V for Vendetta... OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lost-in-FL]

It is a must see... Very, very political. You just have to see it!!

[radio4progressives]

1. just saw it... it was fantastic..

I highly recommended it.

[babylonsister]

2. How sci-fi is it? I'm not a fan usually. nt

[Lost-in-FL]

3. No Sci-fi...

Current events with a twist (big twist)... you really have to see it.

[radio4progressives]

14. When the book was written it was Sci-Fi, but NOT anymore!

most of the "sci-fi" stuff is today's technology and reality.. (unfortunately)

the only "sci-fi" stuff really is the combat, and a few other things i don't want to mention cuz it'll ruin it for ya...

but it's not like heavy sci-fi- it's mix of reality and fantasy, about equal portions. you have to suspend belief on a few things, but you know, it's freaking movie!

and an EXCELLENT one too i might add.

[instantkarma]

4. !!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

??????????????????????

[johnnypneumatic]

5. it was great!

brought me to tears. Bush supporters won't get it, they'll be bored because they don't have any interest in culture or history, and don't have a problem with torture, or anti-gay bigotry, or a police state, or lies, or a theocracy, or mass murder, or concentration camps.

[radio4progressives]

16. yeah.. let's be careful not to spoil it for those who haven't had a chance

to see it yet.. it's hot.

[jwirr]

6. Movie?

[Lost-in-FL]

7. Yes... here's the link

http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/

[qazplm]

8. It was good overall...

a little hit you over the head with a hammer-ish but overall pretty good.

[radio4progressives]

17. hit what too over of the head? you mean the fascism?

I thought they dealt with fairly well, i didn't think it was over the top.. for me it was handled just how i would have expected..

i never read the book (never heard of it until hearing about the film) going to have to do that now..

[Duer 157099]

9. Totally agree, just got back from seeing it!

I hope it does really, really, really, really well at the box office!!!

[C_U_L8R]

10. Like a great idea.. it'll be contagious

they can't hold this one back

[One Voice]

11. It was GREAT

Just got back from seeing it also...WOW
I just loved it!
:thumbsup:

[capriccio]

12. New Nickname for Limbaugh

Commander Prothero

[Duer 157099]

13. LOL!

There were some interesting ways that the film deviated from the graphic novel... in the book, V deals with Prothero differently (and makes the Limbaugh parallel even funnier)

[radio4progressives]

19. I'll have to read the book...

[radio4progressives]

18. Yep! Commander Prothero.. !

:rofl:

[cantstandbush]

52. You took the words right out of my brain. It couldn't have been

more clear.

[go west young man]

15. Just saw it tonight. It was awesome!

Everythings in there. From The Count of Monte Cristo to Phantom of The Opera, from Iraq to fear of deadly virus's, from Orwells big brother 1984 to the decline of the American Empire. The film rocks! This film is probably gonna shake more people up than the Da Vinchi Code. It holds no punches and compels one to ask wheather we are obidient to the government or visa versa.

[radio4progressives]

20. I'm sort of surprised this film hasn't been banned in the United States..

The references to the "former United States" twice, what was it that we were trying to "trade" to pay off our debt to Great Britain? some food product? can't remember now, damn i'm just gonna have to go see it again!

[go west young man]

21. Ditto on that!

The second time around I'm sure there's so much more one can pick up that they didn't catch on the first viewing! Hopefully this film will stir up a lot of minds around the world. The amazing thing is that it was written back in the 80's during Thatcherism.

[C_U_L8R]

22. Same creeps

different administration

[The2ndWheel]

23. Why is that amazing?

The Bush administration is not special. It's not a "oh my god, how did they know!!!!!!" moment. This is what governments/corporations/kingdoms/whatever have been doing since they were created. It's a concentration of power. That is why those entities exist.

How could Orwell and Huxley have known?!?!?!?!?!?! They paid attention to how power works. Same with V for Vendetta.

The only thing this movie might say is that the problem is far bigger than the Bush administration, and goes far deeper into the past than just the last 5 years.

[Lost-in-FL]

24. The thing is...

that the director did not do any attempt to hide the current politics. :wow: I just can't belive this movie was not censured the same way it was done with Brokeback Mountain.

Edited to avoid spoiling the movie for some...

[The2ndWheel]

26. This movie poses no threat

Not that as soon as seeing Brokeback, all the children in the land would turn gay. But that can be exploited. There is a gay segment of the population.

I haven't seen V, but I will. From what I gather, it has revolutionary overtones. There is no threat of that, violent or otherwise. People will see the movie, may talk about it, but we'll all go back to our cubicles on Monday.

[radio4progressives]

33. you are so right... people will all go back to our cubes on monday..

but it is worth seeing, it is momentarily inspiring..

[radio4progressives]

32. very well put..

[Duer 157099]

37. Mangos?

edited to add, since it's too far down from the post I'm replying to:

The question was about which food the US was paying off it's debt to GB with....

[Lisa]

51. wheat and tobacco!

Which Prothero urges his British audience to dump into the harbour, as payback for the Boston Tea Party. (Can he hold a grudge, or what?)

[BlueManDude]

25. ..but Michael Medved said it was treasonous...n/t

[area51]

27. Mikey Medfly is a pathetic POS.

He bleats whatever his fundie Christian handlers tell him to say.

[drfresh]

28. I can't tell you how impressed I was

I actually saw it with a "fundie" friend of mine who was a big big fan of The Matrix, so naturally he wanted to see the next Wachowski film. Vendetta got off to a rough start because of bad focus problems, and we eventually had to change theaters. But the film impressed me immensely, I can't even begin to explain. Towards the end, when the narrative went to the escalation of wars, the rise of a dictatorship and the start of persecution, my eyes were watering. A couple people walked out of the theater. Americans need to see this film. Go see it.

As for my fundie friend, he said the movie was "good, but weird". He was pretty quiet and looked extremely thoughtful on the drive home...

[Sparkman]

50. I recommend "BRAZIL" with Robert Denero. OLD movie, great fun.Political.

[C_U_L8R]

29. The freeps can't ignore it any longer

V for Vendetta was the #1 film at the box office this weekend !!!!!!

The idea spreads !!

[radio4progressives]

34. i was sort of amazed that distribution was not limited like the film:

"Why We Make War" - is only showing in special theatres, not in mainstream theatres.. it's a history on the MIC and THAT's a film EVERYONE should see.

[Zapatero]

30. I Heard That

the republicans are fuming over the movie. LOL

[jokerman93]

31. Just Saw It!!!

Wife and I went to the Sunday Matinee. Good number of people there, and some of them were pretty vocal. When V says "The People shouldn't be afraid of the government. The government should be afraid of the people," there was some hooting and hollering and some uncomfortable laughter too. On the whole it seemed a good part of he audience was getting it.

Loved the ending - especially the soundtrack with the Stones' "Fighting in the Streets". That was a kick. This is a powerful movie with first rate acting start to finish. Lots of subtle touches and references - and Natalie Portman - well ok, she's just stunning.

five stars! ***** I hope this film makes a killing and helps wake Amerika up.

Ideas are bulletproof! They cannot die!

(For Sci-Fi fans: I love the irony that there was an eighties mini-series named "V" that was about the take-over of earth by fascist reptilian overlords. It's like bizarre matching bookends. But then - there are no coincidences, right???)

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. We just saw it and truly Medvev's review now

makes sense... what you nuts? This WAS a pro democracy movie... and yes Hollywood is out of touch wiht the people :sarcasm: Oh and the audeince was all quiet and nobody moved, well except the guy besides me, who left

[Ignacio Upton]

36. I have two questions about the movie (spoilers)

1. Why did V allow for Natalee Portman's character to be tortured and left in that cell? How was he complicit in this?

2. What happens in the U.S. in the movie? They keep referring to America as the "former United States," where another Civil War is occuring (in reference to the first Civil War.)

I thought it was a decent movie, although I wish that it wasn't as dated in vis a vis political references to America in 2006. I think that the movie could easily apply to future heads of state as much as it could to Bush (or, in the case of the author's intent of the original comic book, Margaret Thatcher.) I did like how they poked fun of O'Reilly (or was it Rush?) with that media blowhard/conductor of genocide.

[Duer 157099]

38. Answers (spoilers)

1. V didn't allow for it, he orchestrated it, completely.

2. Nuclear war -- left US as a "leper colony" to quote the film

[Ignacio Upton]

40. But how did he get her while the government get her friend?

The guy who did the show making fun of Chancellor Sutler got his face smashed in and taken away and executed, while V somewhat copies them by getting Evey? Also, how could he have done the whole torture routine by himself? I mean, shave her head, drag her back to her cell, etc. Or did V just wear masks to impersonate each prison "official," the way he did what that dead party official (Rockwood was the guy's name.)

[Duer 157099]

41. I can't help with the actual details, because the novel has ...

a different scenario that is more explainable (although it's still a real stretch to imagine V playing all those parts).

In the film, it certainly looked like he had help didn't it? Then, even that isn't unreasonable, he was able to get alot of things done wasn't he?

[msatty99]

44. It doesn't have to make sense because it was just stupid

and that is how he 'does it all'

It's like asking...how does Superman fly?

[DS1]

46. I think that was V dressed up as a Gubmint goon who first

caught her and slipped the bag over her head.

[MadMaddie]

47. (Spoiler) When she was being tortured you never saw the

torturers face just a a siloutte of the body....it was always in shadows or the camara was focused on her. I thought that they did a great job....only one person dragged her back to her cell...delivery of the food...you only saw the plate being shoved in the food slot......

[Nevernose]

39. This sounds like a difference between the comic and the movie (spoiler?)

This post contains spoilers for the graphic novel, if you're literary minded and want to go out and read a truly great book (one of the very few "graphic novels" that I rank up there with other classic literature from the tentieth century).

In the comic, it is quite clear that it is V himself who has locked Evie in the cell and tortured her, in order to prove her loyalty, and to bring her around to his way of thinking through the use of a prison letter written on toilet paper -- the same letter that got him through his concentration camp days, and opened his eyes.

Did they have the cop drop acid at the ruins of V's concentration camp? I seriously doubt they'll leave that in, but don't tell me either way -- I'm going to see it tomorrow!

[TexasLawyer]

42. "Vendetta" Bloodies Box Office/ E OnLine

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18600,00.html

"Vendetta" Bloodies Box Office

by Bridget Byrne
Mar 19, 2006, 4:15 PM PT

V for Vendetta...and victory.

The Wachowski brothers' adaptation of Alan Moore and David Lloyd's classic graphic novel about rebellion against a fascist regime pulled in an estimated $26.1 million to handily win the weekend box office.

<snip>

[msatty99]

43. I got all excited reading the comments on this and other boards so I

saw the movie tonight...Maybe It's just me but I thought the
movie was crap. First, its creepy (and not in a good way) to have
the hero sashaying around in a carnival mask. Second, all
the government stuff is too heavy handed. I mean, c'mon...
when a movie government looks worse than Hitler are we
supposed to imagine that's real? Stupid. Just stupid.
I got bored and had to leave.

[jokerman93]

45. It's a stylistic genre piece

Think "comic book"! Think Zorro, The Scarlet Pimpernel, even Robocop! If you're expecting a serious treatment of totalitarian politics - you will be disappointed. No doubt. Movies like this are always done in bold broad strokes with dramatic contrasts and juxtapositions. It's just entertainment with an important theme. Relax and enjoy the ride.

:toast:

[MadMaddie]

48. You should put Spoiler in your title for those that have not seen

the movie...they should go into the movie withought any expectations!!!

Love the post!!

It is a must see movie for all DU members!!

[Iniquitous Bunny]

49. Best movie in years!

A must see! :thumbsup: