Has any Republican suffered from the election problems we've been having?

[wysiwyg]

I'm wondering if voting problems we've been having since 2000 are a result of unintentional mistakes and other unavoidable problems or if, as some say, the Republicans really have corrupted elections in this country. I've heard of Democrats having problems in this area but what about Republicans? Are they having problems too? Did problems like these happen prior to 2000 to any extent? I'd really like to know.

It seems that there have been big problems with exit polling during elections since 2000. Has any Republican shown far ahead in exit polling lost in a surprise turnaround once the votes are tabluated? Bush voters in particular don't seem to want to take part in exit polls.

I know that Democratic voters have reported situations where they try to vote for a Democrat but the Republican gets selected instead. This is generally explained with problems in mapping areas of touch screens to particular candidates. Have such problems occurred where the Democrat is incorrectly chosen?

Have the actions of a Democratic election commissioner in any state resulted in shortages of electronic voting machines, and long lines, in Republican precincts?

Have problems with memory cards or tabluating machines resulted in Republican votes getting lost or even recording negative votes for a Republican candidate during the counting? I've seen reports of a Democratic candidate's votes going down temporarily but not any Republicans'.

Have any Republicans consistantly gained votes during manual recounts where errors are discovered?

Have Republicans lost in suprise upsets after their districts were changed to electronic voting?

Does anyone remember Republican majority districts having an above average number of no-votes recorded?

Has any Democrat-run company provided information resulting in large numbers of Republican voters being incorrectly purged from the voting rolls?

An audit in Pennsylvania tested Diebold's AccuVote by recounting primary votes. It found that all Republican vote totals were correct but almost all Democratic candidate votes were wrong; the only correct Democratic total happened to be a zero. The problem was corrected with a firmware update. Does anyone know of this type of thing occurring where all of the Republican totals happen to be wrong?

Are any manufacturers of voting equipment known to be run by Democrats? Are any NOT run by Republicans?

Are any Democrats holding office opposed to a paper trail for electronic voting to facilitate recounts?

Are any Republicans FOR a paper trail?

I'd like to know if anyone know of anything that really makes these problems "bipartisan".

[Danieljay]

1. Only if they lose..like in Washington state... then its an issue.

[wysiwyg]

3. Did the Republicans give any specific cause of their problems?

[Danieljay]

12. they claimed voter fraud and miscounts. And Lost anyway. n/t

[MissWaverly]

2. There was article at TheState.com

South Carolina's Home Page 4/29/05

Human error is being blamed for a mistake that overturned results from Tuesday's Republican
primary in a special election for Kershaw County Council.

Unoffical vote totals that night showed 3,208 of District 2's 5,128 registered voters had cast ballots in the Republican and Democratic primaries. A manual recount Thursday proved only 768 votes were cast.

The new numbers mean Republican Tony Mike Davis - who went home Tuesday believing he won the primary - was defeated by Ned Towell by seven votes. Sammie Tucker Jr. remains the
democratic primary winner, defeating Kenneth Carter by 49 votes.

A new electronic voting system being used in 15 counties in South Carolina calls for a cartridge from each precinct to be plugged into a computer to count the votes.

"When the catridges were being read they were mistakenly read...again," Baum said. "And
so you had what looked like additional numbers."

I included more than the usual because it was posted on a government website, and I
don't think they have the article still available on-line.

[wysiwyg]

5. Here's what I found

"Initial results for the County Council seat showed 2440 phantom votes -- 3208 votes, 768 voters. The corrected results overturned the Democratic primary."

http://www.votersunite.org/info/content/newmessup-12.asp

It says that someone ran the counts for the some of the recorded votes multiple times.

[MissWaverly]

6. Thanks for posting info on it

I expanded info I had from the article I had saved

:-)

[Wilms]

4. I hope you don't send me link diving.

I came across three elections whose results were overturned after a recount.

In each case, the culprit was Ballot Definition Settings of ES&S OpScans. (Note: TouchScreens are just as vulnerable to this problem and more likely to NOT be detected!)

In at least one of those cases, the Republican became the victor.

While evoting is very hackable, it's also error-prone. Malice is not necessarily required.

[wysiwyg]

8. Do you remember what state the overturned election was?

The whole malice-vs-screwup thing is what I'm wondering about. I've never really looked for Republican "victims" of these problems and just want to make up my mind.

I find plenty of links about Republicans being told they won but losing after the votes were examined but no recent details on the reverse. I found one from 1971 and I've heard about Lyndon Johnson's tricks back "in the day" but I'm looking for recent examples but, of course, the web sites summarizing these problems are generally run by those of us on the left.

Do you remember the state where the overturned election you mentioned occurred?

[Wilms]

10. Went diving and only found one where the Dem ultimately won.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=4640&mesg_id=4660

Perhaps Kentucky or Texas were the other two I had seen.

Sorry to not be of more help.

[John Q. Citizen]

7. Sure and undoubtedly Republicans are effected. Just nowhere near

as often as Democrats.

The Seattle WA election center found 500 votes that decided the Governor's race in favor of the Dems and overturning the apparent Repo win.

The 'Phoenix New Times' has a ton of on line stories chronicling the extraordinarily strange events surrounding a Republican primary there. Both winner and loser were Republican.

A small percentage of the "glitches" reported on election days have adversely effected Republicans.
How ever, with the large numbers of votes counted electronically, one would assume a true glitch would be random and probably produce a non-sense number, and also any "glitches" of a vote switching nature would occur in close to a 50%/50% pattern. Since this is not the case (it's rougely 90/10 pro Republican) one can only surmise there is more there than meets the eye.

I think we are being ripped off in a number of ways.

[AmyStrange]

9. There's the house vote for majority leader...

Remember that. More votes than there were republican congressman/ woman...

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[Zinfandel]

11. The republican owned machines have always gone in favor ...

of republicans, whenever there's been discrepancies, obvious fraud and manipulations.

Yet the democrats still keep their head in the sand...its amazing to me what pussies they are!

Shit, idiots here still don't and won't believe these republican owned machines are stealing elections for the republicans...Where ever there is a republican Governor and republican Secretary of State counting the votes, using their machines there have been problems... (California is next).

Just ask the democratic voters of Alaska, Ohio, Georgia, Florida, etc.

[Amaryllis]

13. Election fraud has been around forever. See Andrew Gumbel's book

Steal This Vote (although I totally disagree with his conclusion that they couldn't have moved enough votes to change the 2004 election ) but he does a good job of laying out the history of dirty elections in this country, and it is quite a checkered history involving both parties. However, the republicans control the voting system companies so they can do it bigger, better, faster, and less detectably than ever before. They are ALSO aided by Dems such as Conny McCormack, director of elections in LA county, and Cathy Cox, SOS in GA, and Linda Lamone, director of elections in MD, all of whom are very cozy with Diebold and avid defenders of both Diebold and e-voting in general. Conny's photo is even on the Diebold promo brochure.

See Bradblog for recent events in MD and CA. Both states have major problems with Dems pushing Diebold and attacking election officials who try to do something about it. Conny was one of Kevin Shelley's most vocal critics when he decertified Diebold and required a paper record in CA.