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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:23 PM
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My letter to the DNC
March 1, 2006



Democratic National Committee
430 South Capitol Street, SE
PO Box 96585
Washington, DC 20077-7242


Re: Response to solicitation for contribution


Dear Democratic National Committee:

How dare you posture as representing real opposition when you defer to the present administration on the most salient points.

Grow a spine. Stand for something. Seek impeachment.

Then you might consider asking for my help and I might consider doing what pathetically little this impoverished person can do.

I did everything I could to help the Democrats in 2004. I will do so again for those particular Democrats that I perceive as really trying to make a difference on the most important points. This does not, at this time, include you.


Sincerely,



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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:27 PM
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1. That's a lot of bluster that says nothing
Seriously, there's zero point in such a vague, aimless rant like that.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:29 PM
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2. Pointless...
Are you saying Howard Dean of all people, has no spine?

This is counterproductive. The DNC is there to raise money to elect Democrats, including those you may support. If you have a problem with policy look to elected officials!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:30 PM
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3. Great Letter...
bravo! :applause:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:33 PM
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4. You might want to address that crap to those who make policy.
Not the DNC.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:06 PM
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19. Exactly -- our poster is fighting the wrong damn people
Good sentiment, wrong "enemies" -- and I'm SO tired of seeing this around here.

Here's the scoop:

The DNC is headed by Howard Dean who has just finished his first year as Chair. He has set records raising money, and has put a total of 200 organizing activists at work for the state parties in all 50 states. HE IS RE-BUILDING THE PARTY FROM THE GROUND UP, and he deserves our help, ESP. since he's proven himself such an effective leader and executive.

HE IS NOT, HOWEVER, in charge of or even "allowed" to be involved in policy. Reid and Pelosi jealously withheld that for themselves. As a result, the party doesn't end up speaking with one voice. That is NOT his fault or his problem.

Nor is he involved in recruiting or financing candidates at various levels. For Congress and Senate, I'm sorry to say that the two committees run by Washington insiders seem to be heavily DLC- and/or Clintonite influenced. THIS IS NOT DEAN'S or the DNC's FAULT.

You just sent your letter to the wrong damn people. If you want change from the bottom up, the DNC is EXACTLY where you DO want to send your money. DFA (Democracy for America, which used to be Dean for American, run by Dean's brother) is another good place. They DO get involved in helping good candidates at all levels especially local.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:35 PM
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5. Do you have any clue who the DNC is?
And what they do?

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ihaveaquestion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:41 PM
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6. They give money to DEMS for election ...
and they CAN and SHOULD use their big money stick to keep those DEMS who want their support to stay in line or lose their support. This is what the REPUKES do and how they've gotten what they want over the past 30 years.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:43 PM
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8. No, that is not true.
The DSCC and the DCCC give the candidates money or not. The DNC under Dean is rebuilding state parties and will handle the 08 campaign.

They are pretty separate entities.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:44 PM
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9. And why we are in the mess we are in...
As the Republican fall in line behind their leader as they jump off a cliff.

This isn't the Soviet Union...party bosses don't try to enforce rigid idealogical dogmatism, and they certainly don't engage in purges. They are there to get Democrats elected plain and simple.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:42 PM
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7. Actually I do have some clues,
including first and foremost--though not only--the solicitation letter that they sent me. I hit on many of the points that Garrison Keillor had written about yesterday with regard to opposing the Bush Administration on peripheral issues and conceding it center stage (and implicit rectitude) on national security and Iraq and related points.

I included a copy of that essay with my letter.


I may have erred. I do that sometimes.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:47 PM
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10. They are opposing.
The media is not doing a good job of telling you.

Dean spoke out loudly yesterday that no foreign country should own or control our ports.

Betcha you did not see that on TV, did you?

Dana Milbanks wrote about it, the transcript from the conference is up somewhere....but the media is not covering it.

You are being unfair.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 04:02 PM
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11. You are right on one thing
I didn't see that on TV.

I don't own one.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 04:09 PM
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12. Who is banning Kerry, Dean, Hillary & Obama from TV News shows?
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 04:12 PM by Dr Fate
Which channels & which TV hosts are doing this?

Who is stopping top DEMs w/ media access from bringing up impeachment or listing Bush's lies (and calling them "Lies"?), etc,etc.

Blaming the media does not work as an excuse for not fighting anymore- we know the media is biased, now I want to see top Democrats, front & center, DOING somthing about it.

Did the media not report the Democratic Filibuster of Alito?- Oh, thats right, the media did not cover it because we did not do it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 04:12 PM
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13. I did not say that.
Please don't do that. Come on. I said they are not covering things our Democrats have said. Dean and Mehlman spoke to a Jewish group yesterday, and apparently according to Milbank Dean went on attack.

What are talking about and what are you reading into what I say?

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 04:17 PM
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14. You mean the media does not cover obscure speeches to Jewish groups?


Well, then that means Dean needs to go ON TV and say whatever it is he said at that meeting.

Then Kerry, Obama, Hillary and other DEMS with meida access need to go on TV and REPEAT it.

Why do we keep expecting the Republican owned media to do us favors by covering obscure speeches and tough talk on web-pages?

The "the media wont cover anything we say" excuse does not fly, unless you can show me an example of a network or show not allowing top, house hold name Democrats interviews or guest slots on their channles.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 04:30 PM
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15. Ok, I give up.
Just go ahead. I don't have a clue why you are doing this. They have failed to cover Dem press conferences, they have ignored important things the Dems have said.

But hey, go ahead.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 04:51 PM
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16. You mean Republican paid journalists ignore Democratic "conferences?"
Tell me no!! How could that be? Someone needs to alert the Democratic leadership!!!

But seriously, the solution is not to use that as a catch all excuse, the solution is to go ON TV and have the "conference" right there in Wolf Blitzer's face.

I dont know why you have a problem with me suggesting that DEMS need to go on TV and say things directly into the camera as opposed to waiting and hoping in vain for Republican paid journalists to cover obscure meetings and "conferences."
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 05:49 PM
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17. and that is exactly why the DNC needs to "strongly encourage" its
members to make our points in every interview, every time, regardless of what the talking head wants to talk about.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:59 PM
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18. Exactly. Its not rocket science.
It is not hard to to steer the debate:

"Wolf, that reminds me of a closely related issue that I get mail about everyday- blah, blah, blah blah..."

Now if EVERY Democrat did it, they could not stop it.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:34 PM
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20. Yet another confused poster.
Sigh.
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