Wonder how Mary Landrieu is feeling right about now?

[DancingBear]

I was listening to Sam Seder on AAR this afternoon, and a caller was saying that he just spoke to her office, and that the staff was in tears after seeing the AP Katrina tapes.

Part of me feels very bad for her, and the other part just wants to scream "I told you" at the top of my lungs.

I am curious to see where she goes from here, and if this pushes her off the DINO ledge.

If anyone has the moral high ground to slaughter Bush with almost impunity, it is her.

Will she or won't she?

[WCGreen]

1. I am still thinking she would make a great running mate

for Clark........

[...of J.Temperance]

7. You've mentioned that before and I agreed with you WCGreen

So I'm agreeing with you again. Senator Landrieu would be an excellant choice for Veep, she's got mainstream appeal as a Moderate Democrat and she's got some good National Security credentials from her time on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

[WCGreen]

12. That would be a dream ticket.....

Seriously....

Her views about the environment and the oil industry are dictated by the state from which she comes...

In Congress, you are first a representative of the people who elected you and then you are a representative of the people beyond your borders...

I am sure once she was beyond the parochial interests of her state, she would blossom into a moderate on economic issues and more progressive on social issues....

She carried her self very well under extreme duress....

[...of J.Temperance]

16. Absolutely!

Her views about the environment and the oil industry are dictated by the state from which she comes...

In Congress, you are first a representative of the people who elected you and then you are a representative of the people beyond your borders...

Very well commented and it's completely accurate. It's a pity that more people on DU can't understand this, when it's so simple to understand.

I've always said that Senator Landrieu is a lot more Liberal than she's allowed to be. If she were a Senator from California, then she'd have a similar voting record to Senator Boxer.

Senator Landrieu did carry herself well through extraordinary and surreal circumstances and she deserves much respect for doing so.

[mattclearing]

8. Goodness no!

She's terrible on the issues. She's right up there with Joementum when it comes to screwing her own side over.

[...of J.Temperance]

14. Nonsense

Senator Landrieu is pro-Choice, pro-Social Security, pro-Union, pro-Payroll Taxcut, pro-National Debt reduction, to mention a few things.

I'm not responding to this Joementum stuff anymore, I've said my piece in my thread in GD: Politics.

[mattclearing]

38. Alito, ANWR, Bankruptcy, IWR, Patriot Act

Yeah, she's great. :eyes:

[still_one]

13. she votes very similar to liberman

she is no progressive

[...of J.Temperance]

18. Senator Landrieu is about as progressive as a Democrat can be in

The South and still keep their seat.

[thatsrightimirish]

31. no

Blanche lincoln is much more progressive.

[KansDem]

2. Yeah, and didn't she vote for the schmuck's Supreme Court choice?

Alito? Bet she feels real down right about now...:cry:

[...of J.Temperance]

4. So did 26 other Democrats....only 18 Democrats voted against

So what are you saying about Senator Landrieu huh? And are those crocodile tears?

[KansDem]

10. Not at all...

Perhaps she felt working with the administration (or at least giving the impression that she was) would increase her chances of federal assistance. But alas if that was the intent, Bush got what he wanted and the people of New Orleans are still without help.

on edit: And it turns out all along that Bush was responsible for the death and destruction that he, with the help of the corporate media, placed at her doorstep.

[...of J.Temperance]

22. Okay, sorry

I think that Senator Landrieu should have known by now that playing nice with Junior gets you jackshit.

When Junior started to squat in the WH, Senator Landrieu in the spirit of it being good for the country, she attempted to be bi-partisan....so did Senator Cleland.

Of course they received not thanks at all from Junior. Senator Cleland was knifed in 2002 in Georgia, and they did their best to knife Senator Landrieu in 2002 by putting up an array of Repukes against her....thankfully she kicked Suzanne Haik Terrell's ass.

All I can think about the Katrina actions, is that Senator Landrieu genuinely thought that Junior would see what a catastrophic situation they were in and help out. Of course Senator Landrieu forgot that she's a human being....and that Junior is a sociopath-psychopath who enjoys watching human beings suffer and die.

[lyonn]

26. Factor in bush's approval rating of 43%

Will elected dems now stiffen their spine and make loud noises instead of fearing the mighty repubs.?

[davidwparker]

3. Turn her out. No sympathy. When you lay down with dogs, ....

[...of J.Temperance]

6. No other Democrat could win Senator Landrieu's seat

So if anyone challenges her....then I'm sure that people will like a 100% full-on Repuke like David Vitter in the Senate....and that helps my party how exactly?

[pacalo]

17. As a Louisianian, I agree.

Although I can get frustrated as hell with her voting, I understand her position as senator in a red state. I'd be willing to bet, though, that my state will turn blue for the 2008 presidential election.

[...of J.Temperance]

21. Thanks :)

About 2008, I think it comes down to who we choose as our nominee, a Mark Warner, Wesley Clark or John Edwards would do very well in Louisiana. There's a lot of Populism still about.

[golden voyages]

25. But how can the state turn blue when we've lost so much precious black?

[pacalo]

30. Disasters are equal opportunity.

Believe me, there are very many angry affluent white homeowners who were affected & are still displaced.

[davidwparker]

28. I'd say, run those who are true to the Dem platform and if that person

looses, let LA get the Repub. When the voters get tired of Repub policies, then they'll vote for the Dem. I'm in VA and keep hearing bad votes surrounding Landieu. So, to me, my view is she is no better than a Repub. Maybe if she looses her seat for one cycle, then you'd be able to find someone like our Mark Warner here in VA, which is currently red going blue.

I live in a state with two certifiable Repubs and I'd rather see a true Dem run and loose rather than a DINO.

[DaveinMD]

35. control of the chamber

is much more important than individual votes that get picked apart. The party in control determines the agenda. That is the most important thing. And who decides what the Democratic ideal is.

[Hippo_Tron]

37. Mark Warner isn't necessarilly more progressive than Landrieu

I have no doubt that he was a good Governor of VA but I haven't heard him say anything on the national level that leads me to believe that he is progressive... or presidential for that matter.

[Bridget Burke]

41. My Senators are Cornyn & Hutchison...

I'd love to see them replaced by any sort of Democrat.

[Hippo_Tron]

36. No other Democrat RIGHT NOW could win Landrieu's seat

Landrieu is what we have because she has a political legacy and powerful connections. That being said our state is a red state but our politics are also incredibly odd and unpredictable. If a progressive charismatic figure (preferably one with cajun ancestry) would emerge, they would have a damn good shot at winning a senate seat. So far no such figure has come out and that's largely why we lost the last senate race to David Vitter.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

5. No Sympathy At All

I have no sympathy for her. I feel sorry for the constituants in LA who have had their lives ruined because of her complicity in all this.

She kissed up to King george, and made her own bed.

[mattclearing]

9. Nagin looks better and better by contrast. n/t

[...of J.Temperance]

19. Ray Nagin is a Republican, I've never liked him and I don't trust him

He'll not be re-elected.

[FrannyD]

24. I don't like him

or Mary Mary quite contrary. Bunch of hacks.

[mattclearing]

39. LOL...he is???

Wow...my ignorance is showing. I must have known this at one point or another, but I had forgotten.

Nevermind...he's useless.

[...of J.Temperance]

11. No one has done as much for Louisiana as the Landrieu's have

They're highly respected. Could you elaborate on this comment of yours and tell me what exactly you mean by it?

I have no sympathy for her. I feel sorry for the constituants in LA who have had their lives ruined because of her complicity in all this.

What's Senator Landrieu's complicity in all this?

[still_one]

15. her voting record is mostly non-progressive also

I could not agree more with you

[...of J.Temperance]

20. See post #18 and

her voting record is mostly non-progressive also

I think the operative word is this sentence of yours is MOSTLY, mostly-non-progressive.

Yep throw Senator Landrieu onto the scrapheap, have a 100% Repuke Senator like David Vitter who's voting record will be TOTALLY non-progressive....would that be better?

So I'm not 100% in favor of Senator Landrieu's voting record, some of her votes are appalling however I agree with her votes on at least 60% of the issues and that's good enough for me.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

23. You Agree With Her On 60%, Eh?

It's amazing how when repubs elect somebody, they agree with their party members 100%. They'll move heaven and earth to satisfy their repuke party constituents.

With democrats, it's ok so long as they side with you 60% of the time. The other 40%? Well, the other 40% of the time they side with the repubs, and that's ok too.

So the repubs get their own 100% voting record, plus the dems sometimes contribute. Sounds quite fair to me. I'm sure the dems will get ahead using that scenario.

[rockymountaindem]

27. No, Republicans don't care about their constituency

If they did, don't you think they would have lowered taxes for all those millions of hardworking Nascar dads?

The reason you hear 100% unity from the Republicans so often is not because their politicans care more about satisfying the base, but because the base realizes that each individual is part of the whole and they don't go around making noise about disagreements on little issues, or on big ones until the wheels have fallen off and it's too late (witness Mr. Buckley)

For the party that supposedly emphasizes individualism, the Republicans sure do have a lot more groupthink and party loyalty than we do. Republicans aren't really in agreement on everything all the time as you suggest, they just don't like to talk about their differences.

[Janice325]

29. OrangeCountyDemocrat,

You wrote:
"... I feel sorry for the constituants in LA who have had their lives ruined because of her complicity in all this."
Not trying to flame or anything, but I find that statement ridiculous in that IMO, NOTHING Senator Landrieu could have/would have/should have done regarding Katrina would have mattered one iota regarding Louisiana and its constituants.
Haven't you seen the tape of Bush and the video teleconference released a couple of days ago? The man is off on his own little planet, much like Michael Jackson (again, this is just an opinion).
Bush lied. People died.
Bush lies. People are still dying.
I lived in Louisiana most of my life. For a woman to be elected to office, she has to be "nice," (for example, like Lindy Boggs, Governor Blanco, Senator Landrieu). She has to stay "nice" and "ladylike" to be reelected. (Again, just my opinion).
A Barbara Boxer (who I adore) couldn't be elected in Louisiana.
Again, all the above is just an opinion. I'm still so upset and pissed off at the ignoring,desertion and displacement of so many helpless, truly needy people by this vile, ugly, corrupt, heartless administration. :puke:
Ok, editing to comment on your initial post, DancingBear. I hope Mary Landrieu verbally goes after Bush and keeps pointing out the lies and changing stories that keep coming up from this administration regarding Katrina. I hope she goes after him like a dog going after a bone. Backs him into a corner with no way out. I don't think she has anything to lose, at least politically.
I don't necessarily think she's be a good VP candidate due to the (mis)conception of her screwing up with Katrina.
I think she'd be excellent at a Cabinet post, though.

[DancingBear]

32. Being a former native, let me ask you this

Do you think she will go after him? I don't know, but after reading your comments on decorum and how it plays in the deep south (I live in VA, but in the northern part) I tend to lean towards the "no" side. I'm not sure if she believes she has nothing to lose.

I hope I'm wrong.

Your thoughts?

[Janice325]

34. Nope. You're right.

She won't go after him. It's just wishful thinking on my part. Mary didn't ask me for my opinion. (That's a joke, guys!...about her asking my opinion...crickets chirping now).
I wish someone would really, truly tell Chimpy to his face, in front of live television, that he's not wearing any clothes. (David Gregory would be my first choice).

[napsi]

33. I'm sorry folks.......

Bush's response was pathetic even criminal but Blanco and Nagin didn't do shit either. It's just another example of corruption from every angle. I won't give anyone a pass on this one regardless of the their political affiliation. The poor and helpless in NO were left to rot by all the "officals" responsible for helping them. Shame on them all.

[DancingBear]

40. Interesting response

I KNOW I've heard it before, now, let me think....

YES! I've got it!

Right wing talk radio.

Psst - watch the tapes...

[Bridget Burke]

42. All the Bush fans are squealing like stuck pigs....

And rushing to defend the indefensible. It didn't work the first time, either.

Blanco & Landriu were doing SOMETHING while Idiot Boy was doing NOTHING.

[Totally Committed]

43. She's Leiberman in drag.

F*ck her. I wonder how her Alito vote would have been if she saw those tapes BEFORE screwing with her vote? My guess: Not any different. She's a D I N O and a traitor. F*ck her.

TC

[FredScuttle]

44. Absolutely

She said, loud and proud for all of us to hear, that she wasn't going to support the Alito filibuster so that "the Congress could get back to the business of helping the Gulf region"

Hey Mary - how's that working out for ya?

Yeah, I've become a one-issue Democrat....and that issue is LOYALTY TO YOUR GODDAMN PARTY VALUES.