes. Kerry has a quiet strength.

The peaceful warrior. A dove with hawk's claws.

[Hoppin_Mad]

25. No - Honestly - He creeps me out and gives me the heeby-jeebies -nt-

[Snivi Yllom]

41. ditto

his looks do nothing for me

[molly]

44. His LOOKS?! What about his record?

[WiseMen]

67. Thank God some look at this

[xultar]

26. Kerry bumped Dean for my #2 spot after I saw him on Cspan

@ the FL Dem Convention.

He's great. He will need to pick the right Veep

I think Clark would be a great VeeP for Kerry.

and a Clark/Edwards ticket would be even better.

But I do like him. I'm glad I kept an open mind and gave Kerry a 2nd look.

[creativelcro]

28. Oh my....

[NoPasaran]

29. Afraid not

Look, if it comes down to that he's got my full support after the convention but like Molly Ivins says he's got no Elvis.

[_NorCal_D_]

31. Not particularly, sorry.

For me, Kucinich and Clark could be described as the most 'inspirational'.

[poskonig]

32. Kerry is dominating.

I will agree he is more no-nonsense and less Aussie Hunter. He seems more like a rule-following executive rather than an inquistive nerd, though.

[jean]

33. No.

[Zynx]

34. No. He is repellant.

[MoonRiver]

36. He's attractive in a craggy, Lincolnesque kind of way.

But he doesn't ring my bells like the General (sorry Gert).

[_NorCal_D_]

45. That's an interesting way to put it.

It never occurred to me that Kerry and Lincoln do look somewhat alike. :7

[MoonRiver]

48. I don't exactly know why but Kerry has always reminded me of Lincoln

at least physically.

[bearfartinthewoods]

77. maybe he should grow a beard?

[corporatewhore]

38. Nope he comes off (on screen anyway) as aloof and a typical ivy league

politician

[Printer70]

39. He is boring

He will put America to sleep on the trail. In order to unseat an incumbent, you have to light a fire under them. Kerry can't do it- he's an old Washington saw.

[stickdog]

40. Yes, Kerry's magnetic.

Unfortunately, people are diamagnetic.

[fob]

42. Only in the way I want to sling something metal at him when he licks his

lips!

Seriously, I support EVERY DEM CANDIDATE, it's just that as of right now I plan on voting Sharpton.

[Catherine Vincent]

43. Kerry's face looks like putty.

But that won't keep me from voting for him if he wins the nomination.:)

[LuminousX]

46. Not really

But that is okay, I don't expect every president to be Clintonesque in charm.

[maxr4clark]

47. Why, does he have metal left in him from Vietnam?

I like some of his positions, but I cannot see him as magnetic. He is much better in print than on TV.

[m-jean03]

63. oh, lol,

you are wicked, that is too funny...:evilgrin:

[MercutioATC]

49. Not me

[NewYorkerfromMass]

51. I do.

:crazy: Sue me. I love the man.

[stickdog]

52. Do the words

"He looks like Death eating a soda cracker" mean anything to you?

[elsiesummers]

55. He's alright looking - masculine.

I like that he's tall and thin and has thick hair.

But sometimes he reminds me of Frankenstein (I don't mean this in a bad way, he just does. I keep looking for bolts in his neck).

He sounds presidential.

But he also sounds boring. I tune out when he's talking because he's a bit monotone and rambling.

His positions are fine. I wish he wouldn't make the corny jokes or say "Bring it On."

We could do better - we could do worse.

[molly]

65. Hockey - kite sailing - wind surfing - all girly girl stuff - right?

:toast:

[CalProf]

56. I can just imagine what the people here would

say if Lincoln, Jefferson, and FDR came back from the grave and ran on the Democratic ticket against Dean and Clark.

"Lincoln! Gag me. He looks like Lurch. He's too serious all the time."

"Jefferson! His speeches are so long he puts me to sleep. And he should stop showing off all this architecture training and philosphy. He's too patrician!"

"FDR? Hello? He's a CRIPPLE. Just imagine what the GOP thugs will do with THAT! And his wife looks like a grocery bag that's been folded too many times."

Oh well. Party on folks. :party:

[LSdemocrat]

57. No, the opposite in fact

He's the most arrogant candidate outside of Sharpton we have.

[killbotfactory]

58. Nope.

Totally the opposite.

[mlawson]

59. Not in any way. And we know by now,

that the apoliticals in the center look for just such traits, AND they elect the president.

Are we never going to learn this????

[Toucano]

60. He's LOOKING better lately.

But he still sounds the same to me.

[ozone_man]

64. No, he seems the type that is too impressed with himself.

You know the type. The kind that who would get Botox treatments, the kind that Carly Simon wrote about in "Your so vain".

Well, I hear you went up to Saratoga
And your horse naturally won
Then you flew your Lear jet up to Nova Scotia
To see the total eclipse of the sun
Well, you're where you should be all the time
And when you're not, you're with
Some underworld spy or the wife of a close friend
Wife of a close friend, and

[progressivebydesign]

66. Sorry. Not in the least.

He has other strengths.. magnetism isn't one in my book.

[CWebster]

68. Quite honestly

Something about him repulses me.

[Woodstock]

69. No

My biggest concern about Kerry was lack of charisma.

I think he can definitely overcome it with his other qualities, but let's not kid ourselves.

I'm going to back him to the hilt if he gets the nomination.

But I'm afraid he'll get the same treatment in the media that Gore got (the "stiff" and "ivory tower" and "boring" labels.)

Let's face it, Bush conned the working class into thinking he was a good old boy who was one of them. If he had appeared more remote, I don't think he'd have gotten nearly the number of votes he did.

We have to stand together and learn from what they did to Gore and FIGHT against the labels they will stick on him.

A lot of Kerry supporters here thought it was really funny and actually encouraging the labels the Republican machine (with help from the DLC) stuck on Dean ("angry", etc.) This Dean supporter will show them how to stand by a Democrat in need, and I assure you, he will be in need if he gets the nomination - what the Republican machine dished out to Dean will be NOTHING compared to what they dish out to the eventual nominee.

If Kerry picks someone like Edwards for a VP, that will help, since Edwards is the most charismatic of the field (IMHO.)

I wish stuff like this didn't matter, but unfortunately, in this superficial culture we live in, it does.

[artr2]

70. Kerry does not inspire anything in me

I see him as the weakest possible candidate, I think the repukks will have no problem defining him in the worst possible light and he has no ammunition to fight back with. If we nominate Kerry, bush gets four more years. No doubt in my mind.

[slinkerwink]

72. nope---in fact, he repels me.

[PAMod]

73. I will find him irresistable if he is the nominee.

But right now, I'm trying.

[sistersofmercy]

74. I agree 100%,

Unfortunately, those who would rather see a ranting, angry candidate will not find Kerry appealing. Not because of his true intellectually guided nature or his physical appearance but mainly because he does not tap into their festering anger. Anger when to often employed is contrary to reason.

[CWebster]

76. Problem is

Kerry never seemed to think there was anything worth getting angry about, based on his votes.

[PAMod]

79. Anger always looks unreasonable if you don't understand it...

and anyone that is not angry now, won't ever get it.

[CWebster]

80. One assumes that anyone who is ABB

is angry about something.

Now where did that "angry" meme come from anyway? It came from the Right. Any expression of non-compliance or outspoken demonstration against bush and his policies would be spun as "angry" and portrayed as a negative. It stands to reason that only devout Bush supporters would be the ones questioning that repugnant anger, huh? An angry base looks for someone to spearhead the movement against Bush, not comply with him....Senator Kerry did not and did not begin to display any outspoken criticism until Dean blazed the way. Now Kerry is riding high on the coattails of the angry candidate = unelectible candidate that was pitched by the Right. I guess that would have a lot to do with why I find Kerry repulsive.

[sistersofmercy]

85. I was at the Kerry rally here in St Louis yesterday evening

about 5000 people showed up, all ages, all ethnicities, the sentiment was bush* needs to go. Young and old offering their sound criticism of bush* laughing and poking fun at him. No one was angry. No one looked angry. Everyone appeared reasonable and determined. Perhaps it is a midwestern attitude but we do not like our politics angry. The biggest cheering response came when Kerry stated "I will not have an Attorney General like John Ashcroft." IMO, Kerry, Edwards and Clark will be the top three in MO. NM as well, I've been there and the people are just as polite as Missourians.

[CWebster]

88. You are not helping your candidate

with assumptions that his or your expression of "anger" is somehow preferrable, when Dean people expressing the same sentiment will be assaulted for it. It is a disgrace to posture as if you were somehow more polite in the MidWest. A little like the divisive tactics oh-so-clean Edwards used when he said "We don't need you(yankees) coming down here and telling us what to do during our church hour". Don't think I will forget it as a PA voter, not for a minute.

[sistersofmercy]

90. Sure I am...

and if you want to take insult about stating a fact about typical midwesterns, go right ahead. MO is a major swing state, we live and work side by side with Republicans and we get along just fine with our polite politics.
When bush* came to town a few weeks ago, he was protested but in the way St Louisians typically protest, about a specific issue. The protest made our local nightly news but I don't think it made national news.

[sistersofmercy]

92. One more thing...

I have met plenty of out-of-towners who come to St Louis from PA, NY and NJ who are very nice people, they always comment on how nice, polite and helpful St Louisians are. Some have even poked a little fun at us for being too nice.

[PAMod]

86. "Angry" is NOT a dirty word - don't let them make it so.

Remember how "liberal" was the dirty word of the 80's & 90's? Well that is what has happened to "angry".

[sistersofmercy]

81. I get angry about the misadministration but anger is not a guiding force

in my life or candidate choice. I prefer a reasoned response of righteous indignation. True guidance does not and can not come from anger.

[CWebster]

83. LOL!

"I prefer a reasoned response of righteous indignation."

Anyway you want to slice it. The point is who is it that decides for us what appropriately angry is? Teddy Kennedy and his fevered, red-faced introduction to Kerry?

[mikehiggins]

78. Before or after the Botox?

No. He is not magnetic. He is not inspiring. He is a Senator.

We need a leader, not another bureaucrat. Kerry is trailing a record in office that might resonate strongly with liberal northern leftists but which gains him little or nothing among the more centrist, more apathetic general voter.

Botox, hockey, and support for the Second Amendment aren't going to cut it. He is a rich Yankee liberal from the NorthEast AND one of the most inside beltway insiders in the country.

Tell me where we win in November?

And IF we do win, tell me what happens when Mr. Kerry goes to the White House.

Years of speeches and discussiona and debate ending up in no action.

Just like the Senate

[Auntie Bush]

87. He reminds me of a

ghoul!

[oasis]

96. A strong father figure is needed to soothe the American psyche.

[HuckleB]

89. Sorry, no. Anything but that.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

93. My Repub brother who usually dislikes all Dems raves about him

thinks he's very impressive and will mop the floor with Bush. I'm working on the Clark campaign so this is somewhat annoying to me. I'm almost wondering if he's thinking of voting for Kerry....

[youngred]

94. Of course I do

unfortunately the poles are reversed ;-)

Seriously though? I find he's alright, he doesn't light a fire under me, and he can be a tad boring, but he's getting better

[info being]

95. No, he puts me to sleep