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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:26 AM
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A Modest Argument for Negativity and Discord: Now is the Right Time
Fellow DUers, I write here an apologetic for some degree on negativity on this board and in the campaigns in general. Why negativity? Because it is the only tactic that both draws attention to the message and clearly differentiates one candidate from another. NOTHING ELSE WORKS. It is, indeed, the common wisdom of campaign practitioners and the effective result of numerous political campaigns, that nothing but NEGATIVE MESSAGES, regarding a dominant candidacy, can change the dynamic of a political campaign.

This was the rule that Howard Dean hewed to when he was a cipher on the political scene and launched his comprehensive assault against the Bush administration as the personification of everything duplicitous and evil and John Kerry as the arch “Washington Insider” and Bush-Lite. This onslaught of “negativity” and “anger” brought Dean media attention and a windfall of activist support and financing – and then more media attention.

Similarly, the perception of inevitability and the dominant level positive public support for Dean’s candidacy will not be changed without contrary negative information being put forcefully before the public.

Academic research is more nuanced regarding the effects of Negative Political Advertising. I include some citations below:

Gina Garramone et. al. in "Effects of Negative Political Advertising on the Political Process," (Journal of Broadcasting & Electronic Media,1990 ) asserted that negative ads are very effective when differentiating or discriminating candidates' images, and they pointed out that:

“By providing concrete substantive information, a negative political ad may allow voters to distinguish candidate qualities, positions, and performance more readily than would other types of political information that provide less explicit information. Also, the greater perceived differences between candidates may lead voters to greater attitude polarization regarding the candidates. That is, by discerning clear differences between candidates, voters may be more likely to strongly like one candidate while strongly disliking the other”

Garramone suggests that perceived truthfulness of negative political advertising may determine its impact.

More recently, James King and Jason McConnell in “The Effect of Negative Campaign Advertising on Vote Choice: The Mediating Influence of Gender” (Social Science Quarterly, Volume 84 Issue 4 Page 843 - December 2003) found that women, not men, tended to turn against the sponsor of negative political ads over time.

Results show that there is a “parabolic effect of repeated exposure to negative advertisements that is gender specific. Among women, the sponsor initially benefits from an enhanced image but suffers a decline in image when the voters become overexposed to negative advertisements.” Thus, negative ads tend to boomerang on the sponsor, but only when it is over-done.

My point here is to encourage all my fellow democrats to accept the difficult reality that each of the lagging candidates and their supporters must articulate both a positive message and a solid critique of Howard Dean if they are to have any hope of the nomination. Even more important, we must expect the campaigns to launch whatever attacks they can NOW while there is still a small chance of getting media attention (and we know the media will only respond to the negative). This may not affect Dean’s numbers at this point in time, but it is really now or never.

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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:47 AM
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1. The first primary vote has not even been cast...
Where did you buy your crystal ball?
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amyforclark04 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:41 AM
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2. ??
I need a place to test my post. I'm new here (Help)
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:45 AM
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3. Your post seemed to work.
And Welcome to DU amyforclark04
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:46 AM
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4. Solid critiques of Howard Dean should NOT include
trying to use the military status of his dead brother as a campaign issue. Should I start some threads asking about Kerry's cancer? After all it was an issue used against Paul Tsongas.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:23 AM
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5. What campaign did that???
That was an article in a newspaper. No campaign has said a word on it. Why do you jump to the conclusion that every problem Dean has comes from somebody's campaign? Frankly, this smearing of campaigns or the Democratic Party as Dean's first response is the main reason he's near the bottom of my list. He tried to paint his brother as a man who died while a POW/MIA, captured as a result of military service in Vietnam. It's his error to clean up.


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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 10:23 AM
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6. I really honor the thoughtfull efforts of DU Partisans to Persuade
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:59 PM
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7. Looks Like Most People are following your advice here
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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:00 PM
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17. Really? I think it just that the facts don't support Dean.

Don't you notice that post that are negative to Dean are "locked"
if the poster dares to express any strong opinion.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:02 PM
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8. Don't shoot at him unless you can take him out completely
If you can replace him with what you think is a better candidate, go for it.

But if all you can do is wound him and make Bush's job easier, then you would be better off keeping a lid on it.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:04 PM
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9. I have switched to absurdist, satirical mode....
As the only appropriate response to some of the more hysterical doomsday scenarios being fronted hourly by Clark supporters.

It has gotten beyond ludicrous, and is convincing nobody.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:33 PM
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11. With the nomination of Dean, the dark lord Satan will rise from Hell...
and consume us all!
Vote Clark! ;-)
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:35 PM
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24. someone should warn buffy and spike
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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:05 PM
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10. Let me get this straight: 'Everyone Attack Dean right now!' is that it?
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 04:05 PM by Patriot_Spear
I think yours is the worst advice that could possibly be give.

But I think I remember seeing it once before in 'Pyrhhus book of Military Strategies'.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:29 PM
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14. Please Review Record of NEGATIVITY and You find the WINNER IS HOWARD DEAN


I personally believe that the 2004 election is so critical the party should have officially settled on 2 or at the most 3 leaders and restricted primary support debates etc to these. Defamatory slams
should have been totaly restricted and there should be substantive sober debate.

Unfortunatel that is not what happenned and the horrible dynamics of political campaigning and its fundamentals hold sway.

I believe myself, perhaps wrongly, to be one of the more carefull and
thoughtfull poster on this board, but I call on all to be respectfull
of Dean supporters, Clark supporters, Kerry supporters, Gephart supporters, Shapton supporters, Kucinich supporters, etc who feel
strongly about their candidate and are genuinely critical of the candidacy of some others.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:07 PM
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19. Dean favors ALL 4 HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 04:08 PM by mouse7
Howard Dean can't settle for 1, or 2. or 3 horsemen of the Apocalypse. He demands all 4... at the same time!!!!

Vote Clark!
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:39 PM
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25. well it looks like we beter do it now, before it's too late
we have just 60 days to turn this around.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:53 PM
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28. Takes many day of battle to kill a Horseman of the Apocalypse
You're right! You better get started immediately!
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:34 PM
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12. Karl Rove is taking note of these negative attacks, IMHO. (n/t)
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:00 PM
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18. Well good for him...
Your point is?
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:44 PM
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26. i wish i could get ahold of rove and make him cough up what he
knows cause dollars to donuts, he knows more than we do about dean.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:56 PM
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29. Vote for Clark! He gotten the Romulan Cloaking Device!
Karl Rove cannot find anything about Wesley Clark.... right.... right...
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:36 PM
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13. This is why Kerry's campaign is now third tier.
This is also why Lieberman went from the frontrunner early on to nowhere. Campaigns must sell more than negativity. In addition, one cannot make the election about one's opponent. This was the fatal error of Davis in California.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:32 PM
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15. Here's my College-Educated mature response...
Poop!

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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:48 PM
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27. yeah yeah...we know. Please Offer Only Praise...........
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:50 PM
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16. A Very Swiftian Prosposal Indeed (nt)
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:26 PM
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20. then it must be the right time to go down memory lane
with this little thread of negativity and discord.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Dean Fans, Look Here !!!! Dean Can't Win!!! Here's Why!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5697&forum=DCForumID22
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:32 PM
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21. Howard Dean eats live babies
Booooo!! Hissss!!

Dean shouldn't eat live babies. That's wrong!

Vote Clark! Wesley Clark doesn't eat live babies like Howard Dean does!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:34 PM
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23. ah yes I remember well
Many joined then and shortly after all withthe same mantra. Coincidence?? I think not. ;-)

Julie
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 05:05 PM
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30. now more than ever
posters log on and are disappointed because funnily enough:

"I look at this site and it is just a Dean incest fest."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5697&forum=DCForumID22#37

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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:32 PM
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22. pffffftttttt......
:eyes:
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