I need some help fighting William Kristol at my school

[gordontron]

He is coming to speak at my high school and I really need ammunition. I'm pretty politically literate, but this guy obviously spends his life sucking it in. As a founder of the PNAC I don't know if he is just so wacky his lies will expose themselves or not. Any help would be much appreciated, because I think that few of us will stand up to him. thanks guys!

oh and as a note he is scheduled to speak on "American foreign policy post 9/11. He will address how the attacks of September 11 may have initiated a new era in American politics and foreign policy, and the implications of the new world we are living in, at home and abroad, politically and culturally"

[Ignacio Upton]

1. Why is he speaking at your high school?

Was he an alum there?

[gordontron]

2. no not even the same state

I don't know how we got him to speak.

[tularetom]

3. When he takes his coat off sucker punch him

then when he doubles over knee him in the nuts. Actually he appears to be at the upper end of the age for military eligibility so you might ask him why his ass isn't in Iraq fighting for what he says he believes in.

[gordontron]

6. hah I would love to punch him

but being expelled at this point isn't worth it. plus I doubt he actually has any balls (has to compensate with all that war talk). Thanks for the other suggestion

[AtomicKitten]

8. I'd kick him in the nuts first. and then ask him about PNAC.

He's really quite delusional with a shit-eating grin on his face most of the time.

Actually the PNAC philosophy has pretty much gone down in flames at the hands of Junior. His execution of the Iraq war has been appalling, the war itself immoral and illegal.

I'd probably ask Kristol why he feels the US doesn't need to abide by International Law.

[bilgewaterbill]

15. Sledge hammer to the kneecaps works well, too. nt

[Apollo11]

20. You are sick

If you are a democrat then you believe in the power of ideas.

Violence is not the answer.

[bilgewaterbill]

21. Mom! You're alive!

[pk_du]

4. Are you sure its "William" Kristol and not "Billy Crystal"

that would be a whole different kinda gig :O)

[gordontron]

5. yeah I mean "William Kristol"

my bad I'll change that, wikipedia has him as the same person.

[Canuckistanian]

7. 9/11 sure changed everything, that's for sure

Not in terms of reality, though. It's still the same world. The only difference is that different players are calling the shots now.

Maybe you can ask him about his father, the rabid Trotskyite. Wait a sec, I'll find something for ya..

OK, here's a good quote from his father:

"There are different kinds of truths for different kinds of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone is a modern democratic fallacy. It doesn't work."

Ask him what he thinks "truth" is. Then ask him if Shrub tells the truth.

[incapsulated]

9. So, will you get to ask questions?

I would imagine that will be the case, not that you will have to debate him. Your plan should be to ask the most damning question, one that doesn't give him a lot of wiggle room, and one which is embellished with a lot of irrefutable facts. I think the best thing to do is google anything he has written about "American foreign policy post 9/11", he may have even done versions of this speech before. Then you can pick some favorite talking point of his to nail him on.

[gordontron]

10. yeah it is question and anwser no debate

I would be torn to part during a full on debate. thanks for the tip

[incapsulated]

11. I was right, he's given this speech before...

I googled it for ya. :)

It's a bullshit, Bush is kinda wrong but right speech.

http://www.thehccrusader.com/news/2005/11/18/News/Weekly.Standard.Editor.Examines.Us.Foreign.Policy.In.Wake.Of.911-1110997.shtml

http://magazine.uchicago.edu/0404/campus-news/kristol.shtml

[gordontron]

12. at first it looks just like a history lesson but then

"The United States is “running a post-9/11 Bush foreign policy with a ’90s-size military"

ooh boy, this is going to be interesting if not terrifying.

(thanks for the digging I apprecaite it)

[incapsulated]

13. Just take notes...

While he's speaking. I'm sure he will leave a big hole for you to drive through.

Don't be intimidated, he's not the belligerent type, just do your homework. :)

[gordontron]

14. I will definately take notes and

I'll post any rediculous quotes here. He isn't coming for a few weeks so I'll do some research in the meantime. I'm not exactly a fan of speaking in front of the whole school though...

[incapsulated]

16. You won't be the only one asking questions

You will be fine. :) :thumbsup:

[GoldenOldie]

17. It's amazing how easy it is to speak/question before a crowd when

you have a true passion and know your subject. Go get em kid....you'll do great. It does this old heart good to know that there are young people out there like you.

[caligirl]

19. That passion helped my son write a terrific college essay on politicsthat

helped him get into some excellent schools with scholarship and large grants. Use this opportunity, you never know how it may benefit you in the near future. Few kids are confident or knowledgeable enough as you are to do this. It makes you stand out, in the 60's colleges were the place where discussion and debate on government policy and lies really got started. It needs to return. Your class mates will be impressed with your ability and knowledge. go for it. My son did, and he was well rewarded for his efforts.

[heirs_of_liberty]

18. Yes, burning the Reichstag was great CIA Mafia theater

but Conservatives who are one foot into the quagmire of religious socialist fascism with their 'Christian Coalition" and the other in noble conservative-privatist military industrial corruption, coercion and profiteering can hardly claim to be impartial brokers for Liberty or the spirit of liberalism in the Arab world. Indeed Isael's Likud is little much different in terms of dedicated conservative tyranny than Hamas is.

The ridiculus notion that one could create a Constititution that would allow the establishment of religious "political parties" for an election in the new, supposedly "liberated" (Liberal Democratic) country of Iraq deserves to be shot. The Essence of liberty is the non-establishment of religion. It is the cornerstone of 'democratic' republican Liberty!

This mutually destructive religious war between religious fascist theocratic and neo-theocratic conservative nations threatens to peace and security of all the world's counntries - liberal democracies aside.

Ask Mr. Kristol what is the true agenda of the Christian fascist neo-conservative movement?

"As the union between spiritual freedom and political liberty seems nearly inseparable, it is our duty to defend both. And defence in the FIRST INSTANCE is best." Thomas Paine, Thoughts on Defensive War - 1775

"I see in the near future a crisis approach which unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." - Abe Lincoln

"Today Christians rule Germany! I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess..." - *The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939,