Ed Shultz is pimping Hillary/Vilsack

[zulchzulu]

Gawd...I'd call him and take him to school on this tragic ticket choice in 2008, but he'd probably just play his little hot-headed act on me. Why waste time...

There would be no better ticket to LOSE in 2008 than this. Vilsack is boring and Hillary would be the best thing to happen to the Repugs in terms of mobilizing the Right and every damn Southerner that might sit on the fence in 2008.

If you think Fox News doesn't have anti-Hillary ads ready to roll...

We would lose to Allen or even Frist by a dozen electoral votes.

WTF...

[WA98296]

1. Ed's running her campaign isn't he? She's who the GOP wants to run

It's a loser.

If HC really cared about us, she wouldn't favor VERI-CHIP insertion into human beings (CHIPS).
She wouldn't be so well funded by COROPORATIONS.
She would LEAD by speaking the truth rather than floundering around trying to figure out a lame cause to chase. That's NOT leading, that is pathetic.

It's about time we realize, there is only one question left: People First, or Corporations First. Is she going to turn away from her corporate backers?

[BeachBuckeye]

2. Ed will pimp anyone who throws him a bone.

Its his nature.

[WA98296]

3. He's making an ass out of himself, it's over the top. Hard to take him...

seriously if he spends so much of his time pimping for ONE candidate.

His own remarks make Ed sound like nothing less than the Republican plant that he probably is. He must think he's dealing with a group with the same intellect as the Repubs he used to "entertain". He hasn't been away from that party very long, so it's hardly a stretch to question his motivation on his unwavering affection for H.C. The way he's behaving, I guess Ed's NOT planning on staying a self-proclaimed "progressive" talk show host for long. Probably depends on how long Hilary's in the race.

[StClone]

4. I don't need to say this

But any candidate has a big fat dossier muled together by Rover using our tax money. They will swift boat Hillary; they'll do it to every candidate we run. It is whether Hillary would make a good President. She has more pluses than minuses. Her move to the center was expected. Her vote on the war does not disqualify her.

Wiki is kinda wacky on this as of now. Warner is barely registering...so who are we running Gore, Kerry?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2008#Democrats

[xxqqqzme]

5. hillary & vilsack are dlc tools.

they are not leaders or they would ALREADY BE LEADING!

[iconoclastNYC]

6. She's too corporate, too centrist....to insidery.

And I don't thinks she can win.

[NCarolinawoman]

7. I cannot imagine knocking on doors here in North Carolina

to get people out to vote for this ticket. I would have to be prepared for a lot of people to laugh in my face.

[Totally Committed]

8. He's a DLC-shillmeister...

I turned him off a long time ago.

Hillary/Vilsack, Hillary/Warner, Hillary/anyone the DLC picks will lose and we will be stuck with another 8 years of Republican rule. Come to think of it, even if we win (which I really doubt is possible, but if we do...) the policies and legislation that will result would be almost as bad as if the Republicans win, anyway... :puke:

No thanks,

TC

[snowbear]

9. Eddie ROCKS - altho' I hate that he likes Hillary as a candidate!

And the original poster is correct, he really does like Hillary.

The good thing about Eddie though is that he whole-heartedly welcomes his callers to debate him on the issue of Hillary running. He also discusses the topic on his forum and allows the listeners who disagree with him (which is pretty much all of them) to state why they dislike her until they're blue in the face.

In addition, he hosts live chats every 2 or 3 months and you can chew his ass out on Hillary if you want. He'll explain the reasons that he thinks she can be a contender and you can tell him how full of crap you think he is. He'll tell you, "hey, I don't know who I'll vote for yet.. but I think she's done a great job and she knows how to kick ass"

I've never heard one of his listeners yet that shares his opinion on Hillary, but damn.. it's not like she's his only topic!

I'm sure not going to tune him out just because he supports Hillary. He also rambles on to no end about how much he likes Kerry these days. Seriously NON-stop about how proud of Kerry is is at his fighting spirit lately.

Ed was tough on Kerry when he let the swiftboaters go on without retaliating. The more pissed off Kerry gets now though, the more Eddie loves him!

I listen to Eddie almost every day and I've never heard him mention the DLC --- EVER.

"DLC-shillmeister"

I would personally HATE Hillary to be our nominee.. but I have to ask the NC lady that said she'd have North Carolina residents laughing in her face at a Hillary/whoever ticket.. don't they laugh in your face when you ask them if they still support Mr. Bush??? If not -- WHY NOT????

[Totally Committed]

12. He doesn't have to mention the DLC -- he espouses everything they do.

I know you love "Big Eddie". I don't. Can we leave it at that?

Thanks.

TC

[AJH032]

10. I have to disagree

I don't think a Hillary administration would propose and pass legislation similar to that of the Bush administration. In fact, I think it would be like night and day.

[Totally Committed]

13. I respectfully disagree.

eom

TC

[DrGonzoLives]

18. Uh...

No, sorry. Believe it or not, just because your name isn't Mike Malloy or Randi Rhodes, that does not mean you are DLC.

[TayTay]

11. He is this week.

He is also friendly to a lot of other candidates. If you don't like it, wait until next week and Ed will be praising some one else. I kind of like that, seeing as it is so early.

[WildEyedLiberal]

14. While that ticket makes me puke in my mouth a little....

... at the end of the day I prefer Ed, who supports a broad spectrum of Democrats, over a loudmouth like Mike Malloy, who insists using upon the insulting, sexist, and homophobic "pink tutu Democrats" line as if it were actually clever.

I'd really prefer Ed not shill for Hillary - I have NO idea where he gets the idea that she's a "fighter" (panderer is more like it), but at the same time, when you consider Ed's target demographic, it's MUCH better for heartland, middle of the road people to hear positive things about Democrats as an alternative to the hatred and lies of Rush. Ed appeals to centrists who do not like Bush but who would be equally turned off by strident AAR personalities.

So I'm torn. I recognize the valuable service Ed provides, and John Kerry has given some GREAT interviews with him in which he raved about how much he respects Kerry; but at the same time it's gross that he supports Hillary (and VILSACK WTF?). When Hillary actually makes a stand on principle instead of politics, Ed, get back to me.

[zulchzulu]

15. I agree

Ed Schultz does have a pretty wide target demographic, which I welcome. Overall, he is pretty good but does tend to misinterpret some callers' intentions and sometimes appears to not have done his homework on some major issues.

The classic example is his support for a Hillary 2008 ticket. He doesn't seem to understand that it would have the most mobilizing effect with many right-wing voters (and even moderates) that would never want her in the White House.

I like Hillary on most issues, but she is clearly not the one to run in 2008. She would be fantastic in a cabinet position in the Kerry administration... Health and Human Services or Education... :->

[PBass]

16. Whichever candidate runs on the Dem ticket will get Swift Boated

so if that is your main criteria, forget about finding a candidate... any candidate. There isn't a Dem candidate in the world who won't get slandered... that's just how they play politics.

Lets suppport the candidates we like, and not based on how much "ammo" the GOP has against them, or which ones the GOP "wants" the Dems to run.

Buck up, guys. We need to have stout hearts.

Whoever said Hillary isn't tough enough to withstand a GOP swift boating, I have to disagree 100%. Hillary is definitely tough. She's not as progressive as I would like, but she is good under fire (IMO).

Don't let the GOP decide who our candidates will be!!!!

[zulchzulu]

17. True...but.....

You have to think who would mobilize the most people in the opposition that would come out to vote against a candidate.

Yep, the 2008 election is going to be dirty as hell, but when the week before the election comes, what candidate will most likely make people want to vote against even if their candidate is someone like Allen (R/VA) or Frist....let alone McCain.

My thinking is Hillary...she would unite many to go out and vote against her on the Right. She can be as tough as she wants, but in the end, she would probably be the greatest mobilizer for those who never voted to vote against her.

[SteelBird]

22. I agree with you guys about Hilliary

Don't listen to Schutlz but know that he does have a more middle of the road type audience, my grandmother likes him. About Hiliary, I don't think she would take Sec of Education or HHS, it would be viewed as a demotion. I am sure though that if Kerry were elected, he'd have a great cabinet. If not Kerry then I think I will support Mark Warner for the nomination, I think he'd make a great candidate since he has good crossover appeal and he was successful here with a GOP legislature, if we can get Congress back, I think Warner would be fantastic. I would like to learn more about his stances on foreign policy of course especially things like Sudan.

[zulchzulu]

23. Welcome to DU!

Lots of ideas floating around...jummp in...the water's fine.

[zulchzulu]

19. Schultz is at it again...he just doesn't get it

I may call and school the feller...

[AtomicKitten]

20. And Mike Malloy will hang up on people that mention Hillary.

[Dr Fate]

21. Ed is always openly pro Hillary. I still like him anyway. n/t

n/t

[zulchzulu]

24. I like him too...but...

...sometimes he is off the mark...c'est la vie.