Government Religons

[Boo_Radley]

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/030206ccklrKmovreligionbill.7d361c3f.html

Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state's official "majority" religion.

The resolution would recognize "a Christian god," and it would not protect minority religions, but "protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs.

The resolution also recognizes that, "a greater power exists," and only Christianity receives what the resolution calls, "justified recognition."

State representative David Sater of Cassville in southwestern Missouri, sponsored the resolution, but he has refused to talk about it on camera or over the phone.

KMOV also contacted Gov. Matt Blunt's office to see where he stands on the resolution, but he has yet to respond.

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And of course

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html

If Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan has his way, a new town being built in Florida will be governed according to strict Roman Catholic principles, with no place to get an abortion, pornography or birth control.

Has America failed? Or is it failing? Have we forgotten why we used to value liberty? Are we so anxious to give the government control of our religious faiths? To be "guided" by law in how to live, what to think, and how to feel? Have we given up on freedom and liberty?

How can this type of regressive movement be fought? Is it a significant movement? How many people are involved? Is it a passing trend, brought on as a reaction to 9-11 that will pass?

[DrGonzoLives]

1. Shall not make a law respecting the establishment of...

et cetera

[ThomCat]

6. Right!

I hope this gets shot down hard. Violently if necessary.

How dare these bigoted pukes force their religion on everyone else?
:grr:

We know it's clearly unconstitional, but how much damage will this do before it gets shot down by the Supreme Court?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Ye cats and little fishes! What's next?

I don't see how this can stand, because it appears to mean that other religions can be discriminated against. Will they shut down the ashram in southern MO, or prevent the Sufis in KC to have their Dances and ceremonies? Or will they merely make it impossible for them to advertise their events, or obtain property for their organization, or even use state parks for their yearly gatherings?

And what about Unitarians and Unity? Will they be considered "Christian" enough?

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. Our forefathers

are rolling so fast in their graves they are roto-tilling down to China.

[TechBear_Seattle]

4. The article about Missouri is in error: Not a bill, but a Leg. resolution

Since it is a resolution (text at http://www.house.mo.gov/bills061/biltxt/intro/HCR0013I.htm) it is not unconstitutional as no law is actually being passed. It would, however, establish a policy by which laws would be made, enacted, enforced and interpreted.

Not at all good to us non-Christians, but not quite that bad. Yet.

[TechBear_Seattle]

5. Text of Missouri resolution

Right from the website of the Missorui state House:

http://www.house.mo.gov/bills061/biltxt/intro/HCR0013I.htm

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. Nevermind that several of those "Whereas"s are patently false,

this looks to me like it is nothing more than saying they can put a creche on the courthouse lawn. Frankly, as an atheist, I couldn't care less -- I can ignore it on the town square as easily as the church lawn across the street from the town square.

Voluntary prayer has ALWAYS been allowed in school - but it has to be purely voluntary and individual, not guided by a teacher or, by proxy, a student representing the teacher.

But, I have a proposition. If they insist that they have the right to proclaim "there is a god" on the courthouse lawn while this resolution claims "showing respect for those who object", and if they continue to insist that atheism is a 'godless religion', then I must be allowed to likewise display, for two weeks of every year, on the courthouse lawn a sign proclaiming 'There is no god - what you see is what you get'. Otherwise, they are in violation of the first amendment by actively advocating for a particular religion.

[TechBear_Seattle]

8. Legally irrelevant, sad to say

It is perfectly valid to pass a resolution that states, "Whereas the sky is pink; and Whearas the moon is made from green cheese; and Whereas George W. Bush is the earthly manifestation of all that is holy and pure, Therefore be it resolved...." The "whereas" parts only give an explanation for the "Therefore be it resolved", which is where a resolution gets serious.

[Boo_Radley]

9. Thanks!

That's creepy as hell. I'd expect it from your standard Fox dittohead, but this is an elected official spouting out that garbage.