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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:28 PM
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What part of ......................... don't you all understand???
What part of "The Bush administration is terrified of facing John Edwards" don't you all understand?

What part of "The last thing that the Bush administration wants to do is use the information that they have on Kerry and wipe him out and have to face John Edwards"?

What part of "The GOP is terrified of possibly facing John Edwards" don't you all understand?

I can hear you all now. You included quotes, who said it?

Are you deaf?

Everyone knows it, and I don't understand why you all are trying to push Kerry, when the GOP wants him, and please don't say, "BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR" because if I want to win a race and I wish to run against someone who runs a 6.0 in the 40 yard dash, then if I get my wish...I'M GOING TO WIN!

Just because someone wishes for something doesn't mean that they are always asking for something that they really don't want.

They want Kerry!

I repeat, what part of "INSIDE THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT HAVING TO FACE JOHN EDWARDS" don't you people understand?

Obviously, you people don't care about beating Bush. It's a rallying cry, but you all are terrible strategists if you are going to back a Skull and Bones definite loser.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:32 PM
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1. Welcome to DU, tryanhas!
Another Edwards supporter aboard!

:toast: :yourock: :toast: :yourock: :toast: :yourock: :toast:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:39 PM
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i think you are "misunderestimating" kerry, dean or clark
not that i dont think edwards is great i just think hes not our only chance...
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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:51 PM
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9. I repeat
What part of "The White House is terrified of facing John Edwards" don't you understand?

Bottom line is everyone knows this.

You all hate the media and therefore BELIEVE YOURSELVES ALL OF THE TIME, but the bottomline is, their are talking heads who have access to "the pulse" of the administration, and the bottom line is that these people on every network, in PRINT MEDIA ON THE INTERNET in news sources like the Washington Post or the NY Times all occasionally mention that from what they have heard, the White House fears going up against John Edwards the most.

Deny it and it is over for the Democratic party.

Kerry has no chance at all to win in November, PERIOD.

Sure you'll argue, but who cares? I don't.

I'm not voting for a Skull and Bones hypocrite, and I will do everything that I can if he is the nominee to discourage anyone else from voting for A SKULL AND BONES PHONY!

Bonesman v. Bonesman is not a freaking PARTY V. PARTY issue for me!

It's a joke and I'm going to screw it up...
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:33 PM
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2. i dont understand your post
maybe i have been at work for too long or maybe your post just doesnt make sense..people say this about all candidate
"white house terrified of kerry"
white house terrified of clark"
white house afraid of dean
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R3dD0g Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:34 PM
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3. I perfectly understand the phrase.
But, I don't know why you think that simply by YOU saying it that makes it so. You answer your own question about me being deaf. Who said it?

You?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:34 PM
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4. I agree - they couldn't find a way to effictively attack Edwards
He is to charismatic, and to effective a communicator.

He would also eat them alive on the phony "trial lawyer" issue...
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:39 PM
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5. I Hear You,
but am wondering where the evidence of this is.

What I saw this week was Edwards coming out of a very successful campaign in Iowa - and then in NH being really promoted by the media.

The media talks about Edwards and his positive message, I don't really hear too much negative stuff about him. He bobbled a couple of questions at the debate last week, one on Islam - but no one focused on this. He also was asked polite policy questions - no tough questions about being a personal injury lawyer.

I did hear last night the media trying to figure out how to say that Clark was dead, but that Edwards was alive, for the south. They couldn't quite figure it out, although they did their best.

The only suggestion I heard last night was a few pundits asking other pundits - do you think Edwards' popularity is based on his delivery skills rather than the substance of what he is saying?....

I like Edwards, I heard him speak in person last week. However, I don't see the "RNC fear" of him that you suggest.

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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:42 PM
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6. Edwards needs to win somewhere
I'd gladly support him in the GE but he has to start racking up the votes. Winning SC isn't enuf either.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:45 PM
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7. tryanhas, I understand, but
this isn't quite the way to win converts to Edwards (whom I also support). Just watch, this will turn into an Edwards bashing thread.

IMO, Kerry is ahead because the Democratic establishment has chosen him. We have seen this before... 1968, 1984, 1988...

But if we are lucky, Edwards will be on the ticket. Will it be enough to beat bush??? Not unless he is on top, I fear.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:49 PM
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8. But Democratic Primary Voters Keep Voting for KERRY
Even if Edwards scares some Bush guys, the nomination is decided by the Democratic primary voters, who polls indicate increasingly prefer Kerry even in a southern border state like Missouri.
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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:59 PM
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11. Whatever!
Iowa and NH Democrats voted for Kerry.

They are not REPRESENTATIVE of the rest of the country.

If he sweeps next Tuesday, then you can say it.

Until then, NH (0.79% black) Democrats voted more for Kerry who is a Northeasterner and Patriots fan just like they are, not to mention the fact that a lot of people who live in NH come from Massachusetts.

Until then, IA which is also pretty much white, voted for Kerry.

Once Kerry won Iowa, who do you think was going to win NH???

A southerner?

Please. NH was going to vote for the two New Englanders who were further to the left than the other candidates. That's why NH was not impressive at all, as a victory for Kerry.

I'm not a bandwagoner. Never have been, never will be. I'm not going to give a bonesman credit for anything, and I'm not going to agree with, "democratic voters keep voting for Kerry" until the electorate gets representative, and then, I'm still going to say the same thing I said when Dean was getting everything.

1. They are doing it because he looks like the sure thing and
2. They are doing it because X,Y,Z endorsed him (Clyburn = black votes because a lot of them were waiting to see who he endorsed before they made their decisions).
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elsiesummers Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:56 PM
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10. Edwards is my pick BUT
I don't necessarily believe any rumours that supposedly come from the White House.

They are a duplicitous lot in the WH and not to be trusted no matter whom they say they fear.

I personally think Edwards at the top of the ticket is our best chance because he is a great stumper, totally gets the Democratic message, and has a good bio to run against Bush.

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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:06 PM
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12. It's not a rumor it's a fact
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 07:08 PM by tryanhas
If anyone thinks that the White House is more afraid of John Kerry than John Edwards, then they need to go and read a book or something and get some intelligence (I crack me up, lol!!! :)).

When they see John Kerry, other and Bush saying to himself, "if I lose to a fellow bonesman, so what," they see Mike Dukakis' Lt. Governor, and they say, bring it on (John Edwards said it first at the DNC Winter Meeting), because they have all of the information that they need on him and he is easy to destroy nationally.

When they see John Edwards, they have flashbacks of 1992 and facing Clinton. They see him as "Clinton without the scandal, and John Kennedy from the South," and they don't want any part of it. They also don't have any information to run against him on other than the fact that he was a trial lawyer, and they learned from Faircloth in 1998 that that didn't work against him.

Kerry is much easier to run against. Geographically, socially, and in terms of information. His experience is also his biggest liability, because they have a 5 in thick book of opposition research on Kerry...
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:24 PM
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15. Tryanhas, the DNC (Dem establishment)
has other criteria than electability on their minds. We have seen this all before.

Remember Tip O'Neil in 1984, saying to Gary Hart, "Sorry, Son, YOUR turn is coming..."? (But not this year). Then he smiled and went back to his jovial group... This is what I have feared for a year, now, redux.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:18 PM
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13. What part of
THE WHITE HOUSE LIES don't you understand?

Thank you, but I prefer to pick the best candidate for the job. I'm not interested in who the White House thinks I should pick. Or Rush. Or any other lying liar.

Thanks though.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:20 PM
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14. they fear both Kerry and Edwards
which is why if they're both on the ticket they're virtually unstoppable.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:25 PM
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16. I think that will be the ticket.
But unstoppable??? OMG, don't tempt the fates... :-)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:26 PM
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17. Edwards can't beat Bush either.
When you play the same games...you cannot beat them. He voted for the IWR and the Patriot Act. He cannot win and won't.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:26 PM
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18. How do you know the media (Rove) isn't using reverse psychology?
Nothing against Edwards, but the guy's a freshman senator with no prior political experience. True, he's better qualified than Junior was going in, but we both know THAT fact will never be spoken on FAUX. MSRNC, or the Corporatist News Network. What if Edwards IS the one Rove really wants to face.

The real danger here is Kerry. Any of the other 3 could beat Junior if they do it right. And by other 3 I mean Dean, Clark, and Edwards. But I do believe Dean is the best of those 3.
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