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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:22 PM
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Dean's Speech tonight on the "Bush Tax"
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 07:36 PM by Capn Sunshine
here's a peek at Gov. Dean's speech tonite. Pay attention other campaigns as it addresses why the "raise taxes on the middle class" meme isn't going to stick.

"President Bush never told you about the 'Bush Tax.' He never mentioned that over the next six years the typical American family will take on $52,000 more in its share of the national debt. That's a part of the 'Bush Tax.' But there's a lot more.

Take a look at your property taxes. They probably went up. In New Hampshire, property taxes went up an average of $270 per family last year. That's part of the 'Bush Tax.' Or look at your state budget. Is it in crisis? In most states, it probably is. That's part of the 'Bush Tax,' too.

Getting fewer services and paying more for things like state college tuitions or special education - that's the consequence of the 'Bush Tax.'

The 'Bush Tax' is huge -- many times greater than most people's refunds. And it'll be here for a long time to come. Just add the 'Bush Tax' to all the other things the President never told us."

To show the impact of the Bush Tax, the campaign will be distribute state-by-state assessments of the Bush Tax for selected states around the country.

To replace the 'Bush Tax,' the governor will call for fundamental tax reform:

"The New Social Contract I am proposing will include fundamental tax reform to ensure that every wealthy American individual and corporation is paying their fair share of taxes - and that the tax burden on working families is reduced.

I want to get rid of the Bush tax program and repeal the "Bush Tax". Let's start over with a real tax reform plan to make the code fairer and simpler, based on a few simple principles:

* We must eliminate abusive tax shelters and crack down on corporate tax evaders.

* Corporations and inherited wealth should pay their fair share of taxes.

* Individuals and small businesses should spend less time dealing with taxes, and the tax code must be simplified."

Get it? We want to SIMPLIFY the tax code, and create a more equitable environment for the middle class. NOT raise taxes.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:23 PM
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1. what channel is going to be covering Dean's speech?
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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:24 PM
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2. It's a good message...
We need to get it out there over the "he's going to raise your taxes" malarky.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:24 PM
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4. and get TV ads also talking about the BUSH TAX
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:24 PM
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3. Bush replaced the "death tax" with the "birth tax".
Kids born today will eventually have to pay off the debt - with interest - that Bush borrowed.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:29 PM
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5. This reminds me of why I send him contributions
He's RIGHT. There are so many hidden increases in user fees, local and state taxes that the small cut that the middle class got is more than gobbled up by the increases on other levels.

Meanwhile, the giant cuts that the richest 1% got can more than make up for the increases they see.

Wanna hear a really regressive fee/tax increase. The fee to file bankruptcy went up by 20%. How's that for "fair"
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:34 PM
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6. exactly.
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:36 PM
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7. I really like this guy
Somebody on dailykos was using a signiture line of

"JOE TRIPPI IS A JEDI"

he might be right.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:37 PM
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8. That's my Gov!
Frame the issue in language and terms voters can understand by cutting through all the BS and laying the cards on the table.

This will sell to voters beautifully!
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:39 PM
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9. How did he balance the budget in Vermont?
His actions will give us more of an idea of what he would do to balance the budget than platitudes about taxes.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:08 PM
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18. He balanced the budget the same way every other governor does
whether they are Democratic or Republican. He did it the same way Clinton balanced the US budget...a combination of revenue increases and spending decreases with a considerable amount of reallocation of funds.

And your point is?

:shrug:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 01:23 AM
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27. Thank you, KK...that's what's needs to be said.
He's not magic. He can't create money. He balanced the budget the only way posible...increase revenus and decrease spending. Too many people seem to be looking for a candidate who can give them everything. Dean, at least, tells it like it is. You have to give up the pittance that this administration tells you you're getting to get REAL support..
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:39 PM
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10. How Will Dean SPECIFICALLY Lower Middle Class Taxes?
You know, a flat tax is simplifying the tax code and might be considered quite regressive...

Further, without cutting Defense/Pentagon spending we CANNOT change the course of our Economy or our Democracy.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:44 PM
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16. Increase their taxes, reduce their share of the tax burden
Tax increases are tax cuts. ;)
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:10 PM
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20. Do you know why Dean doesn't want to cut defense spending?
Because he wants to use a bunch of the budget for renewable energy because he considers that an important part of defense. You aren't for renewable energy?
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:27 PM
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24. Huh
We can't change the way we tax, get real!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:40 PM
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11. Where is the speech? I don't see it anywhere on the site.
Where is he giving it?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:40 PM
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so far so good
Dean can't win saying he wants to raise taxes on everyone.

But if he keeps saying he wants to lower the "tax burden on working families," he has a chance.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:40 PM
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12. The Bush* Tax ~ I love it
Dean is always firstest with the mostest. Every Democrat should be hammering this subject every time they open their mouth.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:42 PM
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13. Ooh Ooh Ooh!
To show the impact of the Bush Tax, the campaign will be distribute state-by-state assessments of the Bush Tax for selected states around the country.


I asked them for this on the official blog!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:43 PM
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14. see? maybe it was you that sparked that!
;-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:04 PM
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17. "Ask and ye shall get"
Wunderbar!
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:29 PM
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25. Killbotfactory
Glad your on our side. Keep up the good work.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:43 PM
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15. are you sure this is tonight?
i think it's tomorrow night...
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:08 PM
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19. same here too
*pouts*
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:13 PM
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21. newsguy you sexy thing you!
What was that big surprise you hinted at before you disappeared? The Unions Endorsing or Gore? Or has it not happened? Do tell, hot stuff! ;)
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:24 PM
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22. hey you!!
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 08:24 PM by newsguyatl
i forgot your screen name and just NOW put it with your picture! i keep thinking that karaokekarlton is a guy... lol


umm, yeh, the "big surprise" was gore... so it happened a little late... heh

i ate crow on a post here the day it happened... luckily i DID tell eloriel way back then, so she has my back (err, credibility)...
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:30 PM
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26. cool
did you think some strange dude named Karlton was flirting with you? hehehe

I'm too darn cute to be a Karlton! ;)
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:25 PM
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23. Awesome! "Bush tax"! And *very* well explained! (n/t)
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 01:33 AM
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28. To the point, and effective.
I hope he includes information on cuts in veterans benefits and combat pay in the state-by-state assessment. There are likely a number of moderate republican military families this would hit home with.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 01:51 AM
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29. same here too
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