The bush admin in all its glory on 60 minutes last night

[BOSSHOG]

60 minutes interviewed a NASA scientist last night about his global warming findings; and his work being edited by the white house on purely political reasons. Findings, the edits were done for political reasons by oil executives hired by the white house. I would suspect that a genuflection to their religiously insane supporters would be part of those edits too. The white house political machine editing in all its glory with total disregard to scientific findings. Republicans should be so proud of the legacy they are building.

[Pryderi]

1. Mad Cow Disease is probably more widespread than they say.

[havocmom]

6. Count on it. And remember: Cheney loves beef

Only Lynn keeps it off his plate from what we read.

[niyad]

7. I have friends in ranching who say that herds have been destroyed for

quite some time now. all very silent, hush-hush.

[raccoon]

18. thanks for posting that. nt

[Stinky The Clown]

28. The corollary being: bird flu is not

Mad Cow is both real and the direct result of greed (using unsafe cattle feed made from dead cattle)

Bird flu, on the other hand, seems to me at least, is another case of "Boo!"

[cally]

2. My husband saw it and it made a big impact on him

I've been telling him for years what the WH is doing with scientific reports and he never quite believed me. Now he does and he's so angry. I hope many saw this report.

[proReality]

3. "Republicans should be so proud of the legacy they are building. "

They are...their buttons are popping all over the place (be careful of the fallout), and their crass crowing is obnoxiously loud.

[babylonsister]

4. I think the wh editor was a former lobbyist, no?

It does show how much concern this admin has for Americans and the world, which is absolutely none.
Why isn't this criminal/illegal?

[Chimichurri]

5. He went to work for Exxon after his stint at the WH

[Warpy]

8. Showing how heavily and idiotically "edited" his reports were

on camera was the most damning thing of all. Clinton/Gore may have pressured him, but this gang is in full blown denial of eveyrthing he's saying.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. He said that Clinton pushed him to report findings the other way -

to say that global warming was worse than it really was. I found that interesting. It is just like B** scaring everyone about terra - but for the exact opposite reason. The current - to push a killing and greed agenda, the former to garner support to save our planet.

[BOSSHOG]

11. And once again

after time has gone by the "agenda" of the previous administration was proven correct. I thought that part about Clinton was a genuflection to those who put pressure on the "liberal" media. Totally unnecessary to the story.

[pansypoo53219]

12. no, either Clinton's brains or Gore's instincts

that humans don't get it unless he disaster is happening. poverty is fine and dandy, unless you see poor blacks on roofs looking for somebody to save them in NOLA.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. don't you think that the NASA guy was trying to show that he

was non-partisan by throwing that in? I sure would like to see the proof on the Clinton "exageration". I guess, in fact, it sounds like Clinton and Gore knew the situation was going to get catastrophic one day and that they were way the hell ahead of the NASA scientist.

[Sparkman]

10. DU corporation defenders: remember ONLY dissenters can check powerful $$

dominant corporations from abusing the environment, passing the costs on to taxpayers.
ONLY the dissenters and protestors can bring enough attention to corporate abuses to make any differance. The victims voices get shut out by big monied interests, UNTIL a movement protests and amplifies the message. Organize, organize, organize.

[Blue_Tires]

25. well said n/t

[Jayhawk Lib]

13. I am going to get flamed for this.

I agree the planet is in a warming trend. I really do not believe man is causing it. I have heard the arguments both ways and there are more valid points against man causing it than man causing it.

Through the eons of time the planet has always gone through cycles of warming and cooling. Long before man was able to measure and record temperatures.

If it should be that man is causing it, it has been happening for many decades and it is going to take more than the United States to stop it. If man is causing it, I do not see anyway that it can be stopped.

[BOSSHOG]

14. Would you agree

that the white house edits were done soley due to politics and without any consideration of scientific evidence? The bush white house has a political agenda relative to global warming; to pacify the oil industry and religious zealots. Time and again they have proven scientific evidence and thoughtful research is irrelevant and certainly not needed to put forth their agenda. They can do it because their base is happy with their final product, damn the facts. If things on earth contribute to our globes temperature I find it hard not to think that man's contribution is far from minimal.

[Jayhawk Lib]

17. The gentleman's report was truly

very extreme and needed to be toned down. Not all scientists agree with global warming being man made.

http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Warming_Look.htm

[BOSSHOG]

21. I would appreciate it if you would

answer my question. Did the white house edit the report soley due to politics and nothing to do with science? "Very extreme?" That sounds like what evil liberals were called the three months prior to our going to war in Iraq in March 2003. Lo and behold what the evil liberals said what would happen, has happened. "Toned down?" The toning down based on what? Politics or Science? The bush administration "tones down" all critics; not based on factual data but on political retribution. They are miopic; clopping down the street with blinders on. Meanwhile our economy, our military, our constitution and our ecology are going straight to hell because of bush politics. Are you good with that?

[Jayhawk Lib]

22. No

It was not due solely to politics. Partially yes. But the so called scientist is very extreme and wrong according to some other scientists and it would have been irresponsible for the administration to publish it as it was written. The sky is not falling and to try to convince the masses that it is reprehensible.


In all reality we are going through a cycle and in a few years it will go the other way.

[BOSSHOG]

24. Thanks JL

and we'll be greeted in Baghdad with flowers and the sky is not falling on Iraq either. And raising the debt ceiling is not anything to concern our selfs about. And reagan proved that debt doesn't matter. "Very extreme and wrong." Thanks JL; you have clearly made your point. Now go back to those websites which tell you the publication of factual data is wrong.

[hatrack]

29. Steven Milloy? Why not just link AEI or Cato or John Stossell?

Goodbye, Jayhawk "Liberal".

[greenman3610]

15. you should educate yourself

try
realclimate.org
or
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/03/guides-by-category.html

[Jayhawk Lib]

16. Look at this site for more views....

http://junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Warming_Look.htm

[newspeak]

26. studied environment science in the eighties

in Northern Calif--my science professor at that time, stated that global warming is an evolutionary event; however, we are hastening the event. So, global warming and ice ages are cyclical but WE ARE HASTENING THE EVENT.

[Jayhawk Lib]

27. We MAY be hastening the event.

I doubt that we are but further studies are warranted.

[ldf]

30. sorry, but your "further studies are warranted"

is NOT an acceptable option.

period.

get used to it.

we are destroying the planet. there is no way you can argue your way out of that.

you may be willing to try and "adapt", as lord pissy pants says. i am not.

i will make a general prediction about all of this.

sooner or later, the writing on the wall will be so obvious that the people WILL wake up.

and they are going to be extremely pissed.

and they are going to go after everyone they feel helped this disaster to occur.

nothing, no walled, gated communities, high tech security is going to save them.

the politicians, the corporate heads, the rich who just wanted even more riches.

they will all reap what they have sewn.

and i am getting more and more eager to see it commence.

too bad so many, including, probably myself, are going to have to die, before we get to that point.

but it WILL happen.

and then you can study THAT!

[Jayhawk Lib]

32. Yes ...The planet is warming....

it has been ever since the ice age. Man has had nothing to do with it warming. Man cannot control the climate. Man is part of nature and he is just along for the ride.

[ldf]

34. you can repeat the lie all you want to.

it is still a lie. that is exactly what the republicans do.

and there is a lot more going on that affects the "so-called warming", as you would put it.

we are killing the oceans, by dumping all our garbage in them. the majority of the gulf is dead. a huge area off the east coast is full of the garbage we have dumped there, creating huge dead areas. can you imagine what is happening off the coast of china and india, where there are no regulations? the sheer number of humanity is destroying whole sections of the planet's breathing apparatus.

the ocean is the source of almost everything. we are killing it, which reduces its ability to function normally.

and then there is all the crap we spew into the air. the very air we need to breathe. the very air you are inhaling and exhaling this very second.

but you know all of that. you, and people like you, who are intelligent enough to know better, are a BIG part of the problem. huge uneducated masses of people are doing only what they can to survive. you know better, yet you still do nothing.

don't underestimate the anger of the people, once they wake up.

[Jayhawk Lib]

35. Okay....Lets assume everything

you believe is true....what can be done....It will take more than the US taking steps, the whole world would have to take drastic steps....IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

The planet has been warming up since the ice age (that is a fact that is undeniable) and I do not think there is anything man can do to stop it.

[pansypoo53219]

31. poppycock

there is plenty proof that we are the reason, sure, the planet may have been warming slightly, GRADUALLY, but human fuel usage as sped it up intolerably. sigh. sadly. my cousin is a Ph.D in atmospheric chemistry and he also says it doesn't look good. but hey, don't worry about that, apparently we will suffacate from the dwindling oxegen before we boil.

cause surely all this driving can't have ANY effect.

[Jayhawk Lib]

33. There is no proof that man is

causing global warming. There are some that try to use computer models but there are flaws in the modeling which really proves nothing.

The planet has been warming ever since the ice age. Man has had nothing to do with it.

There are so many "educated" people screaming the sky is falling that one day there may be a real crisis and nobody will listen to them.

[infogirl]

19. They are being "exposed"

How much longer can the public ignore all of this! I am outraged!
:toast:
:puke:
:argh:
:grr:
:beer:
:nuke:
:hi:
:shrug:
:yourock:
:woohoo:
:popcorn:
:rofl:
:patriot:

[Contrary1]

23. Here's the story for those who missed it:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985.shtml