Kerry won majority of young vote and anti-war vote in IA and NH

[DJcairo]

Kerry Support Found Across Wide Range of Democrats
By DAVID E. ROSENBAUM and JANET ELDER

Published: January 29, 2004


ANCHESTER, N.H., Jan. 28 — For two weeks in a row, Senator John Kerry has demonstrated broad support among Democratic voters across economic, ideological and demographic lines.

Surveys of voters entering the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 19 and leaving polling places in New Hampshire on Tuesday showed that Mr. Kerry did better than his rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination in practically every voter category: among men, women, the young, the old, Catholics, Protestants, rich, poor, those with advanced degrees, those with only a high school diploma, voters who consider themselves fairly liberal and those who say they are moderate or conservative.

Even when his opponents made specific appeals to voter groups — as Howard Dean did with those under 30 and those who opposed the Iraq war, for example — they were generally unable to do any better than Mr. Kerry, and sometimes did worse.

In New Hampshire, Democrats from union households and those with veterans in the family favored Mr. Kerry, the junior senator from neighboring Massachusetts. So did voters who have a gun in their homes.

Mr. Kerry's strongest support here was among the one in five voters who said the most important factor in making their choice was whether the candidate could defeat President Bush in November. More than three out five voters who felt this way voted for him.

If Mr. Kerry can sustain this broad-based support as the campaign spreads across the country this week, he will lock up the nomination in a matter of weeks.

http://nytimes.com/2004/01/29/politics/campaign/29SURV.html

[genius]

1. I'm strongly anti-war and I prefer Kerry to Dean

I'm not letting one vote control my decision. However, I'm holding off on voting for anyone but Kucinich until after the nomination is official.

[frustrated_lefty]

4. Honest question

I hear two stories about Kerry "throwing his medals onto the WhiteHouse lawn."

One says he threw his ribbons, but kept the medals so he could hang them on his wall.

The second says he threw another veteran's medals, but kept his own and kept them on his wall.

It's fairly well established, he kept his own medals, several reporters have viewed them.

My question is: how do you reconcile an anti-war stance with a vote for Kerry? I don't care about what he said, I am aghast at what he did. He saved a man's life, and for that I applaud him honestly and fervently. But everything else you can say about this man and Viet Nam smacks of hypocrisy. It's all as fake as his wife's Irish scarf, as fake as his Irish sounding name which was originally "Kohr." Will the REAL John Kerry stand up?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

7. You have mischaracterized your post.

If you are interested in the real story about Kerry and his anti-Vietnam war efforts, check this article in the Boston Globe.

[JohnKleeb]

2. and first time voters and nearly among people who are liberal

I got it all here. I am such a stats nerd :D.

[bluestateguy]

3. Dean can't delievr his own constituencies

It would be one thing if Dean lost, but carried his core constituencies of young people, highly educated people, Internet users and anti-war folk. But he could not deliver even that much.

[dsc]

5. No he didn't

He got a plurality not a majority. Please edit for accuracy.

[joshcryer]

6. Dean was responsible for the overwelming turnout.

Just so you know.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

8. What, they turned out in order to

vote against Dean?

:wtf:

[George_Bonanza]

9. Dean was so repulsive he encouraged voters to vote AGAINST him?

How can you credit Dean for the record turnouts when he did not even win? The people went there to vote for John Kerry, around 40% of them at least. Yes, Howard Dean has made the race much more interesting, but in the end, most people went out of their way to vote for Kerry, not Dean.

[joshcryer]

10. Where does that logic come from?

It's just that many of the new voters voted for Dean, whereas, the old voters voted for Kerry.

From the USA Today: Dean made a priority of trying to attract voters previously turned off by organized politics, and it appears to have worked. A survey of voters leaving the exit polls indicated that Dean was a favorite of those who have never voted in a primary election before: 36% of them said they supported him.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-01-27-dean-strategy_x.htm

[Feanorcurufinwe]

11. From the facts

For example, Dr. Dean, the former governor of Vermont, made special appeals to younger voters. In New Hampshire, he and Mr. Kerry each received about one-third of the votes from those under 30. In Iowa, Mr. Kerry received 35 percent of these votes and Dr. Dean 25 percent.

Mr. Kerry also did better than Dr. Dean among the Democratic voters here and in Iowa who disapprove of the decision to go to war in Iraq, the 7 in 10 in New Hampshire who favor giving gay couples the same legal rights as married couples and the half of the voters here who said they were angry at the Bush administration.

Three of the main elements of Dr. Dean's stump speech and television advertisements here were his early opposition to the war, his signing of legislation allowing gay men and lesbians to form civil unions in Vermont and his attacks on President Bush. Overwhelmingly, the voters in both states objected to the war in Iraq, and 4 in 10 in New Hampshire said they disapproved "strongly." But Mr. Kerry, who voted to give the president the authority to go to war, won more support among these voters than Dr. Dean did.

About 4 New Hampshire voters in 10 said Dr. Dean, who led polls here for months before slipping into second place after the Iowa caucuses, lacked the temperament to be a successful president.
http://nytimes.com/2004/01/29/politics/campaign/29SURV.html

[bornskeptic]

20. That's not what MSNBC's exit polls say.

According to them, 19% of the voters had never voted in a primary, and of those 19%, 35% voted for Kerry and 29% for Dean.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3762821

USA today talks about "a survey of voters leaving the exit polls,"
which could mean they found 25 voters who had never voted in a primary and 9 voted for Dean.

[zulchzulu]

15. That's hype and if true, it sure backfired on Dean n/t

[blm]

12. This is no surprise to me. Although you'd never know it by the internet

boards, Kerry is much more compelling a figure to young people than he is given credit.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

13. 18 to 29 year olds

I would like to see them come into Kerry's camp more visibly but I don't see it.

[JohnKleeb]

24. At our very own DU lol

and btw I was a late bloomer :). LPFF has been supporting Kerry for almost forever. Most of my friends my age here like Kerry.

[PVnRT]

14. Oh, well, obviously that will translate everywhere

Because Iowa and New Hampshire are the perfect indicators for the rest of the country. I mean, why bother having primaries or elections? Let's just let Iowa and New Hampshire decide. They, and ONLY they, truly reflect the mood of the nation.

[CWebster]

16. NYTimes will skew everything to Kerry

and neglect to mention that the only reason Kerry garnered so much support is that, after Dean was pelted for months, Kerry rode the more electible wave, although he hadn't been held to the fire whatsoever.

All the national publications released negative cover stories, and all the networks sppeweded dirt in the week before Iowa. The week after, leading up to NH, the tape of the speech was portrayed as some horrendous display and pitched 24/7. In addition, it is documented by Will Pitt, who was present, that many of the top media big wigs, including Howard Fineman, author of one of the damning articles, all met with Kerry...together.

Open your eyes--it is right there in front of your face. I will spit on the ground Kerry walks on, rather than cast my vote to support him.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

17. So people do indeed spit at Vietnam vets

[CWebster]

19. That doesn't deserve a response

[mitchum]

23. Apparently it did

[sangh0]

18. It puts the anti-IWR argument to rest

For months we've been hearing about how Kerry (and Edwards, etc) won't get votes because of his IWR vote. Then the voters showed them wrong by giving IWR candidates a majority of the votes.

[Capn Sunshine]

21. That shows you the young are equally susceptable to Media spin

why wouldn't they be

[mitchum]

22. Isn't that something?