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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 06:46 PM
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How important is it to be "politically correct" regarding Moussaoui?
Seriously...I keep reading the trial updates and the "Allah Akbar, praise Osama, death to America" bullshit and would it be terribly WRONG for me to say something like "At the end of his trial, if it is the will of the court, SMOKE his motherf**king ASS?"

Is it WRONG for me to not say "thank you sir, may I have another?"

Just askin'...how concerned should I be with his rights, with the sanctity of his life, with this pig? It's a STRUGGLE, folks...



:patriot:

Moussaoui had dream to hit W.House: witness

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060308/ts_nm/security_moussaoui_dc

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (Reuters) - September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui talked of his dream to fly an airplane into the White House more than a year before the hijacked aircraft attacks, a witness linked to al Qaeda testified in federal court on Wednesday.

Fazi Bafana, formerly a treasurer of a unit of Jemaah Islamiah, which is linked to al Qaeda, revealed discussion of that dream in videotaped testimony played during Moussaoui's sentencing trial.

Moussaoui, 37, has already pleaded guilty to conspiracy in connection with the September 11 attacks, but said he took no part in those attacks and was to be part of a second wave of attacks. The trial is to determine whether he is to be executed for his crime or will be jailed for life. Bafana, who said he had been involved in planning possible attacks on U.S. military installations, said he was arrested in Singapore in December 2001 and ordered by Singapore authorities to testify and cooperate in the Moussaoui case.

He described meeting in mid-2000 a man he knew only as "John," but who he later identified as Moussaoui, and whom he said he had allowed to stay at his home in Kuala Lumpur. "He told me he had a dream. He dreamed to fly an airplane ... into the White House," Bafana said. "He told me he informed (Osama bin Laden) what he dreamed and (bin Laden) said go ahead. He asked me to assist him."
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 06:50 PM
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1. You should revere life even if you think he's an evil pig
Your values are important. Values define you. I know you're angry but why take his life. IMHO I would feel more punished having to rot in jail until I did die.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:05 PM
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2. I could handle his rotting in jail...
...and the simple reality of it is that many people would probably love to see him get a lethal injection, and instead speak up for his rights.

I have an immediate reaction to this scum, and I question that reaction...hence this thread.

And in my heart, yeah...when is it "right" to take a life?

But I've got to say, I'm so fucking sick of this "Death To America" shit that I'm slowly losing concern over WHY people like this THINK we should "die."

Just my rant...

:patriot:
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:10 PM
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4. The only problem with this is
at least they are shouting it from the rooftops. We live under an f'ing administration that IS causing a real death to America. :shrug: BTW, you can't help how you feel. The whole thing has had me a tensed up mess since the moron cheated his way in the first time.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:09 PM
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3. I don't even "get" politically correct" since most people use it to...
Justify being pricks. There is, of course, a HUGE problem with political correctness on the Right, too. The whole "'Happy Holidays' is a war on Christmas" crap was political correctness--using word games as a short cut to thought control. There's nothing wrong with fantasizing a slow painful death on terrorists--so long as you don't actually engage in or condone torture. Fantasies are healthy, so calling a motherfucker a motherfucker is hardly wrong. Calling for his head on a pike is cool, so long as you're not a judge or prosecutor--or so long as you aren't actually advocating that we stoop to HIS level of barbarism...

Political correctness is a paper dragon invented by Rush Limbaugh to find creative ways to bitch about a nonexistant liberal elite. It's pure psychological projection, in my opinion. They aren't defying liberal elitists... they're really defying their mothers who used to make them sit up straight and quit whining like little brats when they lose dessert for not eating their veggies.

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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:19 PM
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6. If I were to be totally honest...and that's what I'm attempting here...
...if the trial came to an end and the death penalty became the verdict, I honestly can't see myself traveling to the scene to participate in a candlelight vigil, holding a "Spare Zacarias" sign.

If his life-long dream was to fly a plane into a building, maybe we could find a building scheduled for demolition and a plane scheduled for the scrapyard and help Zacarias bring his dream to reality.

All I see right now is that this motherf**king scumbag has a daily forum in which to shout his "Praise Osama" bullshit. I want to hear him yell that when he flies into the aforementioned building. THAT would be some impressive screaming.

:grr:
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:18 PM
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5. I have the same dilemma.
For the most part I'm against the death penalty. If I were faced with life in prison or death, I'd pick death. It'd be nice to know which he would prefer and do the opposite.:dilemma:
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:22 PM
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7. Fry him
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:28 PM
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8. So.. Is America about Executing People for they THINK of Us?
Or are we about prosecuting for DEEDS?

Right now, the whole entire fucking world hates our guts.. for good reason. should we just nuke the whole world for what they think of us?

Moussaoui didn't do anything. He only thought evil deeds.

1984 - Thought Gestapo, Welcome To America.. The most fascist regime in the world.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:36 PM
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10. I don't think "Moussaoui didn't do anything" is an accurate statement...
And yes, executing someone for what they WANTED to do versus what they actually DID is bogus.

"Right now, the whole entire fucking world hates our guts.. for good reason"...

Absolute utter fucking bullshit.

Sorry.

I respect your right to your opinion. There's no good reason for flying a motherfucking airplane into a building filled with people. If you KNOW of one, post it HERE, and we'll all be enlightened.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:29 PM
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9. I've much the same feelings, but in the end, I want to see him rot in
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 07:30 PM by blondeatlast
prison.

It comes down to not allowing myself to sink to his kind of level; where spilled blood can satisfy me that justice has been done.

I can't go there--but as God is my witness (sincerely here), it is a mighty struggle on my part.

Edit: typos.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:49 PM
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11. And THAT is what I respect...you NAILED it...
..."the struggle." THAT shows honesty. THAT shows a thought process, not simply saying things so people will like us and not think that we are "bad people."

Ultimately it is best if we all arrive at what we believe to be right...

...but it's a journey.

I'll never accept that whatever "anger" Bin Laden had toward the U.S. was "justified" by the loss of 3000 innocent lives.

Maybe Moussaoui will go down in the history books as a loser, scumbag wannabe. Maybe he wouldn't have had the balls to get into that plane if the opportunity presented itself. It's EASY for him to shout his "Praise Osama" BULLSHIT while he's in SHACKLES. We'll never know, because all he seems to be able to do is shout "Allah Akbar" as he leaves the court. I see a loudmouthed P.O.S. coward. That's all I see.

:patriot:
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