More proof that the media are STILL biased against Dean.

[stickdog]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040130/D80D5L8O0.html

Dean Sees Drop in Campaign Fund Raising

WASHINGTON (AP) - Howard Dean's record campaign fund has dropped from $41 million to around $5 million, forcing him to cut costs as new front-runner John Kerry's fund-raising fortunes rise.


Dean has raised more money over the internet since Kerry won in Iowa than Kerry has.

Dea has raised more money over the internet since Kerry won in New Hampshire than Kerry has.

Isn't this the real story here? Is it really newsworthy that the winner's fundraising has picked up slightly and the loser's has slowed down slightly? Isn't the unbelievable fundraising success that Dean is STILL enjoying far more newsworthy that his supposed financial woes?

I mean, how much money does John Kerry have in the bank after he's repaid all of his outstanding debts? Can anyone here legitimately argue that the front-runner gets all the media heat anymore?

Dean was assassinated by the media when he was the front-runner. Now the media are giving Kerry the same free ride that they've given Bush since 9/11.

Why? If Rove wants Dean and is afraid of Kerry, then why did Rove let Republican PACs run anti-Dean ads in Iowa? Why aren't any of Rove's typical media mouthpieces talking about what a weak candidate John Kerry is?

[Clark Can WIN]

1. The news media is biased against

Democrats. We're all in the same boat full of buckshot.

[stickdog]

7. Against SOME Democrats.

Kerry & Edwards are doing just fine, thank you.

[blm]

13. Media declaring Kerry's candidacy dead for months dried up his fundraising

dollars for most of last year.

You didn't care. NOW you want to note the fact that Kerry had to WIN two primaries before he got any coverage?

Dean and Clark campaign coffers benefitted for months from the media perception that Kerry and Edwards candidacies were dead and irrelevant.

Why pretend otherwise?

[stickdog]

16. Nobody is pretending otherwise. Less than 5% of the population was

paying attention back then.

But since Al Gore's endorsement made Howard Dean's name a household word, the media has been unrelentingly pro-Kerry and anti-Dean 24/7.

When given multiple choices, it's far easier to vote against rather than for. That's why most successful politicians never really say anything. The idea that lots of negative publicity HELPS a candidate is a bunch of bs.

[fujiyama]

50. The media works...

in cycles...It's finding a way to trash any democrat that wins.

They first said Kerry is the frontrunner. Dean came along, got a big lead, and Kerry's campaign was dead. Then they built Dean up - lots of dough, endorsement after endorsement, and then...Kerry comes out of nowhere and matches Gephardt. I recall no extra positive coverage for Kerry until after he won IA, at which point they played that Dean scream repeatedly.

They shall now build Kerry up and will likewise trash him as well.

It's more dramatic for them...makes for more entertainment...

The only one who really had a crappy time with the media was Clark who was treated with as much coverage as Lieberman, and taken even less seriously.

Ultimately like '00 they will give Bush a free pass.

[DemBones DemBones]

17. You got it! As long as Dean was being built up by the media,

his supporters thought the media was fair. He loses Iowa and NH and they're complaining that the media are picking on him to report it, were mean to show his speech and scream over and over. The fact is that they showed all the speeches after Iowa many times. I don't know how many times they showed Dean's speech by itself on news shows but it was newsworthy.

It's also newsworthy that his campaign essentially went broke and he asked 500 staffers to work two weeks without pay so he wouldn't have to take his campaign into debt. That shows how little he cares about his people, how little he understands about living without a trust fund of daddy's money backing you up. I'm angry that he treated his employees this way. He should have immediately taken out a loan in order to meet payroll.

The media have been pretty damn gentle on Dean about this financial fiasco. The man has stood up many times and bragged about balancing budgets and being a great manager.

What kind of great manager doesn't keep his eye on the books?

[stickdog]

25. Which candidate has more money than Dean?

Which candidates have managed their money better?

He loses Iowa and NH and they're complaining that the media are picking on him to report it, were mean to show his speech and scream over and over. The fact is that they showed all the speeches after Iowa many times. I don't know how many times they showed Dean's speech by itself on news shows but it was newsworthy.

Are you actually defending the way the media Wellstoned Dean's pumping up his supporters?

http://news.google.com/news?num=50&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Howard+Dean%22+%28scream+OR+screech+OR+yell+OR+unpresidential+OR+rant%29


It's also newsworthy that his campaign essentially went broke and he asked 500 staffers to work two weeks without pay so he wouldn't have to take his campaign into debt. That shows how little he cares about his people, how little he understands about living without a trust fund of daddy's money backing you up. I'm angry that he treated his employees this way. He should have immediately taken out a loan in order to meet payroll.


You can't be serious. Have you ever worked for a campaign before?


The media have been pretty damn gentle on Dean about this financial fiasco. The man has stood up many times and bragged about balancing budgets and being a great manager.


Which candidate has more money than Dean? Which candidate has managed his money better than Dean?

[PassingFair]

35. This is the REAL speech

And now Diane Sawyer has admitted that America has been duped, by EVERYONE that showed that particular video, KNOWING that the crowd noise had been filtered out.
She has issued a televised MEA CULPA. Check it out:

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_2004vote_012904dean.html

Please take the time to download the footage. You won't believe what your hearing.

[PassingFair]

37. Dean was, and still is...

receiving his money mainly in small donations from tiny people like me, and we're still giving....

[sandnsea]

2. $1.8 million?

I didn't think Dean had raised that much online since Iowa or NH. Maybe I'm wrong.

And once again, blowing through $35 million is a story. Another one.

[mzmolly]

8. Another story is that John Kerry could afford to *buy* himself the

Presidency. Something about that just doesn't smack of Democracy.

Kerry would be finished had he not married an heiress.

[DemBones DemBones]

19. Kerry hasn't asked his staffers to work without pay

so that his campaign can avoid debt. Dean has.

Kerry took the sensible step of mortgaging his house to raise funds for the campaign. Dean should have obtained a loan when he discovered his $41 million in campaign funds had been blown already with months to go, instead of financing off the workers' backs..

[CWebster]

57. But then, Dean doesn't expect his supporters to support his friends

who happen to be other contenders with many views diametrically opposing what the man with the healing hands is supposed to be all about.

The same candidate who, knowingly or not, hires obvious cheerleaders from competing campaigns to fill his staff positions.

[sandnsea]

22. $35 million???

If that didn't buy a win in Iowa or NH, I don't think elections can be bought.

[stickdog]

27. Where are you getting these figures?

No amount of money is enough to combat an orchestrated media assassination.

[sandnsea]

36. Talk to Clark

It was a Chris Lehane media assassination.

[mikehiggins]

43. Cute

Clark and Lehane are the masterminds behind the media claim that the Dean campaign had burned through $35 million of the monies collected to date?

Nobody else noticed?

Trippi leaves and Gore's guy moves in and no one would suspect something was amiss.

One might even think you were trying to drive a wedge between the Dean and Clark supporters.

[sandnsea]

47. The Dec/Jan media assassination

Sorry, Clark is Clinton's boy and everybody knows it. There were plenty of articles right here on DU about Chris Lehane and his attacks on Dean. The Affirmative Action attack is coming from Clark and a Clark endorser, a Clinton person, is backing him up. It's pretty obvious.

And don't think I haven't forgotten how the Dean camp went after Clark when they thought he was the threat. Funny how the Clark people have forgotten. They aren't your friends.

[stickdog]

11. You are wrong.

How much money has Kerry blown through?

[sandnsea]

21. $1.8 million?

Online since Iowa. That's all I'm referring to. I didn't think Dean had raised that much online. Just asking.

[stickdog]

28. Well, he has.

And that's the REAL story here. Wouldn't you agree?

[sandnsea]

38. I haven't seen it

Last I heard it was $600,000. And no, the story here is what the hell happened to all that money and how can we trust a guy who blew through that much, and apparently didn't know it, to be careful with our money.

[stickdog]

42. Kerry had to "borrow & spend" just like Bush government he's enabled.

In direct contrast, Dean's campaign & Vermont governments have always been in the black.

Trippi was in charge of the money. He spent too much on shitty ads and got his ass canned.

What's Kerry's excuse for blowing every cent he's raised in this campaign plus millions more?

[sandnsea]

49. Dean is responsible

He's responsible for where his money went and being broke now. He let it all go to his head and let his ego get blown all out of proportion. He didn't run a tight ship.

And how do you know Kerry NEEDED the money when he took out that loan? Because he sure has managed to stay right on top of ad money and move forward quickly at every turn. If he really NEEDED that money, he wouldn't have any right now either. It isn't coming in that fast. Ever heard of playing possum??

[stickdog]

59. When the fourth quarter fund-raising numbers are released

what will your argument be then?

[displacedtexan]

3. I mean, how much money does John Kerry have in the bank ?

"I mean, how much money does John Kerry have in the bank after he's repaid all of his outstanding debts? Can anyone here legitimately argue that the front-runner gets all the media heat anymore?"

Ans: about $160 million (personal wealth)
Plus what's in the
Joint checking account

Rove thought Dean would win. That's why he ran those anti-Dean ads. Even Rove underestimated the Kerry-on-the-ground organization.

If Dean needs money, he should float himself a loan from his Dean/Witter family assets.

[stickdog]

6. Dean isn't related to Dean "Witter".

The rest of your post is equally factual and relevant.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. Dean was "Wall Street"

so it's extended "family".

[DemBones DemBones]

20. Didn't his dad and/or Howard himself work for Dean Witter?

I believe they did and that led people to think there was a relationship there, just as anyone might reasonably think , if you worked for, say, stickdog & son, that you were related to the boss.

Do you have facts to refute the rest of the post? We can't judge relevance unless you do.

[stickdog]

29. I need to supply FACTS so "we" can judge if a baseless smear is

baseless?

[PassingFair]

39. His father's company was

BOUGHT by Dean Witter

[mandyky]

10. Nice try

Dean Witter has nothing to do with Howard Dean III or his father, try a google search - it's well documented.

[maddezmom]

15. Smith-Barney? n/t

[Eloriel]

33. The Kerry-on-the-ground organization?

You mean the push pollers? And the Vilsack-on-the-ground machine?

I see.

[Cha]

4. Of course, the media is still

gunning for Dean! If Dean gets the nomination he'll win against bush and they can't have that now can they?

[pacifictiger]

5. the media union

just endorsed kerry.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

9. the blue collar guys

not the editors. :eyes:

[stickdog]

14. Where are all the articles attacking ANY front-runner that were promised

when Dean supporters were howling about the way the media was crucifying Dean?

Every word out of Dean's mouth was scrutinized, taken out of context, blown up and made into a false issue. Things Dean said four years ago and eight years ago were fair game for huge national news stories. A federally regulated power plant was fair game. Dean was castigated for telling the truth about Hussein's threat to the United States. Dean was hung in effigy for having the gall to suggest that US executions be preceded by fair trials. Dean was painted as a madman for saying that Bush's stonewalling of the 9/11 Commission raises legitimate suspicions. And the list goes on and on and on and on.

Meanwhile, I haven't seen a single major media news story taking Kerry to the task for anything, despite literally reams of opposition research to choose from.

Why?

I mean, any reporters could make an unassailable "two-faced" Kerry article just by using Kerry's quotes about the Iraq War over the last two months. Why hasn't any AP analyst written that article? How about an article about Kerry's first marriage and his unsuccessful efforts to have in annulled? How about an article about Kerry's expensive toys, his vast wealth and the relative wealth of his supporters?

How about a major news service expose about Kerry's facial treatments?

How about a major news service expose about Kerry lying about being Irish?

How about a major news service expose about the dirty tricks Kerry has pulled in other campaigns?

How about a major news service expose about Kerry's PNAC connections?

How about a major news service expose about the major investigations that Kerry successfully buried?

How about a major news service expose about Kerry's lack of legislative acumen and success?

How about a major news service expose about all the negative attacks Kerry has made on Dean while pretending that he's been running a "positive" campaign?

How about a major news service expose about all of the major campaign themes and even catch phrases that Kerry has cribbed from Dean?

Where are all the media attacks that Dean supporters were assured were just part and parcel of being the anointed front-runner?

[sandnsea]

23. Are you paying attention?

First, how would you know to post any of those questions if you hadn't seen it in the media somewhere???

Kerry's being hit from all sides. I think you don't hear it for the same reason you never heard Kerry go after Bush. Just didn't pay attention. Kerry is under fire from the Clinton's, the anti-Clinton's and the RNC. If you're missing it, I don't know what to say. :shrug:

[stickdog]

24. I know this stuff because I've seen the opposition research.

Show me the major news service anti-Kerry articles from the last two weeks.

[sandnsea]

55. Go out on the main thread

You probably posted half of them. They're there. Kerry didn't vote on weapons, Kerry didn't show up to vote, Kerry didn't do anything in Congress, botox, Kerry voted against a farm bill, Kerry wants to destroy education, Kerry is frankenstein. It's all there, plus tons more from the last 6 months. Kerry has not gotten a pass in this election at all.

[AnnitaR]

18. Try being Clark....

he gets NO media attention!

Sorry, can't feel bad for Dean now... he got all of it in the beginning and even now even though it's negative!

Clark has by far been the worst victim of media bias. Media ignore!

[stickdog]

32. More people vote AGAINST than vote FOR. Thus, being ignored by the media

is far better than being CRUCIFIED.

But I do agree that the media have been largely anti-Clark since Kerry won Iowa.

[ibegurpard]

52. Clark had a nice little media blitz going for a while

But they are writing his epitaph now... a bit prematurely, I think. He's positioned pretty well in some states coming up.

[RetroLounge]

26. Yes, this is the Real Story

Dean has raised more money over the internet since Kerry won in Iowa than Kerry has.

Dean has raised more money over the internet since Kerry won in New Hampshire than Kerry has.

[Zomby Woof]

30. Dean could raise 5 million a day for a month

But it won't buy him votes if he is not the people's choice.

It's not newsworthy.

[stickdog]

34. How many millions would Dennis Kucinich need to get

TWO percent of the vote?

[Zomby Woof]

40. that is off topic

The topic is that Dean has raised a boatload of money since Iowa and NH, and that it may prove irrelevant in the long run.

This is not a thread about DK.

[stickdog]

44. The topic is the fact that the media is biased against Dean.

The topic is the fact that the REAL story here is that Dean is VERY SURPRISINGLY still out fund-raising Kerry, but the AP is spinning this SURPRISING pro-Dean information into a "Dean's campaign is falling apart" story.

Your original post did not address this and therefore was off-topic.

[Zomby Woof]

48. so if you replied to an off-topic reply

Doesn't that mean you were off-topic, twice-removed? :crazy:

It's just amusement to me anyway, because Dean is toast and I love all the wailing and the gnashing of teeth - ESPECIALLY of the "blame the media!" variety. :-)

[lurk_no_more]

31. And you thought the media was going to be what exactly?

Silly Wabbit!


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[mikehiggins]

41. More proof that the sun rises in the East?

Of course the press screws with Dean. They screw with Clark. They screw with Edwards.

Right now they've decided Kerry is the candidate. Used to be Clark. Used to be Dean. Coulda been Edwards.

Who knows why.

All I suggest is we keep all our campaigns going as long as we can with a mind to get to the convention and see what happens. Pick up as many delegates as we can along the way and keep the current media favorite from getting a majority of elected delegates before the convention (only elected delegates matter--a superdelegate's promise is worth the paper its written on, and usually not even that).

Normally I wouldn't suggest something like this but I truly believe that selecting Kerry as our nominee will prove as serious a blunder as any this party has made since Ike decided to run as a Republican.

[retyred]

45. Does this meme ever change?

It's like a soap opera, you leave for a few days, come back, and nothing has changed, you can pick up right where you left off.

In reality, all I can say about this is:






retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
So I read this book

[stickdog]

46. The truth is a powerful meme, and it's relatively constant. (nt)

[ibegurpard]

51. I really love how everyone on this board is so quick to agree

that the media is biased but the second ANYONE suggests that there is bias against a candidate they support, it is roundly pooh-poohed. Very amusing.

On edit: The media admitting they manipulated and promoted "the scream" footage was certainly telling. Oh, and Kucinich supporters? Please tell me IN THIS THREAD with a straight face that the media isn't biased against your guy.

[George_Bonanza]

53. Dean's a lightning rod

You cannot run a campaign with the angry "damn everything!" attitude without inviting criticism and mocking scorn. The media inevitably took the "Well if he's so angry at others, let's try to make him look hypocritical!" angle, and came up with those Vermont nuclear Powerplant security stories, etc. With Kerry, a much more subdued candidate, the same angle will not work. Instead, I'm going to bet they're going to play up his supposed elitism and hypocrisy. Already, the much-loved Washington Post article about his links to special interests (so heavily in circulation amongst Dean circles) has been written.

[ibegurpard]

56. Yeah

And if so many Kerry supporters hadn't been so eager to savage Dean, many of us would probably be a lot more willing to defend him against them instead of gleefully throwing them in others' faces. This isn't an accusation against you personally, because I don't recall seeing you around here much before so I really have no idea what you've been like.

[stickdog]

60. One article in the WP. That's it. And it trashes all the other Dems, too.

Dean is a middle of the road Dem. He's only a "lightning rod" because the media decided to make him one.

[George_Bonanza]

61. One article in the WP that got played on CNN

You happy now? CNN had a little bit where they contrasted Kerry's message with the WP article.

[KFC]

54. Uh... Dropping 36 mil so quickly without a win IS the story

But I'm sure the media is to blame.

[joshcryer]

58. The story isn't "drop in funds" it's "drop in fund raising."

Yes, you damn straight the media is blame for such a pathetic slight. The Dean campaign so far is not having problems raising money. When this topic was posted, the Dean campaign had just amassed 600k...