Dems gotta grow some berries if they want to take the house or senate.

[splat@14]

They can't do crap like cower from Feingold's stance and pull people like Hackett from any campaign. I know its old news but it pisses me off to watch this sort of shit happen.

SPLAT!

[Daylin Byak]

1. As for Hackett.....

As Alan Colmes said: "no one cares" and since Alan Colmes basically speaks for all Democrats, no one cares about the Hackett situtation in Ohio.

That was Sarcasm.

[European Socialist]

2. I think you have about 99% agreement here.

[MH1]

4. If so, I'm proud to be in that other 1%.

See my post below.

I agree Bush should be censured. I couldn't believe it when I heard that Feingold blindsided the whole caucus with this though. But so many reputable sources are reporting that now, I have to believe it. Even though it is un-frickin-believable.

If the Carpetbagger and Kevin Drum are right, Feingold just really effed up, IMO.

[wisteria]

6. Yeah, I would say you are actually 100% correct -he effed up! n/t

[MH1]

3. Suggest you read this

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6864.html

Did Feingold REALLY blindside the whole Dem caucus?

If he did, did he REALLY expect them to follow him like children following the Pied Piper?

[Brothaman2k]

5. How could they be blindsided

By an action they should have taken months and months ago?!

Torture of prisoners in a war which was essentially billed as "the right thing to do"... billions of dollars being spent to fight a war in a country that is starting to self destruct while victims of Katrina are still being screwed by insurance companies who don't want to ante up, all while the Attorney General of the US stands silent... violation of the constitution by taking a dump on the right to privacy... an official version of the attacks on 9/11 that make about as much sense as the "magic bullet" theory of the Kennedy assassination...

All that and democrats just stand silent nd let this country be stripped of all the concepts and precepts that make it America... It's patently pathetic and if Feingold caught them by surprise it's because the light of what should've been done long ago burned their eyes after spending so much time in the dark caused by burying their head in the sand.

[wisteria]

7. You have to choose your battles carefully when you don't have

the numbers or the upperhand. There are also right time and wrong times to strike. Feingold picked the wrong time. He isn't wrong about the legality of the wiretapping just about when he chose to strike. This was not a good move!

[splat@14]

8. Disagree. Politically maybe some were blind sided but wrong is wrong.

The ethics of it stinks. It stinks when we found out about it and it stinks now. Feingold quite rightly said that it isn't political, its legal, and I agree. I don't think legality should be held up for politics.

The US won't bargain with terrorist, it shouldn't bargain with criminals either.....and I gotta go...gotta cut the rant short, etc!!! But appreciate all the comments!!

Cheers MH1! Give `em hell,
Splat