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pinkpops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 08:34 AM Original message |
John Kerry/Jane Fonda smear |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. That's just a taste of what's to come |
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Dark Star (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 08:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I agree. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. He sure does have a lot to deal with... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Those really hurt Kerry in Iowa and NH |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. ooooo! |
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isbister (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Jane Fonda |
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deminflorida (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Oh, I have nothing against Jane Fonda... |
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isbister (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. the Dukakis ass kicking |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. if he got a good look in 2000, then why did he tell us to stop crying in |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Wouldn't want Gore to run in 2004 and spoil his ambition |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
94. Well I do |
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Tim_in_HK (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Are you talking about |
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Dark Star (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I would guess Kerry's |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
91. Guess is right |
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isbister (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I don't think she's |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. The creed is passed down among generations |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
45. I hate to say this |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Was this the picture? |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. I haven't looked in a while |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
95. I believe it. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. She certainly is among a small but VERY vocal number of |
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Myra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. There's a difference between a smear and an embarassing truth. |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Err, 'scuse me, but I seriously doubt |
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Atlant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Nowadays. what difference does it matter whether or not it's true? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. So, let's not defend the protesters of that dirty war against smears. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
100. Thanks. |
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Tim_in_HK (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. No, what he did do |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Try Googling "John Kerry" with "Jane Fonda" |
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isbister (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Try Googling bush for that time period |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. That argument went nowhere in the 2000 election... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
58. anti-war group funded by Jane Fonda? |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
43. talk about your elecatable guys, eh np |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
57. Wrong! Valid connection to be drawn between Fonda and the organization |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. WP Transcript: Historian Douglas Brinkley on Kerry & Vietnam |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Hearsay from a writer |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. The book was written with "the full cooperation of John Kerry." |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Innuendo |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. "Kerry standing on the back of a pickup truck with Jane Fonda... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. It was Brinkley's book |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
70. true |
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Myra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I direct your attention to posts #10 and 11, and again make a distinction |
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stuzzy (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. If this is true... |
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stuzzy (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Also |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
80. Context from the article about Brinkley's book |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Well first, thanks to all who clarified the connection- |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. I got in trouble around here a few arguments ago because I |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
69. You can't get off that easy mike |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. I have nothing to say to you that has not been said already n/t |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. dish it out |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. And what about the Jane Fond financing of his organization? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. The organization was not John Kerry's. He was a member. |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. "He was a member." |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Boston Globe: Kerry "became the face of the organization" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. From the Globe article |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Don't give me this crap |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Kerry's book, Tour of Dury, mentions him being with Fonda |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. The transcript refers to hearsay not proof. |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. It's really too bad |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
42. And where was Dr. Dean during this time period??? |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
86. The RNC cannot use this charge against Dean. Apparently |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Has it occurred to you that most Americans think that war was wrong? |
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deminflorida (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
17. This is what they will use, and it will work to!!! |
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deminflorida (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. You see Kerry really has no Veterans Appeal... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. Do you think John Kerry's protests against Nixon's bloody war |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
38. While I Support Kerry's Right To Protest |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
56. I don't think his history is so honorable |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
87. Senators John Kerry (D-MA) and John McCain (R-AZ), |
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bigfishsmallpond (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
22. John Kerry/Sean Penn smear |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. John Kerry and Morgan Fairchild stories would go even farther... |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
37. The people who lived through that 30 year old stuff are still around |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
26. It seems the dittoheads |
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Tim_in_HK (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
28. Please provide a link to your paper |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The Boston Herald has a mention |
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Tim_in_HK (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Thanks |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. That story can't be trusted because it lies about what John said |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
33. Jane isn't the lightning rod she used to be |
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javadu (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I am 34 and I have heard about this |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
65. Fonda had tangential ties to the anti-war organization |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
88. Just look it up. References are all over the internet. n/t |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I'd like you to find a source that doesn't rely on hearsay and innuendo |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. And if we presented a photo, you'd say it was Photoshopped (nt) |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Yet, you haven't |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
44. when I think of Jane Fonda |
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edzontar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
98. Klute was very good too. Jane was a very talented and lovely actress |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
101. To all those who answered |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
34. The people who will respond to this kind of smear |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
36. Do you think those smears will work against Kerry?? |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Where is the "smear"? These are all well documented charges |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. The Kerry/Fonda Connection Appears in Internet Encyclopedia |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. At this time, VVAW is said to have received significant financial support |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
46. Who got smeared? Jane has backbone. Kerry doesn't. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. When your argument fails |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. Please elucidate your obfuscation. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
47. It took months of attacks to bring down Dean- |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
49. Yes, link please |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
82. Boston Herald has a story on it |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
50. Is she still an issue? |
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TrueBlueDem (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. "Hanoi Jane" is still an issue with the career military folks I work with. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Great bunch of guys |
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edzontar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
97. OK. I'm going to defend Kerry, and Jane too, on this one. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. i honor the "old john kerry" |
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