Wow, look at all the attacks on Kerry

[ShaneGR]

I'm an Edwards guy now, but I'm not interested in trying to tear down the potential nominee. I mean, the GOP should just take vacaton, they've got us working for them!

[NV1962]

1. "Bring It On" - n/t

[quinnox]

2. I suspect some of

the attacks are coming from the GOP, or those sympathetic to their viewpoint (free republic, anyone?). There has been an influx of new members, who all seem to have a great dislike of Kerry.

[snippy]

31. I am aware of one freeper who boasts of having hundreds of posts here.

That poster used to attack Clark here but now also is attacking Kerry. Duplicitous and mendacious posts here are very typical of republicans. Like Bush himself, most Bush supporters lack any principles, integrity or honor.

[SeanQuinn]

3. Also an Edwards supporter...

People need to remember we're trying to beat Bush.

[slinkerwink]

4. Dean used to be the potential nominee, and they tore him down

so, why can't we do the same to Kerry?

[Old and In the Way]

9. I never smeared Dean, heck I donated to his campaign last year.

I'd never jump on any candidate smear thread, but I will defend my choice.

I proudly admit to being a Kerry supporter, but I'll happily get behind anyone that is our eventual nominee.....and support him with a clear conscience.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

30. Well slinkerwink

Not all of us Kerry supporters tore down Dean when he was the frontrunner. This eye for an eye mentality between some of the Dean and Kerry supporters has me bothered a great deal.

[windansea]

5. same thing when Dean was frontrunner

:shrug:

[frustrated_lefty]

6. We're always in a circular firing squad

but his teflon hair and botox-desensitized face can handle it, right? He did demand "bring it on." Well, it's being brought on. You can "cry in your teacups" or deal with it.

[EXE619K]

7. Please...not to think of them as "attaques"!

Just...preparing our "great leader" for future woes down the road.

Polish, polish...Shape, shape.

[jpgpenn]

8. "attacks"?

is that what you call others getting out facts about Kerry? His smears against other Dems, his Lobbyist money,His going along with what * bush wanted with war.

My suggestion would be to start reading those "attacks" and understand they all happened!

[Democat]

28. The point is that you are helping Bush too

Think back to 2000 and Nader.

Everything you said in your post could be exact quotes from Ralph Nader in 2000.

Remember who Nader helped elect? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't a Democrat and it wasn't just someone who "went along" with Bush.

If you don't mind helping Bush as much as Nader in 2000, then keep on with your right wing talking points.

[girl gone mad]

10. Don't be ridiculous.

It isn't time to rally behind the one true leader just yet.

I'm not Republican or a Freeper, and I'll go on pointing out Kerry's deficiencies.

You call them attacks, I call it holding him accountable for his record.

You use the same excuses the GOP uses to squelch any and all criticism of Bush. That doesn't work with us libs, we aren't sheep.

[IndianaGreen]

15. "I call it holding him accountable for his record"

What record? Kerry's vote for war was not a vote for war, even if it was a vote for war and everyone knew it was a vote for war, because Kerry said that his vote for war was actually a vote for peace.

Did you get that?

:evilgrin:

[girl gone mad]

18. How silly of me..

Now I see the light. :)

[IndianaGreen]

26. I knew you would. Now is time for you to take the ABB loyalty oath...

The only people exempt from the ABB loyalty oath are Zell Miller and DLC CEO Al From.

[sandnsea]

11. We're the frontrunner!!!

Wohooo!!!

[_Jumper_]

12. Will Kerry denounce this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=237650

[Feanorcurufinwe]

16. Will Edwards attack Hollings about it?

Otherwise, I can't imagine Kerry reminding anyone about it.

[_Jumper_]

19. Will Kerry denounce his ethnic joke?

Hollings made the comment in his presence and he continued that line. If he seeks to be a national candidate he should denounce it. He's not getting my vote until he explains his comment.

[windansea]

22. will Kerry apologize for dissing white guys??

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=240263&mesg_id=240263

heh heh

[Feanorcurufinwe]

13. It's no big deal

Most of the criticisms leveled at Kerry in this forum are not ones that Bush could use in the GE, anyway.

[jjmalonejr]

14. Bring it on!

[jpgpenn]

17. you shall get your wish!

[Feanorcurufinwe]

20. We can't beat Bush by avoiding the fight.

[Lexingtonian]

21. Yeah, quite a barrage

It's kind of interesting to watch. A lot of them are reasonably fair, some are wierd. It's the presumptuous Republican talking point ones that annoy me- the "Massachusetts liberal" deal and BotoxNongate, for example.

And yes, there are bunch of new posters about who aren't up on the lingo of the locale playing dreary games with GD2004. They seem a lot like our pals of about two weeks ago- harmless but a waste of time.

[NashVegas]

23. *coughs*

"I'm not interested in trying to tear down the potential nominee."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=222687#222729
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=222352#222719
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=221401
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=220428
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=212186
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=210423
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=210571
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=109367

I'm guessing your statement only applies if the potential nominee is Kerry or Edwards?

[windansea]

24. LOL

zinnnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[krkaufman]

25. John Kerry was a member of NAMBLA from 1993-1997...

... would be a smear, a baseless claim intended to harm his image and popular support. Something like taking a simple comparison between military ranks and twisting it into a "dismissive" statement that was disrespectful of lower-ranking soldiers. (Need the video?)

Pointing out that Senator Kerry's vote on IWR is in direct opposition to the empathy for soldiers that he claims on his website and in his speeches is comparing his actions to his words.

Ditto for highlighting the difference between his claims of cleanliness relative to campaign financing and the source of his money.

[Democat]

27. Democrats are being incredibly stupid attacking each other so harshly

The media is full of anti-Kerry stories every day, and they all start with "Dean says..." or "Clark says...".

Why give the right wing such a head start on destroying our own candidates?

Kerry is not my first choice, but I am saddened by how idiotic our candidates are being and how they are playing right into the hands of the right wing.

[PurityOfEssence]

29. It's human nature, and it's the best thing about primaries

No, that doesn't mean I like the vicious slagging that often goes on, but it serves as a crucible in which the candidates get to prove their mettle. (Yes, that was a truly dreadful mixed-metapun)

The coronations like '84 don't do a damned bit of good to determine who can take it, dish it out and ultimately appeal the most. Primary seasons are like shakedown cruises for ships or out-of-town openings for shows, and they are very helpful. Yes, they can be unfair and nasty, but although lots of that's just plain mean, lots of it truly comes from the heart and needs to be heard.

One doesn't often learn much about a person by how he/she behaves at a party; one learns on the field of adversity.

Chin up, everybody.

[Rainbows]

32. A lot of people here ...

Were and are looking for progressive change in the democratic party. I am a DK supporter but was thrilled to see the populist movement of the outsider Dean take hold, and reject the inner party power brokers that have given Bush his tax cuts, wars, and deprivation of liberties all the help they needed to pass with little debate. A democratic party that allowed no investigation of 911 when it happened, but was happy to pass the Patriot Act, etc.

Then when a populist movement forms that rejects the beltway ballet, it is squashed by establishment power brokers who place their already rejected candidate in the driver seat through power plays and press manipulation, one would have to expect that populists would expose not necessarily attack Mr Kerry's hypocrisy and status quo political record.

Anyone who wants needed change knows the power has just been stripped from the the people, and are bound to point that out. If you call that attacking or doing the repubs work for them, so be it.