Dean people who may be looking at other candidates

[quinnox]

I encourage them to examine Edwards and Kerry. These are both fine candidates with extensive pluses, and would be worthy candidates to support. I feel for Dean people right now, but for those that are moving on to other candidates might do well to jump on board either of these potential winning ships.

Websites are: www.johnkerry.com and www.johnedwards2004.com

It will fill you in on the many policies and great ideas these candidates have to offer. Welcome!

[Democrats unite]

1. I find your view of our primary process in utter contempt!

eom

[LZ1234]

12. can someone direct me to a list of abbreviations?

eom is one of many abbreviations I've seen and not known what they mean.

[arcos]

14. eom= end of message n/t

[Phelan]

2. Why not look at Clark and DK?

One has a chance to win by a landslide, the other one the possibility of sending a message to the establishement much like the Dean campaign did.

DK, Dean and Clark are the most anti-establishment candidates in this race

[bicentennial_baby]

5. Word!

You got it!

[xultar]

10. Word UP!

[dansolo]

3. I'd go to Clark before either one of them (n/t)

[xultar]

11. Thank you for the support! n/t

[Jack_Dawson]

4. Clark = Outsider

Kerry and Edwards are fine people, but they are as insider as insiders get. Kerry especially.

Clark makes people uncomfortable, because he's an outsider. Outsiders cannot be controlled, and that makes people very nervous. Just look at his treatment by the media and pundits. The fact Clark is still in the race makes them crazy!

[Bombtrack]

8. Clark and Dean are bigger insiders than Edwards

he's only been involved in politics for 5 and a half years. Dean has chaired the national governors association, was heavily involved in promoting the DLC agenda at a national level, and was born into the power establishment, Clark has been close and well-aquainted with the most powerful people in the federal government for several decades

I'm a Clark supporter by the way, but it's rediculous to call him "as insider as insiders get"

[CWebster]

6. Dean people are less likely to buy media memes

like "electibility" that empty suits like Kerry depend on being the consensus to increase his odds with those who are subject to it through fear of a Bush re-election. Just like they were "mis-led" by the drums pounding to attack Iraq. Some people can be counted on to sway with the breeze, but that is shallow support contingent upon cynical strategy ploys and a complicit media.

The candidate furthered by those means does not earn my vote.

[liberalnurse]

7. No thank you.

This campaign season has taught me alot about the referenced candidates. They actally lost my vote.

[Don Claybrook]

9. Believe me, I'm thinking about it and looking

I think Dean would've been a great president, but all of a sudden, he's fatally-flawed. I know some of my fellow Dean supporters will jump all over me for that statement, but hold your fire a moment. It comes down to that thing about perception being reality. It has nothing to do with objective truth. I really think he would've been a great president, but he's going to have a really tough road ahead. I don't imagine he'll be bringing much more money into the coffers at this point.

But for me, it was never about hero worship, never about the man. Rather, it was about what the candidate could bring to the office, what he could do for the country. I measure all the candidates against a set of ideals that they'll never achieve. Kucinich comes closest, but that's not happening. So I thought Howard Dean was the best compromise. But his candidacy is becoming less realistic every day. It's a sad story, and he's gotten a raw deal, but it's a story about one person, and I need to attach more importance to a story about 300,000,000 people.

So I'm thinking Kerry will necessarily be my replacement for Howard Dean. I take comfort in the oft-repeated argument about him being more liberal than Howard Dean. I very much disagree with some of his votes, and with some of his statements. But I think he has a long record of pretty progressive behavior. And I think he can kick the holy hell out of Bush.

Edwards would be OK also. Not my favorite, but I'd do cartwheels all the way to the voting booth to pull the lever for him were he to be the nominee.

Clark? Well, I wouldn't be too thrilled about voting for him, but if that was my only choice, I'd certainly do it.

By the way, thanks for your accomodating tone. It's not much fun having to shop for another candidate, and it's not made any easier with the hard-sell, with the constant badmouthing of Howard Dean, and so on.

For now, I'm keeping my Dean logo. I guess I'm stubborn.

[LoZoccolo]

13. Thanks.

I didn't even know these two were running. The links are a great help.

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