ENOUGH ABOUT HILLARY - ENOUGH ABOUT 2008 - FOCUS ON 2006!

[UrbScotty]

We do have elections in 2006, right?

I mean, based on what I've seen on these forums, you'd think we DIDN'T have an election this fall.

Just checking.

[killerbush]

1. Yeah we need to focus on 2006, but

2008 is the time the Democrats should be focusing on too. we need to get the right candidate, and the right issues. No time like the present to do just that.

[Lerkfish]

6. its a purposeful Rovian distraction, frankly.

and I have fallen for it myself, but the more I think about it, the ONLY reason repubs would keep bringing up Clinton as prez candidate is to distract us from attacking republican corruption.

[AtomicKitten]

10. You are right on the money with that

being the brilliant person you obviously are.

It absolutely reeks of Rove, yet some people are so easily caught up in his trap.

[Lerkfish]

20. yes, but it doesn't change that I think she's the absolute wrong person

to run.

[AtomicKitten]

21. maybe, maybe not

However, her fate will be decided in the Democratic primary.

[Lerkfish]

25. sure, as long as we're ALLOWED to have a choice in the primary

that's my big issue on this topic.

[AtomicKitten]

27. I assure you there will be a primary.

It's funny because I think some don't realize they are preaching to the choir here on DU; I doubt there are many here that will vote for Hillary in the primary (I won't), but that doesn't seem to be enough. They would be better served to ignore the MSM, jackals and opportunists that they are, only interested in sensationalism with no substance. We will cross the primary bridge when it comes.

[catmother]

2. agreed. elections are less than 8 months away.

:toast:

[TreasonousBastard]

3. Ya'd think so, wouldn't ya, and...

I am convinced that the other side is pushing '08 to get '06 off the radar screen. Anyone pissing about '08 is just playing into their hands.

NOTHING will be done for '08 until after this year's elections and all the serious players see which way the winds are blowing and how the new power blocks are set up. The press and internet gasbags can talk all they want, but it's the sound and fury signifying nothing...

I betcha next January we start seeing a whole bunch of new names popping up, and the January after that the field will look nothing like what we see now.

[stray cat]

4. The republicans are capable of strategizing for both

Dems need to be capable of a similar amount of strategic planning and vision. The republican party didn't change overnight - years of strategizing has gone into gaining control of the country and the media.

[xultar]

5. Wow. You'd think all the impeachment voices would be on 2k6.

No impeachment without the house.

I don't know why they are all on HC. Well Rethugs are very obsessed with her. Seems they want us to be also.

[LoZoccolo]

7. Good observation.

I mean, based on what I've seen on these forums, you'd think we DIDN'T have an election this fall.

I think this might be because a lot of people here:

1. Don't get involved.
2. Spend a lot of time watching the news and hanging out here instead, so they don't pay attention to their local elections.

It's kind of a sedentary activist lifestyle that I think a lot of people need to overcome.

[Blaze Diem]

8. THANK YOU For this post!!

I've been talking about this same subject and can't seem to keep people from veering off into the Pres election of 2008.
That isn't even a subject at this point.
There may NOT be any election of 2008 if BushCo has anything more to say ...a rabbit WILL be pulled out of the GOP Bushboy's magic hat, be certain of that come Pres election time.

This year..NOVEMBER..is thee most critical election of our future.
The shift in power in our House & Senate has to occur before we can hope for any fair Presidential election.
I hope Clark, speaking in North Dakota's Dem Convention and all other voices across this great nation from now until the election results are in, along with those who are fighting to have paper trail voting and Howard Dean's grassroots style movement takes hold and removes BushCo's blank check for the next two years.
ONLY THEN FOLKS...can we mend what has been torn from our Constitution and hold the criminals and treasonous BushCo Family et.al., accountable.
It will NEVER come to pass without the change through this year's election in November.

Thanks for making this an urgent subject...2008 won't happen without critical change in 2006.

AMEN
Blaze

[UrbScotty]

19. You're welcome (nt)

[JohnnyRingo]

9. I agree...most of the focus on who's running in '08 comes from repubs

It's a distraction and a ruse to avoid the more obvious topic of what's at stake this fall.

Most elections since I was young boiled down to someone I never even heard of or didn't expect. '08 may well turn out the same.

[JohnWxy]

11. Good Point.

[rhombus]

12. 2006 will determine how we fare in 2008

Remember that. We take the House, and then start investigating all the cover-ups by this administration.

The American people will wake up quick.

[JNelson6563]

13. The dead weight is perpetuating the crap

and I say leave them to sit in their piles of poop (brawl threads), it keeps them out of the way of the real activists who have much work to do.

Julie

[Beacho]

14. Hear! Hear!

more threads like this please

[election_2004]

15. As long as the MSM keeps perpetuating the myth....

...that Hillary is supposedly our "savior," the only responsible thing to do is to vocally maintain that Senator Clinton is not Ms. Inevitable, in terms of 2008. Otherwise, people will have been conditioned to believe there aren't any choices when the Democratic presidential primaries come rolling around.

[AtomicKitten]

16. MSM is merely echoing the Rovian meme

assisting in erecting Hillary as the straw-woman for both sides of the aisle, and it's pretty pathetic that some on the left are taking the bait.

[election_2004]

17. They have different motivations

The Rovian RW wants to use Hillary to bring out the fundie base en masse to vote against her (and, by association, Democratic candidates all the way down the ticket). They don't expect her to actually get elected president...but if she does, they fully intend to use her as a red herring for 4-8 years to continue to mobilize against progressive Democrats.

By contrast, the MSM merely wants to create the "excitement" of having Hillary in the General Election against a stick-to-his-beliefs hardline conservative Republican...but if Senator Clinton were to win the General Election, they would not be disappointed because it would generate sensationalistic ratings and guarantee themselves 4-8 years of partisan deadlock and exploiting that "exciting" impasse between the Hillary Democrats and the staunch "values-based" Republican establishment.

Disgusting (and counterproductive) intentions, all around.

[AtomicKitten]

18. well let 'em hammer Hillary all they want

She's used to it and it will provide subterfuge for a better Dem nominee.

[election_2004]

22. I'd normally agree with you....

...if it wasn't for the kool-aid that so many Democratic Party leaders are swallowing...buying into the superficial talking points that putting Hillary & Bill back into the White House will somehow magically fix this country's problems and somehow gain the Democratic Party (as a whole) an upsurge of popular, bipartisan support from American voters.

Pie-in-the-sky delusions.

This left-leaning thought process is a byproduct of the "pro-Hillary" GOP spin, and the (separate, but equally repulsive) "pro-Hillary" MSM spin. Unfortunately, too many mainstream Democrats are taking the bait.

People want quick, easy fixes - - band-aids to solve all the problems Bunnypants has created for us. Sorry, but there are no expedient solutions.

[AtomicKitten]

24. I don't know where you get the idea

that Dem party leaders believe what we need is a Clinton fix. I don't think they've expressed anything resembling that. IMO the Hillary paranoia is a result of drinking the kool-aid.

If anything, Dem leaders are looking to the elections later this year which, IMO, are infinitely more important. All it will take is a majority in one house of Congress and then investigations will begin in earnest followed shortly thereafter by a long overdue reckoning.

[blondeatlast]

23. Word. nt

[Catchawave]

26. She has her Senate seat to protect this fall

and I wish her all the best :patriot:

I am vexed with all the general Democratic bashing on DU lately. I wasn't aware how hated my fav candidate to challenge George Allen was in OTHER states :cry:

And the talking points and attacks where all from the Rove Handbook! I see it happen to other state candidates as well :cry: :cry:

[proud patriot]

28. thanks for the reminder

:D