“Let’s face it, women are created basically to give birth. "

[LincolnMcGrath]

snip

Mowen says he would work against exceptions being made for the victims of rape and incest but would be reasonable.

Mowen has won some key endorsements, including one from the Chicago Tribune and one from the Illinois Federation of Right for Life. He also has raised the most money, $88,000 through the end of last year, and reported nearly $21,000 in the bank.

He believes abortion should be outlawed unless the mother’s life is in danger and that too often the impact of abortion is hidden from the public.

“Let’s face it, women are created basically to give birth. Abortion is everything against that. There are real and true psychological consequences and issues many, many times with abortion. You never hear that,” he said.

Mr. Mowen with his child and Baby Maker!

I believe the local paper needs to hear DUer's thoughts on these comments.

[rodeodance]

1. Wonder wha his response would be to: Why was the male created?

“Let’s face it, women are created basically to give birth. Abortion is everything against that. There are real and true psychological consequences and issues many, many times with abortion. You never hear that,” he said.

[tenshi816]

2. Why was the male created?

Why, to be in charge of women and have dominion over all the animals, of course! :sarcasm:

[Cronus Protagonist]

11. He was made In God's image, of course

And God was made in his image... at exactly the same time.

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[zanne]

24. Correction: WHITE men have dominion........nt

[Imagevision]

39. And men were created to provide creature comforts for women

when they weren't chasing other "broads" around

[roguevalley]

53. may he die of prostrate cancer, since he's so facinated with

genitalia. they all are, the perverts. I loathe people like him. I would slap his mother and kick his father in the nuts if I could find them.

[LincolnMcGrath]

55. Just a heads up. The paper I culled that from often prints comments

from the web.

Have at it!

[roguevalley]

61. ah. cool. :)

[stevedeshazer]

73. Drone

[LWolf]

114. Obviously,

men were created to strut and fight until the most arrogant, biggest bully wins all the baby makers.

[ieoeja]

132. We were born to kill things.

Which makes a male right-to-lifer an oxymoron.

[ljm2002]

3. And men were created to...

...control women? make stupid pronouncements about the "hidden" impact of abortions? run around and kill each other? :shrug:

Typical patriarchal, reductionist, misogynist horseshit.

[mom cat]

103. Men were created to be sperm "donars" who then too often abandon

the woman with the task of raising the child by herself.

[LincolnMcGrath]

104. As a single custodial father, I would prefer to focus on Fundie

American Taliban men. :hi:

[mom cat]

106. My hat is off to you. Raising a child by yourself is hard work. It is

even more frustrating when the absent parent refuses to give the child any emotional or financial support. That was my case, even though he made four times my salary. Long story. I helped my daughter through college a law degree and a doctorate without his help. I am financially poor, but I have the greatest daughter in the world and he is cut out of her life by his own doing.
I am sure that you have a story to tell too.
PS. I do not really believe that all men are only sperm donars. I was just giving the converse theory to the idea that women are only made to bear children. Some men get it right ... and some women get it wrong.

[LincolnMcGrath]

107. I have three boys.

:hi:

[mom cat]

118. Oh my ... You must be flat out 24/7.

:hug:

[calimary]

130. Holy Cow! My mother-in-law barely survived that.

Blessings to ya! I wish you lots of good, reliable, and affordable (but preferably gratis) help. :thumbsup:

[cornermouse]

4. Another idiot that thinks women just pop those babies out

on command. He also apparently thinks women are too frail and feeble minded to make their own decisions without his guidance.

[LincolnMcGrath]

5. I really think this should be kicked to the front page.

I realize it is early in the morning, but lets go DUers.

[Behind the Aegis]

6. What the hell is going on?!?!

Women are "babymakers!" Gays are "too sensitive." What next, "Blacks really enjoyed slavery!?" What the Hell is wrong with people?!

When we, as a group (humans), decide another group is not "competent" enough to make decisions over his/her own body, then there is a real fucking problem!

Women, the eternal victims.

When women are treated as TRUE equals with men, then all the other pieces will start to fall into place!

[smtpgirl]

88. I am a sypmpathizer to your comments, but

as long as men are in offices of power, this kind of mindset will go on and on.

We are going to be "victims" as long as those kind of women exist, hence SD.

[okieinpain]

125. dude, they've already floated the blacks liked slavery.

[murielm99]

7. Fortunately, he is no match for Lane Evans.

He may not even win his primary.

[Behind the Aegis]

8. I don't know who Lane Evans is...

...but thankfully the other asshole (baby-makers R us) won't see the light of day!

[murielm99]

9. Lane Evans is the Democratic representative in the district

where the fundie idiot wants to run. He has been the rep for a long time, and does a good job. He has Parkinson's disease, but it does not affect his ability to do his job.

There are a lot of good, loyal Democrats in the 17th district. My district works with them a lot.

[Behind the Aegis]

13. Thank you!

I am in Oklahoma...so a progressive liberal of any stripe has the better chance of winning the lottery than an election!

I am glad that a person seeing that women are (*gasp*) human too, will wipe the floor with this bigot!

[nickinSTL]

43. I used to live in Evans' district

back before I was old enough to vote...mostly.

I remember in the '94 election, he had an opponent that was trying to use homophobia to get elected. Attacked Evans for his support of gay rights in radio commercials.

[LincolnMcGrath]

50. I remember those ads!

I lived in the Sterling/Rock Falls area back then.

[nickinSTL]

64. I was at Augustana College at the time

n/t

[LincolnMcGrath]

70. Ah, a Viking alumn?

:thumbsup:

[nickinSTL]

96. yep

:D

[LincolnMcGrath]

26. I think he wins the primary if we cannot stop him cold here.

The district is littered with Mowen signs.

[blm]

59. Lane Evans is a shoe-in as long as BBV isn't a factor.

He definitely has the vets working for his re-election.

[LincolnMcGrath]

60. I think so too! I really woudl like to get this loser called on the carpet

for his statements.

[laylah]

10. OMG!

This article is in my local paper...YIKES! He sounds like the perfect Nazi "...changes in the Medicaid system and stricter controls on welfare recipients, requiring them to work and pass drug tests. “The welfare system is a joke,” he says." and "“Let’s face it, women are created basically to give birth.". What an idiot!

I'll certainly be talking about THIS jerk. I got your baby maker, ya freak! :mad:

Jenn

[spooky3]

20. His real estate business must be booming

Who wouldn't want to such a respectful guy and a marketing genius as their agent?

[schrodingers_cat]

63. What's that sound? Why, it's the sound of millions of professional women,

doctors, laywers, construction workers, captains of ships, chief executive officers, waitresses, mechanics, et al, collectively wretching :puke: and laughing their heads off :rofl: concurrently

(doesn't he also know that we are born multitaskers?:sarcasm: )

[smtpgirl]

89. Yeah, when the women have the babies,

who really takes care of them? This is too much like women should be seen, not heard.

I cannot believe that this bullshit is happening

[LincolnMcGrath]

91. It is a reality. I believe this is issue #1 this fall

Idiots like Mr Mowen need to be violently slammed by progressive women from across the country, Just as anti-choicers have banded together.

[Sooner75]

98. correctamundo......

I see the issue here as one of sovereignty pure and simple. A woman should have the right to control her body and the reproductive processes associated with it. Period.

Imagine for a moment that men could get pregnant. Then, imagine that a star NFL quarterback found himself expecting just as his team is heading into the playoffs. Do you really think that he'd be denied the choice of terminating the pregnancy? OK, moot point. But, I think we all see that there is still this shadowy assumption that women are somehow less capable of making such a decision. (It may be useful to recall that women have had the vote for LESS than 100 years in our 229 year old republic <1920, I believe>. Women like Susan B. Anthony had to fight like wildcats to win that one.)

When the civil rights movement was moving forward in the 50's and 60's, it wasn't the white Southerners suddenly saying, "Geez! What were we thinking!" Oh, no. They fought it every step of the way. It was the blacks who stood up and demanded equal rights and equal treatment who made it happen....along with some brave white people who stood by them. In this battle, I believe that women are going to have to take charge of this issue and the men who believe that women are our equals need to march alongside them.

[Skittles]

12. as opposed to consequences when women are forced to give birth

yeah right ya freak

[TomClash]

14. Let's face it some men were created to ejaculate nt

[badgerpup]

15. If this is true...

...then why are so many women who've had their baby-making equipment surgically removed for various reasons so much happier?

And I'll be nasty and say it...if women are created mainly to give birth; in the same biological sense does that mean that men are nothing but walking sperm banks?

[Clark2008]

16. Dear Lord. Another freakin' fundie who hasn't read the Bible.

Women were created, you freak, because Adam was lonely. If you read Genesis, you'd know that. Jerk-off.

Why do these fundies whip out the Bible for everything, but don't know a word in it?

[Mad_Dem_X]

28. So true - it says in Genesis

That Woman was created to be a PARTNER to Man!

[LincolnMcGrath]

30. Post that in the QC Times comment section, or a LTTE

Very good point! :yourock:

[pecwae]

17. There are real and true

psychological consequences and issues many, many times with forced birth, unwanted children. You never hear that until the child that has been forced to be born is injured, starved, dead by some other means and/or the mother suffers equally. Mr. Mowen, until you can become inseminated, STFU!

[cali]

18. kick because

tempting as it is to scornfully dismiss these atavistic creeps, just that they feel the environment is amenable to making such statements is highly disturbing.

[LisaLynne]

19. True.

At this point in time, we should be far, far beyond the place where someone would feel that this is an acceptable position to take. We're sliding back.

[LincolnMcGrath]

25. We are sliding back. imho

The RW sound machine spits out many vulgar backward opinions everyday, all meant to drive the discussion down their road.

[mopinko]

22. kick for that

[MadMaddie]

41. I agree....the neocon nuts feel that is okay to say these thing...

the * cabal has created this environment of hate.....and the people like this guy are testing the waters....to see if there is backlash against their statements!!!

I still don't see the outrage....there should be more outrage...

[The Witch]

21. Kick for sheer disgust.

oh my oh my.

:puke:

[Gregorian]

23. And men are just DICKS. (Once again, it's a male talking.)

That's what HE thinks. With his pretty little house, in a pretty little town, with his pretty little wages that pay for everything, comfortably. Oh, and add to that- he wanted his rugrat.

I won't listen to a man. It's like a man trying to tell us how it feels to be pregnant, and to give birth. Or orgasm, for that matter. Men are pretty much idiots.

I'm a man, by the way. Take my comments in context.

[LincolnMcGrath]

27. Fundie Males!

Let us put the focus where it belongs.

[BoneDaddy]

38. Um you may be

Look, when stupid women say stupid things, I say they are stupid things and do not indict their whole freaking gender. You, on the other hand find some reason to throw the totality of men under the bus because this asshole says something stupid.
So for the record, you said something very stupid.

EDIT: Oh and by the way, just because you are male does not in any way shape or form give you more credence. Nothing worse than a self hating man who wants to impress women on how progressive he is by bashing his gender.

[Gregorian]

44. OK. You are definitely right.

I just happen to be in a world of turd these last few years. But I've known some of the finest, most sensitive, kind and intelligent men. I let my anger get the best of me. It's easy to do when you see so much controlling going on.

I've got to remember to keep my eye on the truth. Thanks.

[BoneDaddy]

116. I totally understand

As a young man I bought into the nonsense that men are bad, evil and the thing wrong with the world. I over feminized myself (which wasn't necessarily bad)but I did it at the expense of my masculinity. I became that hippy new age sensitive guy. I am not talking about machismo, I am talking about good, positive masculine characteristics.

By doing that I did harm to myself, my psyche and to other men. We are both masculine and feminine and to reject any side of ourself is to alienate that part of who we are. One extreme is just as imbalanced as the other. We need to seek a balance within ourselves and heal the rift that keeps us apart.

Sorry if I came off strong, I just refuse to piss all over men anymore.

[Katherine Brengle]

109. Great post----

I believe that there are men out there who are capable of empathy toward women when it comes to pregnancy, childbirth, abortion, whatever--but if you don't have a uterus, you have no idea what these things are really like.

And even if you DO have a uterus, you have NO right to tell me what I may or may not do with mine.

I don't know if men are idiots in general, but when it comes to matters of human reproduction, I think even male doctors are usually idiots (even if they are well-meaning idiots, lol, like my husband :) ).

You da man!

[LincolnMcGrath]

29. Kick This All The Way Up Folks!

[sinkingfeeling]

31. I am so glad that this man knows soooo much about being a woman!

As a mother, who had a legal abortion in 1977, what the hell does he know about the psychological consequences of abortion. I was taking methotrexate for a year before becoming pregnant. All one has to do is to read any medical dictionary about the drug's affects on a developing fetus! I made a moral and legal choice. I can only image the psychological horrors that myself, my existing son, and any child that might had made it to term would have experienced! I also am yet to see these 'know-it-alls' rush forward with tens of thousands of dollars to pay for keeping and caring for a severely mental and/or physically handicapped child!

[cindyw]

32. That's hisd daughter right? She looks a wee bit young for him.

nt

[LincolnMcGrath]

34. I noticed in his bio that he got married in 99

He got married very late in life, IF that is his first wife.

[NVMojo]

33. a controlling, insecure asshat ...get me outta this place!!!

[smtpgirl]

92. Whew

I am with you NVMojo, too many controlling ass-hats all around

[mtnester]

35. Won't he be surprised at the Pearly Gates

So many surprises waiting to happen to SO many people.

I would like to have that job as helper at the gates...really I would, but I think I would get enough perverse pleasure out of it that heaven may not approve.

[DrGonzoLives]

36. Yeah, good luck, kiddo

Evans is in a fairly safe seat and the Illinois GOP will be spending resources beating Blago and keeping Hyde's seat and beating Bean. This guy is a sacrificial lamb.

[LincolnMcGrath]

37. You may be right. I would still like to see a DU-made firestorm

over these comments. hehe

Let him answer on the record.

[Doctor_J]

40. The Trib endorsing this guy tells you where they're at

politcally.

[LincolnMcGrath]

47. Dang Ol' Lib"Rull media!

:rofl:

[Doctor_J]

48. In fairness to the World's Greatest Newspaper,

they don't claim to be anyhting but a GOP organ. They endorse straight GOP for all state races and congressional races where both parties have candidates, and the last Dem they endorsed for president was LBJ. So they are right-wing, but they also don't make any claim of balance, which in a way makes them less hypocritical than Faux News.

[LincolnMcGrath]

51. W G N! You must be from the area.

Few folks remember the moniker World's Greatest Newspaper.

[Doctor_J]

56. I have lived here for almost my entire 49+ years.

I guess the fish wrap took World's Greatest Newspaper moniker off their masthead some time ago. But the radio station is just as RW as the paper. I don't patroniz either one.

[LincolnMcGrath]

57. Both WGN and WLS lost me along time ago

What a pukefest they both are.

[f-bush]

42. What a piece of shit!

[johnnyrocket]

45. Great, read C&L post on the "No sex" anti-choice crowd...

Good roundup of the mentality of these people, that's about to hit reality.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/06.html#a7412

[FreedomAngel82]

46. Just more proof to me these people

don't think I'm any better as a woman than trash to them. Just a sex slave to pump out babies and bake cookies. Ugh.

[LincolnMcGrath]

49. Get back in the kitchen!

And get them damn shoes off!


:hi:

[MuseRider]

52. I'll kick this.

Hey asshole, women are made up with a lot of parts and it is up to US, you freak, to determine what parts we want to use.

Sorry, I was going to post a bit ago but I think I just heard Malloy call Ann Coulter a "6 foot bag of snot." I have been laughing for the last few minutes and forgot what I was going to say.

[LincolnMcGrath]

54. I heard that comment on Malloy.

:rofl:

[Nutmegger]

58. KICK!

:kick:

[MODemocrat]

62. Men evidently were born strictly to be studs

So, by the same token, they should be banned and put in jail for having sex outside of marriage, or inside a marriage, if he can't produce a child every 9 months. Men should have no say in women's reproduction rights unless it is his wife, or unmarried daughter.

:spank:

[arcane1]

66. and they should be arrested for sex that doesn't result in pregnancy

spilling the seed and all that

I'm sure his wife would be happy to sleep with him only once per year

[Jade Fox]

78. They gotta hunt too!! Oh, and take out the garbage...

:evilgrin:

[LincolnMcGrath]

79. That laundry ain't gonna do itself!

:hi:

[LincolnMcGrath]

65. Kick for the evening crowd. Needs about 20 more votes to

really catch fire.

[never cry wolf]

67. His "baby maker" looks awful young compared to him

His web site says he married her in 1999, when he was 38. Hmmmm, maybe there was a previous Ms. Mowen? Maybe she couldn't have babies and was thus deemed unsuitable. If not, I am sure Mr. Mowen has abstained from intimate relations from other women for the 38 years of his life up until then, right? He surely would not have practiced safe sex in any form if he was not engaging in the act for the purpose of baby making.

[LincolnMcGrath]

68. I wondered the same thing. 38 is awful late for a first marriage.

[smtpgirl]

94. Mowen

Might have had a previous "Brokeback" relationship, closeted of course

[OzarkDem]

69. That POV persists on all sides

Regardless of who's arguing, the belief that women are primarily for procreation exists on both sides of the abortion debate.

How can you tell? Neither side cares at all about what happens to women after their childbearing years are over and their children are grown.

Once a woman's children are grown, she becomes invisible in the US. If she gets sick and has no health insurance, there's nothing for her. No benefits, no assistance, nothing. Its not until she reaches age 65 that the system begins to acknowledge a woman's needs again.

Its really very sad how many sick women in the US today are living in poverty and no one seems to care.

[happydreams]

71. Abortion is a class issue. The rich can

to other countries, or pay a doctor a little extra to do the service, whereas the poor are unable to do this. IT IS ALL about enslavement.

[RazzleDazzle]

72. It seems to me that people who are concerned about this

would be interested in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2497191

but maybe not. Mabye they don't get the connection.

[LincolnMcGrath]

74. I just gave it an 'R'

Will give it a 'K' soon. :hi:

[LincolnMcGrath]

75. Kick for Lane

[leftofthedial]

76. well, there's also nursing

how frigging unbelievable

we need to get these shitstains out of the gene pool.

[LincolnMcGrath]

77. I am hoping a pile of DUers bombard EdTibbets at the QCTimes.

Ed will get the message!

[mirandapriestly]

80. That kid is ugly. Sorry, I can't help it...nt

[ralps]

81. K & R

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[LincolnMcGrath]

82. Thank You ralps

[sendero]

83. What is today - Douchebag Speaks Day?

My god the fools are opening their mouths today, they don't care who knows what kind of walking peabrains they are. I simply refuse to believe there are so many fools among us.

[LincolnMcGrath]

87. You better believe it, before they take over.

Did you see the thread about how many states have proposed abortion legislation on the table?

[Triana]

84. 'women are cattle'

I had a dr in my early 20s that told me this same thing. When I heard that, I put on my clothes, walked out of the office, refused to pay and never went back. I told the receptionist and the dr on the way out why I was leaving without paying. I'm not going to PAY to be told I'm nothing but a breed sow. It's an insult and I told them I'd SUE THEM if they dared try to collect a dime from me. I also told the receptionist the dr. was a woman-hating pig.

[LincolnMcGrath]

95. Good for you!

[mzmolly]

85. He forgot uhm "scrub toilets"

:eyes:

[LincolnMcGrath]

86. Just a heads up.

The paper I culled that from often prints comments from the web board.

Have at it!

[Rocknrule]

90. To quote Family Guy

"Women are not people. They are devices built by the Lord Jesus Christ for our amusement."
:eyes:

[LincolnMcGrath]

93. Was that Peter or Stewie?

[Rocknrule]

97. Peter

[readmoreoften]

101. I love Family Guy.

Sucks when our cartoons have more sense than our elected officials.

[sakabatou]

99. Men are walking sperm factories...

So what's Mowen's point? That he HATES women.

[LincolnMcGrath]

100. No doubt Mowen is not far off from endorsing "Honor Killings"

as they practice in some whacked out countries.

[buddysmellgood]

102. YES! Finally someone gets it. Basically, that is exactly what women were

"created" "for"
But thank the creator that women can also cook, clean, stroke a pathetic ego, work 9 to 5, raise the product, and understand that men were basically created for...for...killing the other men that would impregnate our women with demon seed.
(I really shouldn't have to use the sarcasm smily, but :sarcasm:)

[LincolnMcGrath]

105. Kick for the night owls

[Book Lover]

108. Yeah, which is why we don't have higher brain functions or anything

And if this asshole ever viewed the literature PP gives women contemplating abortion (or even just visited the website), he would see that the potential negative psychological effects of abortion are discussed. Then again, why tell the truth when a lie is so better suited to your agenda!

[NMMNG]

110. Oh, I have thoughts on these comments

Unfortunately none of them are fit for mixed company.



On edit:

I am not anybody's offspring incubator. I will decide if and when I will reproduce. I am more than a uterus you misogynistic prat. Take your cave-man attitude and stick it up your backside.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

111. Actually, on that specific point I sort of agree with him...

The purpose for which women have been optimised is ensuring the survival of their genes by producing as many reproducing descendants as possible. So in that sense, yes, women *were* basically created to make babies.

Exactly the same thing is true of men, of course - more so, in fact: my understanding is that if you're sole goal is to ensure the survival of your genes then if you're a man your best strategy is to expend all your energy on making as many babies as possible; but if you're a woman you don't have that option so your best strategy is to spend some energy on helping the ones you do have reach reproducing age themselves. So men were basically created to make babies; women were basically created to make *and raise* babies (I think, although in some environments it may make more sense to help raising your offspring even if you're male).

However, all this tells us is what our bodies (and our instincts) are optimised to do. It doesn't have anything to do with how we *should* act.

[LincolnMcGrath]

112. I believe he was talking more biblical, than biological.

[Solly Mack]

113. I don't know curse words bad enough to express my anger...and I'm

fluent.

[LincolnMcGrath]

115. Post a comment in the QC Times web board section, or a LTTE

The QC Times regularly publishes snips form the web board area.

[DoYouEverWonder]

117. Well at least women have a purpose

What's his purpose in life, other the stupid and useless sperm donor?

[Stockholm]

119. I am amazed

that his wife does not beat the living snot out him for denigrating women (and his wife) in public like that.

Fundamentalist a**hole.

[PBass]

120. Jaw dropping stupidity. I'm surprised he didn't also add

that women were also primarily here to cook his food and mend his socks.

I hope this idiot catches holy hell for his dumb comments.

[Iris]

127. Martin Luther

said that the role of women is childbearing and if she dies during childbirth or dies because she is worn out from it, than that's ok because she is still fulfilling her role as a childbearer.

I grew up Catholic, but isn't Martin Luther the guy who broke from the church and established Protestantism?

[Stockholm]

128. Nice Strawman Iris (or something...)

But fine, I´ll play along:

Martin Luther was born 1483 and died 1546. Jim Mowen was born 1961. If your claim is true they are both wankers. What is your point?

[killerbush]

121. Another freaking idiot

heard from.

[LincolnMcGrath]

122. A freaking idiot that could be a US congressman soon.

:puke:

[SeaBob]

123. Baby Maker

Is that his wife or daughter? or some other relative?

[DarienComp]

124. “Let’s face it, women are created basically to give birth."

There it is, people. That's what every pro-life, Republican douchebag out there thinks, but will never say. Mr. Mowen is just being honest. Please, Mr. Mowen, feel free to be as honest as you want. I'll be over here watching you bomb with the voters.

[Iris]

126. "Abortion is everything against that."

This is enough to show me the guy is an idiot. What a completely meaningless statement. What is "everything" here?

[Javaman]

129. His wife looks terrified. nt

[Radical Activist]

131. I live two blocks outside this district.

Thankfully its currently held by a strong liberal who is likely to win easy re-election.

[Debi]

133. Should we be disposed of if we can no longer make babies? n/t

[LincolnMcGrath]

135. That is one crazy puke idiot isn't it Debi?

[Debi]

137. Glad I live in Iowa where we still have a chance at choice.....

Barely, now the Governor's race means more than ever!

[KamaAina]

134. "Let's face it, fundie repuke idiots are created basically to give pain"

to right-thinking folks who comprise 99% of the population.

[AX10]

136. "Let's face it, Lane Evans is going to kick your BIGOTED ass!!!"

:kick:

[LincolnMcGrath]

138. Kick.........Just because he is such an ass

[lukasahero]

140. And here I keep hoping this thread will just fade away

so I don't have to face what this loser has to say about me because I'm a woman another day. :(

Sorry, I know it's important to understand what's going on out there, but it's also important to understand how these comments make real women feel.

[LincolnMcGrath]

141. QUE?

This guy might get elected. I feel fairly safe that Evans will win, but who knows?

The only thing that will run asshats like this back underground is a very bright spotlight.

[earthboundmisfit]

139. This asshat just unconsciously chose his next incarnation.

I take comfort in knowing that, in his next life, Mr. Mowen will be poor, minority, and female.