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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:32 PM
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I can support a Feingold/Clark or a Clark/Feingold ticket!!
Will someone with some BALLS please come forward and take up the Democratic charge!! Feingold, Conyers have but where are the rest. Harkin finally did. Kerry does from time to time. The group that Bush has lost recently in polling--those between the 51% and the 36% (I know--the election was rigged in Ohio) are looking for someone to step up and take the lead. They are not as interested in issues as they are in BALLS. They want someone to stand up against this administration--to show some cajones. That is why Feingold is doing well. These other prissypants democrats who constantly try to determine the "safe" ground are shit. They don't have guts or balls or anything. They are too busy trying to keep their jobs rather than doing their jobs. They should get the hell out of the way of the real leaders. The country will follow one with balls. Even for as much as they have done to screw up this country, the repubs still have balls. Arrogant? Yes. Wrong? Absolutely. Hate America? You bet. Greedy leaches? Of course. But they have balls. Even when everything in the GOP is turning to shit, they pick it up and throw it back in your face. The DNC cannot pay for an ad to indict the president in the public arena?

Announcer: "This is President Bush and Vice-President Cheney. They lied about WMDs, they lied about Hurricane Katrina. They are liars."

" This is Majority Leader John Boehner. He passed out bribe checks on the floor of the House of REpresentatives. He is a pimp."

"This is Duke Cunningham..."

"This is Jack Abramhof..."

"This is Tom Delay...."

"This is Jack Scanlon..."

"This is Bob Ney..."

"This is Gov Taft of Ohio...."

"This is etc etc etc.

Buy an infomercial. Take out print ads. Expose these pieces of crap for what they are.

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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:40 PM
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1. Ditto! n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:04 PM
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2. I like that ticket too...
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:06 PM
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3. I'll buy into a Clark/Feingold ticket. nt
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:14 PM
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4. YES!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:31 PM
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5. I'm pulling for Clark/Feingold n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:45 PM
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6. I'd love a Clark/Feingold ticket as well.....
Clark as Prez, restoring our reputation round the world, while Feingold as Prez of the Senate...keeping those assholes in line! Once Clark restores peace, restores our rep, and thins out the Pentagon Budget, Feingold then become Prez and keep the peace that Clark made.

2 Rhodes scholars, not 1, needed to clean up after Bush's stay!!! :headbang:
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:33 PM
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7. Wow. That sounds good. All the while telling the truth to the people!
They will tackle global warming and allow the scientists to get serious about harnessing new forms of energy. (Al Gore will be put in charge of this, of course); as he will become the new head of the EPA and given a special mandate.

:woohoo:
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:43 PM
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8. The groundswell for Feingold
who is a terrific guy, persistently neglects to take into account that he is TWICE divorced AND Jewish --- factors not helpful in today's bigoted climate. Let him be a truly great Senator - we need those as well.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:49 PM
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9. The difference between "balls' and "leadership" is vision.
You wrote: "They are not as interested in issues as they are in BALLS."

This is true. But balls alone aren't enough.

Americans don't want to see their elected officials attack each other. They want an America that works, an American vision that they can believe in. Bush, despite all his monumental fuckups, is still the only one selling a vision. Bush's vision is of a free Iraq, where the terrorists are on the run, watching from their caves as the despotic governments of Arab states are toppled one by one and replaced by McDonald's-loving, Coke-drinking democracies.

It doesn't matter that his vision isn't happening. What matters is that he has a vision. That's what he sells.

When the Republicans attack Democrats, they often do it by repeating the vision and then saying that Democrats don't know how to achieve it. Democrats then get caught up trying to convince America that they can achieve a vision that was Republican from the get-go. Remember John Kerry trying to talk about how he'd win the war in Iraq? Here's what Bush blasted him with in the 2004 debates:

He talks about a grand idea: Let's have a summit; we're going to solve the problem in Iraq by holding a summit. And what is he going to say to those people that show up at the summit? Join me in the wrong war at the wrong time at the wrong place? Risk your troops in a war you've called a mistake? Nobody is going to follow somebody who doesn't believe we can succeed and with somebody who says that war where we are is a mistake.


What Democrats need is a vision of our own. Something we can promote, defend, fight for, dream of, and be inspired by.

Until we have that vision, we're only half a party. Until we articulate that vision, all we have is repudiation of theirs, and that's not enough. It never is.

So what should a Democratic vision of the future look like? What big ideas does it center around? Here's my two cents on the subject:

I think it starts with energy independence. Instead of a War *for* Oil, we should be engaging in a War *on* Oil. Montana's governor Brian Schweitzer gets it. If you haven't seen the "60 Minutes" profile on Gov. Schweitzer, and his plan for environmentally safe coal gasification, you should. Take a few minutes and check it out. Schweitzer comes off as a leader, striking all the right notes about American independence, innovation, and national security: "Why wouldn’t we create an economic engine that will take us into the next century, and let those sheiks and dictators and rats and crooks from all over the world boil in their own oil?" You can imagine red-staters voting for him because he's got a vision for Montana, a vision that can ultimately be extended beyond Montana, and beyond coal.

Describing the emerging Democratic vision for America really should have a thread of it's own. I just wanted to point out that it takes more than just balls to win. The difference between "balls" and leadership is vision, and both Democrats and America need a new vision to succeed.

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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 08:09 AM
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11. You are correct, balls isn't enough BUT it gets their attention so the
message and the leadership are heard. We've got too many with neither.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 11:32 AM
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12. I like Schweitzer!
The Quotable Schweitzer

BY NICHOLAS COLLIAS
DECEMBER 7, 2005
The Boise Weekly

On open government: "We have not only open government, but open door. On the first day in office, I invited the press in, I showed them the key to my office, and I threw it away. I told them, 'This door will never be closed.'"

On biodiesel: It just doesn't make sense for farmers to produce wheat, being subsidized by the federal government, shipping that wheat to the Middle East and everywhere else, and meeting boats on the high seas delivering oil."

On the Iraq War: "After Every one of those
On Plame-gate: "'Scooter?' What kind of a name is 'Scooter' for a man in the White House? Of course he can't keep a secret!"

On coal burning energy: "Here's what you do: Crush it, ignite it, and then you create high pressure steam which turns a turbine. Then, here's the secret: You build a stack, really high, high enough that all the mercury and the sulfur and the carbon dioxide that you can put up that stack goes to somebody else's community."

On the deficit: "I'd like you to look over at your spouse and see if there's a little twinkle in the eye. Because we need more children to pay this thing off. A lot of them."

On the rationale for Iraq: "Democracy in the Middle East? Let me tell you something: You know who our allies are there? Saudi Arabia: king. Kuwait: king. Jordan: king. Amman: king. Bahrain: king. The list goes on. All kings."

On China: "They have coal, and if they burn that coal in the old technology like they want to do right here in the Magic Valley, they will destroy the planet with both mercury and CO2. If we get clean-coal technology right, and we get them that technology, we might be able to save their country and our planet.


===
And my favorite, which wasn't included in this article:

On DC: “I have a 72-hour rule. If I stay in Washington for more than 72 hours, I have to bathe myself in the same stuff I use when one of my dogs gets in a fight with a skunk -- stuff to get the smell out.”
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 11:47 AM
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13. Schweitzer is unquestionably the next Bill Clinton
But unfortunately he would look like an opportunist if he ran in '08.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:59 PM
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10. I could get enthused about that ticket. We could use a couple
of smart people in the WH who aren't crooks.
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