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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:03 AM
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Time to Grow Up and Join the Democratic Party (A slogan idea?) (A theme?)
Time to stop living in a land of make believe created by some right wing media clowns with their infantile arguments and their childish lies.

Time to leave behind the crackpot economics, and the tin pot foreign and domestic policies of the movement that calls itself conservative.

Time to grow up and join the Democratic Party.

This theme could be expanded upon.

What do you think?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 06:54 AM
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1. No, that sounds like an awful idea.
It sounds like exactly the kind of condescending rubbish that makes people not want to vote for Democrats.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:45 AM
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2. We've got a better product,
Why not say so?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:41 AM
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11. As a candidate, if you go 'round telling the voters...
...that they need to "grow up," you're not going to get very far.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:01 PM
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12. Well of course the candidate would only say it very mildly while floating
above it all.

We are the ones to tell the voters (the repubs, the cons) to grow up and stop acting so stupid.

It's time to stop being so intimidated.

They've no problem with their "Stuck on Stupid" slogan.

It's time we tell them to GROW UP!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:24 PM
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14. very condenscending... (not a good idea to speak down to people)
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:15 AM
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20. What do commercials say about those who use brand X?
Are they not condescending to them?
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:47 AM
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3. Actually, I like it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:48 AM
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4. Sorry, but that's not a good idea
Given how complicit the Democratic leaders have been in such matters from NAFTA to yesterday's renewal of the Patriot Act. Better idea is to have our so called leaders stop dancing to the corporate tune, but we've seen how quickly that's going to happen:eyes:
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:03 AM
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7. That's neither an election winning slogan nor theme,
Though it is true, and is something that needs to be worked on.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:08 AM
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22. Sounds like a theme for some other party entirely n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:50 AM
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5. Maybe slightly re-worded..."Time to be politically "alive"...be Dems
again. If not NOW, WHEN?"
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:06 AM
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8. Too complicated,
First you'd need to explain what it means to be "politically alive".
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:56 AM
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6. I'm going to do a copycat post
Time to grow up and join the Republican Party!

Time to stop living in a land of make believe created by some right wing media clowns with their infantile arguments and their childish lies. Fight this from the inside!

Time to leave behind the crackpot economics, and the tin pot foreign and domestic policies of the movement that calls itself conservative. The GOP offers many chances for liberals and progressive to counteract the conservative wing of the party.

Time to grow up and join the combine. You really are either with us, or against us. Why rage against the machine, when you can operate the machine.

This theme could be expanded upon. If we all join the GOP, we could make an impact on the party platform. We could cause the right wing movement to fail from the inside! We could use the combine, the machine to do our bidding!

What do you think?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:09 AM
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9. Too convoluted.
I don't think we want to encourage people to join the Republican Party, no matter what the reasons.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:28 AM
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10. I actually had considered this, as I am very different then the Dems
locally.

Most local political races are determined in the gop primary.

The local GOP is torn between conservative - libertarians and moderates (liberals - pro choice). The Dem's in my area are all conservative dems.

I can find more people open to mmp and norml in the local GOP than I can in the Dem party. Locally, half of the local gop supports medical marijuana. No local Dem is on board.

The two parties are very philosophically similar, there would be no reason NOT to join the GOP.

If your OP was directed to third party supporters, why not join the GOP? A Green will be just as isolated at a GOP county meeting as he would be at a Dem county meeting.

ps- did you like my use of "combine"?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:20 PM
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13. I'd say the party to join to fight to change from within is the Democratic
Party.

It's sad that so many Democratic Party candidates in the Red States feel they must hug the cons on the social issues in order to get into office to work on the bread and butter issues.

However there is no denying which party is more rabid about prosecuting the war on drugs, is there?

There are many right wing radio clowns who call themselves "libertarian" in order to position themselves to be even better shills for the GOP.

Their goal is to make you think it's OK to vote repub, even though you gag on their social agenda.

They never mention which party is farther from and actively fighting that nauseating social agenda.

I'm sure at the local repub meetings you might find a few who call themselves "libertarians" and "independents" who fail to see how they've been conned by the movement that calls itself conservative into voting repub.

Somehow they've been mislead into believing that freeing those at the top from taxation and regulation will somehow result in freeing everyone from those things, rather than resulting in the greater burden of taxation and regulation being shifted onto those at the bottom.

It's about who is to be above the law (The most wealthy and powerful)
and who is to be crushed by the law (The riff raff).

Haven't you noticed how the push for ever harsher punishments (Unless it's a punishment against them) is a constant theme of the cons?

Ever notice how in their world the police the prisons and their punishments never go too far (No matter how criminal the action, unless of course it's some action against them)?

I can understand attending their meetings, registering as one of them, and voting in their primaries as a way of shifting their party away from the right wing nuts, however you can also do this in our party.

You should always be educating on the issues wherever you are.

You should never vote for the republican party, or any third parties in general elections.

I doubt there's much to be gained by jumping into the republican party combine, other than a few opportunities for possibly educating and monkey wrenching.

For myself I'd rather just let it rot.

Their combine has gone off the bridge, has become a public nuisance, and is not worth salvaging.

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:11 PM
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15. thanks for the post and the pics
when the GOP betrays us, I understand it. When the Dems betray us, I feel..betrayed...
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:52 PM
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16. One must cultivate patience
to be pragmatic.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:54 PM
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17. I like everything but the...
...grow up part...

I've been a Democrat all My voting days, even with Republican (Not neo-con) parents... and I think I'm fine just the way I am.

But it is s good idea.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:10 AM
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19. I suppose "Grow Up" could be changed to "Wise Up"
and still have approximately the same meaning.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 12:02 AM
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18. "Mature enough to know the Republicans have conned us."
(Personally, I think any remaining Republicans have to *evolve* to get anywhere.)
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:47 AM
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21. Kentuck says something similar...
kentuck (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-09-06 05:16 AM
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It's time for the adults to take over....

Edited on Thu Mar-09-06 05:17 AM by kentuck

Not just any adults but responsible adults. We don't need any more of these adult experts on military affairs that never served a day in military service but spent most of their adult lives in escape and evasion. We don't need adult "neo-cons" that never had to work a day in their lives, living in their own little krystalized world, determining the strategy for the rest of us. These adults of the Republican netherworld have got us stuck under the anvil. Bring me a child with a brain!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=611796&mesg_id=611796
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