How many "Nobody but Kerry" posts have you seen? (General Election)

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

I am referring to people saying they will not vote for the nominee in the GE if it is not Kerry. There may have been some, but I don't remember seeing any.

On the other hand, there have been plenty of NBD posts claiming that they will not vote for the Democratic nominee if it isn't Dean. Basically trashing ABB.

Are Kerry supporters more pragmatic, or are some Dean supporters just being emotional at the moment? I'm guessing 99.9% of Dean supporters will eventually drift to ABB if Dean loses the nomination.

[liberalnurse]

1. I have no problem with sharing.....

I will not vote for Kerry in the GE....I'll write in Dean.

[onehandle]

2. Why not Nader or Bush?

Same result.

[liberalnurse]

6. I just won't support a phony democrat.

Thats how I see Kerry.....an empty suit who is full of dirty tricks and behaves like Brutus.


Here is a thread that supports my choice....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=229279

[tinanator]

17. Oh now

thats a very genuine Democrat.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

27. Good call there

good eyes.

[WilliamPitt]

19. Brutus?

Kerry stabbed Caesar? Jeebus, how did that not make the paper?

[Rebellious Republican]

5. Hey why not just write in McCain or Nader, or better yet why even

bother going to the polls. Why not just go shopping or something!
:crazy:

[zoeyfong]

35. ditto. kerry is part of what's wrong with the dem. party.

[cavebat2000]

3. Im sorry but i cant stand Kerry

Ill have to punch myself in the face before I vote for him... but no matter what, Bush must go.

[zoeyfong]

36. America must hit rock bottom under repubs.

As one who was totally against people voting nader in 2000, i can not subscribe to the current ABB movement. The democratic party must no longer be complicit in taking america down the destructive path it is on. Kerry's democratic party has sold out america and every decent thing this party is supposed to stand for one time too many. His whole 'veteran, tough on defense' sales pitch is a validation of the worst aspects of conservatism and bush's criminal, lie-based war. It is time for liberalism to forcefully make the case for itself, instead of cravenly denying and apologizing for itself. Howard Dean did that, and then when the moment of truth in the voting booth came, democratic voters showed themselves to be the snivelling wimps their opponents have always said they were. The way I see it, it would not be a bad thing if the democratic party lost in 2004 after abandoning and denying its base yet again, and to have America hit rock bottom under total republican control. Maybe that is what it will take for some strong democratic leaders to rise from the ashes and finally get the support they deserve.

[eileen_d]

4. Kerry supporters are more pragmatic

I can't speak for Dean supporters... and I wouldn't want to.

[MercutioATC]

7. A lot of Dean supporters started out disgusted with Dems in the past.

They (like me) only became involved this election because they found somebody who they saw as different. That gone, we're disgusted again...

...if Kerry's the nominee, he's got my vote. That's it.

[KFC]

8. I think the Dean people will come around.

Perhaps bitter at the moment, but how could you be a Democrat/progressive and not cast your vote to get Bush out of office?

When the time comes, Kerry will get the support. Count on it.

[MercutioATC]

9. Kerry will get my vote if he's the nominee, not my support.

As far as I'm concerned, Kerry's what's wrong with this party. Is he better than Bush? Yes. Will I vote for him if that's my only chouce?? Yes. Will I feel I've, once again, cast another near-meaningless vote and wasted an hour of my time? Yes.

[zoeyfong]

37. don't count on it.

[LostInTheMaise]

10. Too many

Kerry does nothing for me. Dean was cheated and I hope he fights until the end. If Kery keeps up his crap then Dean should run third party.

[oasis]

13. If Dean goes 3rd Party that would make him a liar, a loser and a pariah.

[MercutioATC]

14. He's already said he won't, so we can put that issue to rest.

[zoeyfong]

39. This Dean-icrat is not voting for kerry even if dean endorses him.

[John_H]

11. Time will tell. Supporters of losing guys will divide into two groups

The bandwagon jumpers will create an endless bandwagon, even if it's only in their minds--they'll support the man who represents everything that disgusts them by denying his opponent a vote. I sure hope a third part vote or a write in makes them feel better since in the real world they sure won't be making a dent in Bush junta.

Hopefully, a far larger number will take stock of the situation their country is in and ask themselves whether they can do more good for more people by supporting the Dem nominee or George W. Bush.

[KFC]

15. Very well said.

I think a lot of the Dean supporters are a bit emotional right now.

A very small percentage of Dean people may write in Dean, or Nader, or Michael Moore..., but it will be just a handfull. Because it makes no sense. Probably 200 people across the country.

The anti-ABB crowd is just talking shit. Kerry will have their support.

[Jersey Devil]

30. "bandwagon jumpers"?

I support Dean but I have always admired Kerry and never would have a problem voting for him. It was a difficult decision for me to choose between the two of them and I chose Dean because at the time Kerry did not seem energized or a very good campaigner.

I don't think that makes me a bandwagon jumper to like more than one of the candidates. I think you are making a big mistake if you believe Kerry "disgusts" all Dean supporters.

[oasis]

12. Zero. Kerry people tend to be more practical. (eom)

[JohnKleeb]

16. none

[dansolo]

18. Are you forgetting about the multitude of ABD posts?

Amazing how DUers have such short memories.

[polmaven]

25. please give me

an example....Multiple posts? I'm not from MO, but....show me.

[sandnsea]

28. Me

I really really really don't like Howard Dean. I prefer ANY candidate over Howard Dean. I've said I wouldn't vote for him a couple times in the last 6 months, when he's said some really awful things. But in the end, the Supreme Court is too important to let my personal dislike of the man get in the way, which I've said way more times. But there are very few other people on this board who have ever said they wouldn't support and vote for Dean.

[George_Bonanza]

20. I haven't seen any NBK threads

I've never felt that way. If Kerry was in an accident (God forbid) and was physically unable to continue the race, I would gladly carry on the fight with Dean, Clark, or Edwards.

[mitchum]

21. Absolutely none

Maybe because we're REAL Democrats?

ABB

[Lobo_13]

22. Let me clear it up for you

I will not be voting for Kerry.

I'm not emotional, but as serious as a heart attack.

I have already switched to independent.

He has no redeeming quality in my eyes and even if the planets align and he squeaks past Bush, he'll be totally ineffective.

The line is drawn, this far and NO FARTHER!

[fabius]

23. Of all the Dean supporters know personally

ALL are ABB.

Not counting DU members most of whom I don't know personally, of about a dozen local active Dean supporters I work with, NONE will vote for Nader, Independent, Green or what have you if somebody else is the nominee.

I don't know all the Meetup people personally so this isn't a universal principle.

If Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Clark or whoever is nominated, I expect to see the same people out canvassing this summer and fall. I dam' well hope so.

I think some DU people are more emotionally involved at this point than the Democratic voter at large.

[WilliamPitt]

24. "I think some DU people are more emotionally involved..."

Ya think?

Hoo.

[KFC]

26. I agree.

There is mabye a handfull of Dean people on DU that claim they won't vote for Kerry in the GE.

They just happen to be very "vocal".

[Jersey Devil]

29. Hey, I'm Dean and ABB and so are my friends so why

do you insist on generalizing like that? Saying those kinds of things can only cause hard feelings.

If and when Dean is out of the race some will need some time to adjust. If you crowd them too much too early you will alienate them forever.

[Exgeneral]

31. I think most Kerry suporters know the fix is in

and you won't hear "NBK" from them unless their boy mucks the primaries up.

[mitchum]

33. Yes, we all received our secret coded message a few weeks ago

[NV1962]

32. Don't push your luck

If the Kerry campaign goes on provoking things like this corrective by tossing out misguided missiles at fellow Democrats, start counting on my personal engagement in an active ABK effort - conducted off-line.

I'm about ready to pay some back, with interest; ongoing, deliberate and systemic misbehavior won't go by unchecked or unpunished anymore.

[TucsonGreen]

34. Vote for the Democrat for Prez, Join the Green Party

It'd be a great way to have your cake and eat it too! Get rid of Bush AND send a message that you're fed up with the centrists, capitulators and corporate whores!

I'm a progressive with no party loyalty (as all people should be, IMHO...party loyalty seems a sign of a feeble mind to me...I can't comprehend the issues so I'll just vote for the person with my chosen letter behind their name). When the Democrat is progressive, or has a chance to beat an ultra-conservative or there is no other option, I vote for the Democrat. When the Democrat is a DINO, or has no chance, or it would help build a REAL opposition party, I vote Green. You can too!

When you register Green, you REALLY let the Demo leadership know that you're pissed. And it helps the Greens with ballot status, funding, getting in debates and all the other stuff we need to try to get a REAL opposition party in this country.

Then, if you're really pissed, educate yourself and devise a strategy. In 2000 my partner made us wait until 30 mins before the polls closed in California so we could get early exit polling and make sure there was NO chance Gore would lose Cali. Then we went and confidently voted for Nader. (I would've anyway. Gore lost me when he picked Lieberman). Point is, my vote didn't cost Gore ANYTHING, AND it helped build some real opposition.

Ummm...I should get off my soapbox now...sorry.

;-)

[stickdog]

38. How many Kerry supporters have said they would never vote for Dean?

Lots.