Kerry Is Unelectable

[luigi8888]

He's another Dukakis - aloof, rich, Massachussetts liberal. His voting record, his wife's money, his associations with the Kennedy's will all hurt him in the election. He probably won't even have a real shot.
Criticize Dean as unelectable if you will but Kerry isn't so electable, either.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. Clark is the most electable, yes?

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

2. Nice first post

perhaps you can add some facts.

[a_random_joel]

3. Bush is unelectable.

Remember?

[lovedems]

9. Thanks,

These posts are getting ridiculous.

Kerry isn't my first choice but the voters think he is electable so far.

If I want to hear bashing about democrats, I will go to freeperville.

[a_random_joel]

23. Exactly

Kerry isn't my first choice either.

But we're screwed if we have to suffer through another 4 years of War Profiteers Gone Wild.


Any of our fine candidates is electable. Any of them.

[eileen_d]

4. Please edit your post to include Skull and Bones

Or better yet, replace the whole thing with "Nyah nyah nyah!"

[maddezmom]

7. LOL

it's really heating up here today.:eyes:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

13. with hot air. nt

[molly]

5. Meet ya back here next January!

[sangh0]

6. I am susceptible to fact-free arguments

Please continue

[lcordero]

8. It's not right to insult Dukakis like that

Dukakis came from humble beginnings.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

28. Dukakis' father was a doctor.

If you want any indicator- he didn't grow up poor.

[Walt Starr]

10. I agree, he is unelectable

History is replete with sitting Senators who were unable to unseat incumbent presidents.

[Don Claybrook]

11. Seems like 80% of the public disagrees with you

And he still beats the shit out of the aloof, rich Connecticut/Texas dictator. And Bush's associations with the bin Ladens and Enron will hurt him in the election, now that more folks know about these associations.

Want anymore tit for tat? I have an endless supply, thanks to President Dimwit.

[oasis]

12. Association with the Kennedy's will hurt him? With who? Bring 'em on.

[girl gone mad]

16. About 95% of..

the people in the south, last I heard.

[Don Claybrook]

27. If these fuckwits would really rather vote for Bush than Kerry

Then they're pretty far gone already. I don't happen to believe that's the case, but if it is, it's a lost case anyway.

[girl gone mad]

14. I don't have..

a good feeling about his chances, either, though I will probably support him if he is the nominee.

At least he's taller than Bush...apparently, that counts for something with voters.

[Valjean]

15. I don't like the Bonesman ...

I'm not in favor of the Bonesman Kerry. But I do think that he is electable. That seems to be the gist of a lot of exit polling. People are voting for Kerry based on his "electability".

Kerry's ties to Michael Dukakis may be problematic. It will be easy to link these two together.

However, the man is DEFINITELY electable.

[oasis]

17. Willie Horton brought Dukakis down.

[girl gone mad]

19. Historically..

choosing the most electible hasn't worked.

[Old and In the Way]

29. Just so you know.

Kerry = Good Bonesman
Bush = Bad Bonesman

[Valjean]

38. Just so YOU know

Bonesman = Elite/Exclusive
Bonesman = The Ultimate Old Boys Network
Bonesman = Secretive
Bonesman = Un-American

[oasis]

44. Only one will pack the Supreme Court with right wing judges? Now you know.

[NNN0LHI]

18. Karl? Is that you Karl? n/t

[rpf113]

20. One great Kucinich quote:

"Of course I'm electable if you vote for me!"

I think it will be very tough for Kerry to beat Bush. He needs either Clark or Edwards as his VP--that's certain--but I do believe he has a chance. The odds are clearly against any Democrat beating Bush right now though.

Let's just hope things only go down hill for Bush from here.

[Don Claybrook]

25. I don't know if Bush will be that tough to beat

Sure, we all need to fight hard, not give an inch, and have a siege mentality, and we have BBV to deal with. But I don't think there are that many folks left who like what's become of our country under Bush. Look at the turnout in Iowa and New Hampshire. Look at any Internet poll. Look at any neutural discussion group. The man is soundly hated by large portions of the population.

[sistersofmercy]

36. That's a great quote!

[scheming daemons]

41. 250 million reasons why Bush will be tough to beat... nm

[IndianaGreen]

21. “electability” is a code word for moving to the right

The surge in support for the Kerry campaign is in large measure the product of efforts by the Democratic Party establishment, with the support of the major media, to channel antiwar sentiment behind a candidate deemed more politically reliable than Dean, the former governor of a small New England state who has made sharp-tongued attacks on “Washington Democrats” as well as on the Bush administration.

Kerry has sought to differentiate himself from Dean, not on the war itself, but by presenting himself as more “electable,” a stance that means very different things to different people. For the political and media elite, “electability” is a code word for moving to the right and reassuring the ruling class of one’s fundamental loyalty. Dean’s direct opposition to the Bush administration’s decision to attack Iraq is, as the Washington Post declared in a December 17 editorial, “beyond the mainstream,” even though tens of millions of people opposed the war.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jan2004/dems-j29.shtml


Leon Trotsky

[freetempe]

35. DING DING DING DING DING

Exactly Right IndianaGreen. Electability is not only a codeword for "right-wing", its also a scare word to the sheeple in the party who are afraid of staking out the honest, correct and moral positions that might be....gasp.... controversial but need to be discussed.

[atre]

47. why support kerry, then, who is WRONG on all those issues?

nm

[jpgpenn]

22. Kerry is "unelectable" by this DEM!

that is for dam sure. I will not go along with the theory of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. If the majority of the party want a slimebag like Kerry, let them get him elected on there own. Our country doesn't need the sickening repuke bastard in our white house now or a clone of him!

[Skidmore]

24. *Sigh*

.........

[Octafish]

26. Wrong.

Kerry is the best candidate we've seen since 1968. Liberal on the things that matter. Conservative on the things that need to be protected. Leadership tested in combat. Don't believe me, go and find out for yourself.

If he's our nominee, it's buh-bye Bushler. What's wrong with that?

[Old and In the Way]

30. Well you convinced me.

Kerry's going to be a great President of the United States.


YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAA!

[Carl Spackler]

31. Agree, but for a different reason

I think the botox thing will be the next "screech heard round the world". I'm watching the debate now and it's pretty obvious this is not the same noble brow of a few months ago. No big deal, except they can play his sound bite of "never heard of that" over and over while showing Drudge's before/after photos.

We can spend 70% of news hours on Laci Peterson, Michael Jackson and botox, but not 2% on real issues.

[hippiechick]

32. Kerry: Yes AND No.

Hmm, how's THAT for a winning platform ?? :eyes:


:hippie:

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[Pantherman]

34. Dean Yes or No

I have to say I would vote for dean but kerry will probly win unless dean turns around real fast.

[TopesJunkie]

37. Yessiree -- He's not going to win the Gee EEE! --

I wish he would.
I wish he could.
But John won't go.
He's just too slow.

Know it now.
Know it how.
It's not too late.
To change our fate.

The party hearty.
Let's get smarty.
It is what's good for us.
Come on, get on the bus.

[floridaguy]

39. Clark is the most electable Democratic candidate - period. (n/t)

[CalebHayes]

40. Not like Dean is

[isbister]

42. Embrace JFK and RFK

and to some degree EMK.

We're going to ring in the new Camelot, we're going to give America a reason to hope and end the bush and ashcroft rule of fear!

[kodi]

43. the least likely candidate to institute real, substantial change in dc

a true washington insider who will do nothing to break the hold on the system by those are already weilding power to the deteriment of the general population.

i'll vote for kerry before bush, but neither represent a challenge to the established socio-economic power structure that runs this country. and it is those folks who are fucking it up for the majority of us while they increase their wealth.

for change, vote dean or as a hope that a non-politician can somehow break things up in dc, vote clark, or the lobbyists nightmare, edwards.

personally i would expect edwards, clark, dean, then kerry in that order of vote getting come nov, 2004.

at this point and without bush tanking or choking on another pretzel, i think kerry is about as electable as dean, viz., not at all, and either clark or edwards would garner more votes in the battleground states that will decide the election in 2004.

there are only about a dozen states that will be the foci of the fight in 2004. the democratic base is solid in new england (minus NH), the northeast, and california, the dems have to take back WV,

the election will be fought in mo, iowa, nm, nv, ar, tn, fl, la, sd, mn, wi, mi, oh, or, wa.

the democrats must realize the elections turns upon these few states and they need to act accordingly to place at the head of their ticket the man or woman who can challenge bush the best in these critical states.

i think that edwards and clark will do better than kerry or dean in these states.

after it is agreed "anybody but bush" is the goal, the dems have to find the guy who can best best bush, and when looking at the battle ground states and their voters, it ain't kerry.

[yellowdawgdem]

45. Kerry is electable

If Clark is so electable, then why isn't he doing better in these early primaries?

[Leilani]

48. New Hampshire was Clark's 1st election ever

All these other people have been doing this for years.

Clark beat 2 Senators.

Clark came in behind 2 politicians from neighboring states, who were known very well, had been campaigning there a long time.

I think he has done an amazing job, trying to catch up to the others.

[scheming daemons]

46. Not to mention the Botox....

http://www2.observer.com/observer/pages/frontpage7.asp


God, we need to wake up and start supporting Edwards...