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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:22 AM
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Dean supporters to flock to Clark?
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 05:24 AM by _Jumper_
If Dean is eliminated will Dean supporters back the "other" major anti-war, outsider, and grassroots candidate?
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:25 AM
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1. If Edwards is eliminated will his supporters back Dean?
Sheesh! Dean is not out yet. How about we wait to see if it happens and then ask the question.

:eyes:
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:28 AM
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2. No
Most Edward's supporters would go to Clark or Kerry.

Dean's campaign is on life support. He is almost broke and he will not win a single state on 2/3.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:14 AM
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11. not only will he not likely win one state, he'll likely get 4th in several
particularly SC, which the media has focused on and will continue to even though MO has more delagates. Just as many media people will go to AZ and SC as MO. Why? Because the media want's to in Myrtle Beach/Charleston and Arizona during Febuary while it's freezing in New York and DC
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:20 AM
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12. Great point
As you know I was no fan of Dean's candidacy but the way it unraveled is tragic.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:37 AM
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18. He is almost broke?
Dean is not almost broke, or at least I don't think he is. What is your source for that comment?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:44 AM
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3. I wouldn't vote for Clark if he held an M-16 to my head.
why would an anti war person vote for the general? That would be hypocritical on so many levels.


Clark anti-war? LOL!!! That's ridiculous.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:48 AM
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5. For the same reason that they backed Dean
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 05:48 AM by _Jumper_
;)
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:10 AM
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10. Well thanks to brave men like Clark
that have fought and died for this country...

No one does hold a M-16 to your head. You're FREE to vote for whomever you choose!

:eyes:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:22 AM
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14. Something there is ridiculous
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 06:27 AM by krkaufman
The first of your errors is to classify Howard Dean as anti-war. He may be against the Iraq war, but his plan to transition to an international force, including American soldiers, indicates that -- were we lucky enough to get him as our President -- he does not plan on disbanding the military immediately upon Inauguration.

I'm sorry to say, but war *is* a necessary evil. But it should *NOT* be waged unless an imminent threat to the nation is posed; whereas the Bush Administration has waged an elective war for the purpose of maintaining oil flow as part of an economic policy: to maintain the status quo, oil-centric economy.

The title "general" cannot be leveraged, by a reasoned thinker, to broadly categorize all military men of that rank into one behavioral profile of authoritarian, pro-war, wanna-be dictators.

Is Clark pro-war? He is arguably not, as evidenced by his testimony in October 2002 before Congress. Is Clark "anti-war"? Absolutely not, as that is antithetical to his former occupation.

As for how this all relates to the original context of this thread, "Would Dean supporters flock to Clark?", the candidates' war stances will not be a deciding factor for their supporters, since their positions are very similar -- and characterized more as "anti-elective-war.
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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:32 AM
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17. Yep, NBD is alive and well!
We always knew it was an illusion.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:16 AM
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19. Dean isn't totally anti-war, he was anti IRAQ war....
Kucinich is the totally anti-war candidate. Just a reminder!
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:48 AM
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4. Lieberman supporters to support Kerry?
Absurd, this.

And untimely.

And frankly, unappetizing.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:50 AM
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7. Gephardt
What was your reaction to similar threads about Gephardt supporters after Iowa?
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:51 AM
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8. Equally disgusted
Except I didn't post here.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:49 AM
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6. That's a mighty facile assumption.
eom
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:52 AM
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9. Seriously, lets wait to see how this plays out and who
ends up giving concession speeches before we start talking about transferring votes.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:29 AM
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16. Hear, hear!
As a Clark supporter, I'm praying (albeit agnostically) that Dean will still be there for me should Clark not be able to fight through the media resistance to his candidacy.
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FubarFly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:21 AM
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13. Not me.
Clark will have to earn my vote.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:27 AM
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15. I already said that Wes Clark was the Dean-alternative
I won't do the "inside the Beltway" thingy that Kucinich did when he told his Iowa supporters to caucus with the Edwards people if they weren't viable.

At last resort the Kucinich voters should have caucused as "uncommitted"!

BTW, the name of the game is delegates. One must support a candidate that has enough delegates to fight for our principles on matters such as seating credentials (Zell Miller), and the all-important platform fight that will take place in Boston.

Supporting a pro-IWR candidate is only acceptable when there are no other antiwar candidates running, and then my support would go to John Edwards because he is not a Washington insider and party hack!
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:32 AM
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20. Not me
I still have real concerns about Clark.

I am with Dean all the way. He is my one and only candidate until he tells us it's over. My primary is not until June, so it's not as if I have any real say in the matter anyway. My money is already committed to him and will continue to go to him until the convention.

As far as the general election, my vote doesn't matter anyway, since my state will go to Bush no matter who the Dem nominee is.
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:06 AM
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21. In a word
NO
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