Are we here on DU now a "flea on Kerry's Coat Collar?" To be flicked off?

[KoKo]

....an annoyance to be ignored since we are the "Democratic Wing" of the "Democratic Party"....(in Dean's words)?

CNN uses photo op's of Kerry mounting the steps of his jet where he appears as a tall "Lincolnesque Figure" against the snowscape of New Hampshire. He pauses and take a Presidential wave at those who supported him.

It's an incredible photo op! A little earlier they show Tall Kerry, Lincolnesque/Bushesque taking a handful of New Hampshire snow ready to toss to reporters......but he stops...dead in his tracks........his mind goes back to CNN Bush photo op this week where Bush playfully grabs snowball and tosses to his slavering White House Reporter Pack and probably (if the sound was on) yelled a few nickname calls out to "Pablo, Stretch, and Tall One," in the typical Bush
style of "kissing ass to the WH Press Corp.) Kerry stops short and doesn't throw it. He playfully remembers the moment and decides to pass on it. Too much....over the top. He plays subtle here....

If Kerry could have "gunned his Harley" and ridden up to the plane for his departure "On to South Carolina" it would have made the moment even more historic and prescient. But.....alas.....the Harley was not there.....nor were his hockey skates.

Still America got a view of the new "Lincoln/JFK" TALL FOOT President to come. And, aren't we glad we don't have that weenie Deanie with his JC Penny Suits and his "reluctant Dr. Wifie" to kick around anymore!

Ain't it GRAND! The American Political Process at Work for the "Average Folks." And Chris Matthews and Don Imus are thinking that "WTF!" DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA IS ALIVE! THE "PEOPLE" HAVE SPOKEN.

Sad....but true....or Happy but true.....depends on the perspective one brings to the whole situation. :shrug:

[spooky3]

1. it ain't over till it's over

[EllieDem]

2. Sorry but I don't really get what you are trying to say

???

[markus]

29. That the media has decided Kerry is an acceptable candidate

for us to choose from.

And we are not amused.

I for one did not, to my knowledge, participate in the extrodinary displays of hubris by some Dean supporters. However, to watch the Kerry folks re-enact the same silly memes of invincibility they were deriding a few weeks ago is mildly amusing.

[cindyw]

44. I have not seen Kerry supporters say Kerry is invincible. I myself

started a thread about how Kerry will be attacked heavily by Bush. So what are you talking about.

[KC21304]

3. I think you are wrong about Matthews. He wants Dean.

Haven't you heard him on Imus ? His son is a "Deaniac" . His words, not mine.



Edit. Kind of arrogant of Dean to say that by the way, especially being that Wellstone and Kerry worked closely on many things. Ready for incoming.

[BeatleBoot]

9. I heard him say that, too

He likes Dean.

[KoKo]

19. Tweety like whatever his whore's pay him to like. He's delightfully

Entertaining that way.......if you've watched him for as long as many of us have. He twists and turns depending ont the way the wind blows.....and sometimes it's profitable for him to turn his back to the wind....just to keep an audience. And, poor Imus....all those "disadvantaged kids he has to shove through the gates to his ranch--like cattle just to get his tax decuctions for charity and "farming allotment to senior citizens (he IS a classified Senior Citizen and uses his ranch for farming and charity purposes....big tax break for him..) Check the tax codes if you don't believe me......I know about these things from experience....

So Mr. Tweety, Imus and Tom Browkaw and Donny Rumsfeld all have much in common. They SHARE in the great wealth of the US. And, what's more...if you asked them....they would tell you like the old "Smith-Barney Investment Commercials on TV".......WE EARNED IT....WE WHORED BIG TIME .....before WE GOT THE BRASS/GOLD RING!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

20. Matthews is a Dean fan. Has said it several times plus you can tell.

n/t

[maryallen]

33. Oh, please ...

Matthews is as responsible as any single person in America for bringing Dean down --- if he goes down, and I hope he doesn't.

How soon we forget! Tweety-bird is the one who played the "scream-scene" on his show THREE TIMES NIGHTLY. Added to which, was a running commentary about how "insane, unstable, maniacal, demented, deranged, etc., etc." Howard Dean is.

Sure, LATELY -- VERY LATELY -- Matthews has been half-way decent to Dean, but personally, I think it's because one of his SONS supports Dean, and the kid probably called Chris on his obnoxious behavior. If you're a parent, you will know that children are easily embarrassed by their parents' actions.

[belladonna]

47. Tweety want's Dean, not Kerry

A direct quote from him last night on his show:

"In the weeks ahead, if you have something to say and want to say it, please come to Hardball and make it your podium,"

Matthews has made no secret of the fact that he loves Dean, but if you DO want to read an interesting take on the media and the coverage of the primaries, here's the story that the quote comes from.

http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage5.asp

[brainshrub]

4. Maybe we are closer to a tick,

or perhaps ringworm?

[blm]

5. How happy were you that Kerry's candidacy was declared dead for months?

How happy were you that his fundraising was dried up thanks to the media pushing that perception?

Puhleeze......Anyone who can't admire how Kerry persevered and pulled through..........

Come on.....WE were the fleas here for so long. Kerry and Edwards were TOAST, irrelevant. You carry on if you've the got the real deal. Pull it out when the cards are stacked against you.

[XanaDUer]

7. Yes, I remember that time well

I guess perspective does matter. :eyes:

PS-Dean lost Iowa before the yell.

[KoKo]

30. BLM, I made little comment about Kerry. And I said Happy depends on

"Perspective." I stand by my comments. I always thought he would be the "Annointed One." That's why I didn't join in much in the Candidate Wars......which you know. Only when I had to say something.

[blm]

39. He wasn't annointed by the media was he?

Or did last year not happen?

btw...I'm yakking at ya straight...no snark...really. ;)))

[KoKo]

43. It was subtle.......look at the "mechanics" behind it all. Look at Pitt..

Stand back and look. It all depends on the "perspective." But, I get you....and have no fault with you about this. Really! Peace! :-)'s

[BeatleBoot]

6. The last time I checked, Dean has more delegates than Kerry.

This thing ain't over yet

[KC21304]

10. Of course not. No more than it was over when the press were saying

they didn't see how Dean could lose.

[molly]

11. I'm sick and tired of the attacks on Kerry and

getting my posts deleted because I go on the defense. Dean supporters need to realize that they are not the only kids on the block. Of course - it's not over til it's over! We never said that. We are very-very-very happy that we have a winner! We can only be sorry for those that don't.

[surfermaw]

46. Molly you have the right attitude

That is the attitude we should all have to defeat the Lesser one.

[lastknowngood]

8. Stop going after Kerry

the media has spoken the Bonesman will be our sacrificial offering to the fascist. I don't know how much longer our country will exist I suspect shortly after the asshole gets reselected the U.S. economy will crash. The bastards are outsourcing all of the hight tech, manufacturing jobs and trying to bring in 8 mil. illegals to take the low paying jobs. That leaves no jobs for the "middle class" or even our lower class. No work means no homes or hopes. The media will still spin that "free trade" is the way to go, and everybody will be standing around waiting to be trickled on by Bushco.

[KC21304]

12. Sorry you haven't had the chance to hear Kerry on those issues.

Or maybe there has been too much screaming and yelling going on.

[David Zephyr]

14. Damn.

You have 20/20 vision, Lastknowngood. Glad to meet you.

[lastknowngood]

17. I'm not good at subtle but I have been watching

the big money people are waiting for the bottom to fall out. Check out urbansurvival.com and watch his analysis. Something big is in the works. Check this out about the gold manipulation.
http://www.nationalinvestor.com/embry%20report.htm

[bigtree]

13. not to me

[codegreen]

15. there can be only one

that is so full of bitterness and resentment...

i really hope that everyone is preparing themselves to get behind Kerry if (pause, crowd starts screaming 'when!') the time comes.

maybe some of us wanted Dean or Kucinich or Clark to be the nominee, i know i've pulled for all of them recently (i've been sort of jumping from candidate to candidate)... but they can't all be the winner, and yes the media sucks completely and has ahd undue influence on our primary,
BUT what i see in Kerry is a winner! maybe because of the votes he's gotten, maybe the comeback, maybe the press. but hey, do we want the press on our side or not? if Kerry is a candidate that Begala and Carville can gush over, i'm not going to let that bother me even though they all ignored Kucinich and trashed Dean.

this is OUR YEAR! we are going to take it to the streets, take it to the people, and the Democratic Revolution will happen this year. and we will take our country back!

so, what i'm saying is i wish more of the DUer's here would get ready to cheer up and get optimistic and enthusiastic for the likely nominee, whoever it becomes.

[THUNDER HANDS]

21. love the 'highlander' reference

:thumbsup:

[KoKo]

26. Those who live by the Movies are Doomed to Die by the Movies.....Magic

haven't you heard of the death of the last "Romantic?" :-(

[Walt Starr]

31. If the one is Kerry

Bush will win in a a landslide, IMO.

I'll bring a puke bucket and hold my nose while voting for Kerry, but I know it won't do any good. He's a hopeless sacrificial lamb and will lose in a landslide.

Insiders NEVER defeat incumbants in modern politics.

Bob Dole, '96.
Walter Mondale, '84.
George McGovern, '72.
Barry Goldwater, '64.
Adlai Stevenson, '56.

Kerry will be the '04 sacrifical lamb, and I predict a worse blowout than Dukakis in '88.

[David Dunham]

16. In the End, Most DUers will support Kerry if he's the nominee

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. In the end..

is right.

[KoKo]

27. In the "END" most of those who could get out.....will have gotten out. n/t

[Walt Starr]

32. I refer to "the end"

as "the Whigging of the Democratic Party".

I'll be watching third parties closely, because one of them will replace the Democratic Party after the debacle of '04 should Kerry be nominated.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

18. Kerry's more liberal than Dean, Clark and Edwards so I don't think we

can gripe too much. He's a bit more "Dem establishment" - that's all.

[KoKo]

23. Nice Chart/Graph.......whatever........it's interesting.

:-)'s

[Old and In the Way]

45. Thanks, gore-is-my-president, I do such enjoy when people

disrupt a perfectly good candidate thread bashing by pointing out facts.

Maybe they can understand graphs, they don't appear interested in reading about the facts. :-)

[progressivebydesign]

24. Okay, but Jon Stewart had a gag running about GIGANTOR!!

Kerry was being filmed from that "ooh you're so tall" angle, and Stewart did a gag on it.. "I AM GIGANTOR!!". It was all quite ridiculous. I agree.. the media has annointed Kerry. They choose someone every election.. whether it be Democrat or Republican. I doubt that the corporate bosses are directing the every move or word of the reporters and photographers... rather it is based on personal bias. I don't think this is Bush's year.. as it's not Dean's year. They will get the Gore treatment.. and Kerry will get the Presidential material treatment.

I'll support Kerry if I must, if he's the nominee.. but I want a real person.. he has never, ever shown that side. I have always had the impression of him that the thought he was entitled to the presidency, and that he is so much better than the rest of us. He needs to come down to earth.. with us voters. I may like him if I actually can see who he REALLY is. He's an enigma at this point, with good bone structure.

[KoKo]

28. Caliphoto.....Gigantor is ROFL! I might add when Kerry speaks about "Blue

Dress in Iraq" (ala Sheer's article in Salon today) I might really get on board with him. Sheer is comparing the WMD non-appearance to "Monica/Clinton" saying that there's a "Blue Dress in Iraq" and where are the calls for impeachement. I'm waiting.......That's why I said: "Are we here, a "Flea on Kerry's Coat Collar?"

Are we.....???

Thanks....Peace :-)'s

[sandnsea]

42. Watch C-Span?

If you really watched all those townhall meetings, you couldn't possibly say that. It's amazing to me how often I hear people say "wow, candidate X said bla bla, cool!" when candidate X has been saying it for months. That goes for every single candidate. I think there's even DU people who really don't pay that much attention.

[Walt Starr]

25. Yup

We are.

[buff2]

34. I've been for Dean......

But I will donate money to and support our nominee whoever it is. By gosh I want BU$H GONE!!! ABB!!!! I like all of our candidates....except Holy Joe. That's one guy I can't support.

[KoKo]

37. Buff, in the end we will probably all "do it." ABB......BUT, we won't

have changed what's wrong.....and we shouldn't stop think about what's wrong every day of our lives.

I didn't expect the Democratic Nomination to be "wrapped up" in January by Iowa and New Hampshire. I didn't spend almost three years of my life devoted to "underground websites" to have this all decided in two very small states who have "interesting ways of voting."

I didn't take lightly to "Selection 2000" or to the "Iraq Invasion" and those are only the two most glaring things wrong about my America.

I won't stop....with this. I knew it would be harder than I thought at the beginning. But, I didn't expect not to have any support from my Democratic Party....time after...time...after....time.....letting me down.

To solve the Problem of "Selection 200" and "Doctrine of Imperial America" will take a long, long time. THOSE are the ISSUES. Along with Corporate Greed-Corruption, and a dismantling of all our Social Programs. And....there's more in their "stocking full of goodies." And our Democratic Party is complicit.

"Hang the Sign Out.....Gone Fishing" Senator Robert Byrd said on the Senate Floor over a year ago. He knew exactly what he was saying.


Let's GO FISH! Or....maybe Pheasant hunt with Unka Dickie!

[Feanorcurufinwe]

35. DU was always a flea.

Some number of thousand people, spread all over the USA, bitterly divided over who the Democratic candidate should be. Hardly a voting bloc.

[KoKo]

38. I had hopes of becoming a "Tick!" Ticks don't let go.....you gotta burn

'em off or alcohol them off. Even then you suffer for a little bit over the bite. Fleas are hoppity creatures....more an annoyance, but they do multiply into something that needs alot of attention.

Still if you get the first flea flicked off your collar.....it's gone and does little damage. A Tick otoh, has great tenacity.

I think Kerry sees a flea.......I think he might be in for more than he or the DLC bargained for.

Who knows though. Maybe he will listen and be our "Tall Knight in Shining Armor, astride his Harley" riding to our defense. He just couldn't tell us what his "secret weapon' will be.

It might happen..I'm always hopeful.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

41. Well it sounds to me

like, hard it is for you, in the end, you are willing to give Kerry a chance to prove himself to you.

I think he will.

[arwalden]

36. I Don't Understand. Why Do You Sound So Bitter?

Dean appears to be happy with his 2nd place showing. If you had told him a year ago that he would place third in Iowa and second in New Hampshire, he would have been DELIGHTED.

I'm pretty certain that if Dean had won NH, he too would have his moment in the sun. There are many more races to go.

-- Allen

[mouse7]

40. Joe Trippi blew $35 MIL of Dean's $40 MIL before he was fired.

There are a WHOLE LOT of very bitter Dean people on the net today. Can't say I blame them. This wasn't piles of corporate soft money getting thrown in a hole. This was poor people's food money.

[sistersofmercy]

52. I'm very sorry about that , it's just awful....

That really stinks and I'm sincerely sorry for Dean and all his supporters.

[sweetheart]

48. Its certainly the vibe i get from him

DU is the "whacky left" and can be safely disregarded, cuz geez, look at how few voters support dennis kucinich in the real world.

Then we can go back to the clinton era of being in opposition while our own fucking party is in office... It would be mighty stupid of mr. kerry, but not beyond his reach.

[Terwilliger]

49. LOL KoKo!!

:hi:

[KoKo]

51. Thanks, Terwilliger.......I really tried to have a sense of humor about

all this.....:hi: Glad you got it. Well.....dark humor.

[sleipnir]

50. To be flicked of his "Turncoat".....

which is what Kerry is....

[KoKo]

53. kick....because he's "The One."

:kick: