President McCain: sooner than you think?

[Domitan]

Imagine Cheney resigning or being forced out this year...Bush picks McCain as his VP.

Enough Dems come into power in 2006 elections. Bush gets impeached and driven out of the White House.

Who do you have?

President McCain!

Like this or loathe this scenario...it's not far-fetched.

[babylonsister]

1. I can't stand McCain, but I can't stand the blivet more. nt

[AndyA]

2. Definitely a possibility

I think 2006 is going to be a very busy year, politically.

Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

[Cooley Hurd]

3. It would be better than a continued Chimp pResidency...

...but not by much.

The easiest way to shoot down a McCain presidency: Remind people of Rove's dirty tricks in the 2000 SC primary (whisper campaign about Cindy McCain's pain killer addiction), then show the pics of McCain hugging the Chimp.

Voiceover: "Can you really trust a man who won't even defend his own wife???"

[Talismom]

4. One way or another, I see McCain as a major threat and am very

concerned.

[jackbourassa]

5. Bush won't pick McCain...

...he'll pick Rice. If it's true that Cheney will resign after the midterms. Rice will be VP and will probably be the Presidential candidate in 2008.

[Cooley Hurd]

6. Their survival (and freedom) depends on picking a "company woman"

...who will continue the coverup. Anyone else, and they run the risk of exposure for a myriad of crimes.

My money's on Rice, also...

[hippiechick]

8. The KKK bubbas of the GOP party would revolt ...

... 2/3 of the GOP base are pre-deluvian rednecks who would fire up their ATV's and storm Washington if a BLACK ... WOMAN ... was put in any kind of position resembling 'power' in a GOP administration.

Don't count on George's successor being Condi.

[Cooley Hurd]

9. Who else could they choose to be sure their secrets would be safe?

:shrug:

[hippiechick]

15. I'm pretty sure they have McCain under their thumb ...

... he's been a very good little stooge since they pimp slapped him in the primaries in 2000 ...
I can't imagine what they have on him, but it must be enormous because he's been kissing George's ass ever since the original SCOTUS Selection.

He may despise Bush on a personal level, but since he's a 'good American' and a 'team player' (and because of whatever they have on him), he'll be the secret-keeper until they're all safely pardoned, the statutes of limitations are up, and their bank accounts are transferred offshore.

:hi:

[Cooley Hurd]

16. They definitely have something on him, no doubt...

Why else would he roll like a dog DESPITE the attacks on him and his wife during the 200 SC primary?

:hi:

[jackbourassa]

22. They're already prepping her for the job

This is why I think the story about Cheney leaving after the midterms is true. They'll make up some health crisis and he'll say that he "wants to spend more time with his family." But he'll leave in November and Rice will be chosen.

Bush will be lauded for his "bold" pick - blah, blah, blah.

Condi will be the GOP nominee in 2008 and we'll crush her.

[waiting for hope]

10. Naw, he'll pick Jeb...

keeping the WH in the family you know....

[karynnj]

14. I doubt that Bush would nominate McCain

if Cheney resigned. With Bush's numbers sinking, the Republicans might impeach him if they were ok with the vp. Rice is so complicit with everything Bush did that she doesn't offer a clean break.

[jackbourassa]

23. McCain isn't a Bushie. Condi is...

That's all Bush cares about - blind loyalty.

[Dulcinea]

27. Not gonna happen.

I'm pretty sure Arizona has a Dem governor. That means a Dem will get McCain's Senate seat.

Plus, the fundies hate McCain & will stay home in droves in 2008 if he gets the nomination.

[jackbourassa]

29. Dulcinea, I never thought of that

Ya you're right. AZ does have a Dem governor and will reelect her.

That is the nail. No way McCain becomes VP.

[radio4progressives]

28. That's Why Rice is doing Work Out Videos - Sexy VP -> Next Prez

it won't be McCain, it will most certainly be Rice..

that's why they're out there pushing work out videos, so that people can be enamoured with her physical beauty (sex appeal sells, remember?) and physical fitness to somehow translate to a "efficeint working machine" ..

that's the entire point of the work out videos.

[hippiechick]

7. Sounds like Watergate all over again ...

Veep resigns just ahead of a gathering storm, Prez appoints a boot licker to replace him, then within a year or so, the Prez resigns 'to avoid disgrace' knowing full well the buffoon he's appointed will pardon him and all his unseemly pals.


Yup. It's the 70's once more !! :hippie:

[sendero]

11. It's not at all ..

... far fetched. I'm convinced that McCain will be their standard-bearer in 2008 one way or another. This would give him a huge leg up. I think you are right.

[flamingpie2500]

12. McCain is pro-choice it will never happen.

[sendero]

13. Why would they care about that?

The majority of the country is pro-choice, this gives them plausible deniability. They still have the SCOTUS to do any dirty work they want done, the executive has next to nothing to do with the issue of abortion, other than lip service and judgeship appointments.

[flamingpie2500]

17. the majority of the country may be pro-choice but they are NOT in charge

at the moment. They don't want McCain anywhere near the white house and they will NOT nominate him for 2008

[sendero]

19. IMHO...

.... they have been grooming McCain for a while now. It might all be an act, they may be "playing" everyone, but of one thing I'm certain - the abortion issue will have jack shit to do with it, period. They already have everything they need to get what they SAY they want, my guess is that RoeVWade isn't going anywhere, it's too good a wedge issue.

[noonwitch]

21. McCain is not pro choice

Check his voting record out. He's pretty consistently anti-choice.

[ChipsAhoy]

25. No - McCain is NOT pro-choice.

He said it again this past weekend. But, many Pub's hate McCain.

[OneTwentyoNine]

18. Once again why would President Cheney resign or be forced out?

Look,dim bulb Bush doesn't make ANY decisions in DC,that fact is proven over and over. He goes where they tell him to go and do what the Corporatate interests tell him to do. Cheney and Rove are running this entire disaster and George W. Bush isn't going to tell Cheney ANYTHING.

Hell,Cheney will make almost another $million in VP wages before they leave office for doing NOTHING. He's not going to give that up or his position of power.

[ChipsAhoy]

26. EXACTLY -- Cheney is there to stay until 2008.

He's not going anywhere.

[SheilaT]

20. Cheney is not going to resign

voluntarily. Especially if he truly is the "power behind the throne" as is commonly thought.

So long as Republicans hold the majorities in the House and Senate there is absolutely no chance of Bush being impeached, not even if he's filmed committing the most impeachable possible offense (I'll leave it to your individual imaginations what kind of scenario that would be).

However, it is correct to think that if by some miracle Democrats regain power later this year, that there's a distant chance of impeachment, but not so long as Cheney is VP. It would just be a matter of someone (some special prosecutor perhaps) having the will to actually go after the VIP's many illegal acts.

[calimary]

32. Just remember: "...so long as republi-CONS hold the majorities in the

House and Senate..."

That's gonna last til about - oh, I think - November.

January '07 will be VERY different, I suspect. :evilgrin:

Just KEEP ON VISUALIZING!!!

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!
Then go DO something about it.

[SaveElmer]

24. Not one piece in that Byzantine puzzle will happen...

Cheney will not resign or be forced out...

If he did, there isn't a chance in hell he would pick McCain....

And there is not a chance in hell the Democrats will get a big enough majority in 2006 to convict Bush!!!

[Independent_Liberal]

30. I've been imagining that same scenario myself.

Don't listen to the defeatists and naysayers. They don't know what they're talking about. (Sorry, I couldn't resist. What can I say? I love to joke around with people. :))

Here's what I think will happen. The magic 20. Read 'em and weap.

1. The Justice Department appoints a Special Prosecutor for the Abramoff case. Jack blows the whistle on several Republican leaders in the House, Senate and Executive Branch. Hastert, Ney, Rohrabacher, Doolittle, Burns, Cornyn, Blunt, etc. are all indicted.

2. Frist is indicted for his inside trading.

3. Rove is indicted on treason charges by Fitzgerald in the CIA Leak investigation.

4. Ken Lay is convicted and the Enron case finds its way to the White House.

5. Some unsavory information about the deals with Halliburton and Carlyle comes out of Portgate.

6. A few whistleblowers step forward at the open and closed door NSA and Able Danger hearings and more interesting info is revealed.

7. More damaging info is revealed at the Katrina hearings.

8. Cheney is indicted on charges relating to Plame, AIPAC, Halliburton and the Energy Commission cover-up and is forced to resign.

9. Congress forces Bush to appoint McCain as Vice President.

10. An Independent Commission to investigate the NSA wiretaps is set up.

11. Sibel Edmonds takes her case with the Justice Department on FBI cover-ups to one of the Federal courts.

12. Democrats win back the House and Senate in the November elections.

13. January 2007, the new Congress is sworn in (with Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House and John Conyers as House Judiciary Committee Chairman).

14. Conyers sets up a House Select Fact Finding Committee to investigate everything (DSM, Plame, AIPAC, Abramoff, Enron, Halliburton, Carlyle, NSA, Coingate, Election Fraud, 9/11 cover-ups, Katrina response, etc.). Hearings begin and several whistleblowers from the FBI, CIA and NSA step forward.

15. The Senate sets up an investigative committee and a Special Prosecutor is appointed. Senate hearings begin and Sibel Edmonds, Russell Tice, Richard Clarke and James Comey all step forward to testify.

16. All the corrupt Republicans are given thorough ethics probes.

17. Impeachment proceedings begin.

18. A small delegation of Republican Senators go up to the White House and urge Bush to resign.

19. Bush resigns to avoid impeachment.

20. McCain is sworn in as President. He appoints George Pataki as his Vice President and Rumsfeld is replaced with Lieberman.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on my predictions.

[0007]

31. Probably very close to a reality.......A big big part of the repukes

will cringe and have to bear McCain. He is not that popular!

[bklyncowgirl]

33. That's the way I see it happening.

Cheney quits or is forced out.

Bush appoints McCain, Condi or whoever his party approved successor happens to be (It will be the party making the choice--not Bush)

The scandals intensify.

The Republicans do to Bush what they did to Nixon--Resign or get impeached.

Bush packs it up and heads to Crawford.

The new, spectacularly popular, GOP President is ready to run.

[depakid]

34. It is far fetched because

Enough Dems will:

#1 NOT come into power in 2006, as they seems to be intent on doing everything they can to keep on with their losing ways; and

#2 About a fifth of the Democratic party members at the national level are little more than Republican enablers.

Quite frankly, it surprises me that people think that representatives and senators who consistently cross party lines to vote with the far right will somehow magically stop doing that if by some divine intervention the Dems reclaimed majority status. Cats like that don't change their stripes.

The Dems would never impeach Bush- they lack the courage and political fortitude to even put up much of a fight as it is. The Alito vote (and the State of the Union "rebuttal") are prime examples- both of why impeachment will never happen- and why the Dems don't have more than a prayer in 2006.

I wish that weren't true. But it is.

[mdmc]

35. Dems would never support impeachment, imho

and 2006 is a long time away, politically. Fear = Big GOP gains.

[Independent_Liberal]

36. Once again, I'm not going to let people like you get me down.

Sorry, I just had to reinforce it.

:)

[mdmc]

37. here , is a kick for your

hope!:kick:God Bless! Peace and low stress!

[Domitan]

38. Huffingtonpost would agree with this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2490853&mesg_id=2490853

[Initech]

39. Hypothetically, what if it were the other way around?

What if the dems gain back the number of seats they need to oust Bush or he's forced to resign via invoking the 25th amendment?

Cheney is put into place as acting president and McCain is made vice president.

Cheney, who already has an 18% approval rating (which is lower than probably any VP in history), is put under such close scrutiny by all parties involved that he wouldnt last more than two months as president.

Boom. We have president John McCain.

[Rhiannon12866]

40. Bush* would never choose McCain. They are not even close to friendly...

McCain has given him more trouble than the Democrats have, wet kisses not withstanding...:shrug:

[peaches2003]

41. No way- the Bushies hate McCain

No way is that a possibility because Bush would NEVER pick McCain. Above all the Bushies demand 100% total loyalty and McCain has not given that. It would have to be one of the Chimp's toadies- Condi or Jeb, and I don't think he would have the nerve to pick Jeb. But, I've been fooled before and nothing is below him. I think he would rather have Condi succeed him.

[laugle]

42. Bush gets impeached, Cheney quits due to health, and Condi's in!

I don't see the christian wacko's going for McCain!!

I have no doubt Rove will again use the religious right to try and win in 2008!! Afterall, that's the only ones that support the neo-cons now.

The regressives are soooo mixed-up now, they don't know which way to go. Bill Frisk or McCain? I hope they choose Frisk because he will lose!!

BTW, instead of talking down Hillary we should ratchet up the negative rhetoric on McCain. Fight fire with fire!!!

[yurbud]

43. McCain might have a better chance coming in "clean" without any

public, formal ties to the Bushies.

Remember Gerry Ford didn't win after Nixon put him in the same scenario.

[Robbins]

44. 2006

We have a good chance to take Congress however while we can have hearings on Bush's scandals and
possibly Impeach him Bush could not be removed without some Republican senators breaking with Bush.
And Cheney will only resign If the CIA Leak can get him. As for Mccain I see him as a possible
replacement for Cheney If worse happens however all of Mccain's embracing of Bush could come back to
haunt him In 2008.

[yurbud]

45. like I said, all those hug photos will be priceless