Are the Neocons Losing It? (Patrick J Buchanan)

[TomInTib]

While President Bush appears serenely confident about Iraq, the same cannot be said of the War Party propagandists who were plotting this conflict when Dubya was still a rookie governor of Texas.

William Kristol of The Weekly Standard now demands the firing of Donald Rumsfeld. William F. Buckley, whose National Review branded the antiwar Right "unpatriotic conservatives" who "hate" America, now calls upon Bush for an "acknowledgement of defeat."

Richard Perle says the administration "got the war right and the aftermath wrong." Self-described "humiliated pundit" Andrew Sullivan confesses to "a sense of shame and sorrow." Michael Ledeen says of Bush's war, "Wrong war, wrong time, wrong way, wrong place."

<snip>

But it is a March 20 essay in The Wall Street Journal that suggests the neocons may be coming unhinged. Written by Weekly Standard Executive Editor Fred Barnes, the piece urges Bush to begin the "rejuvenation of his presidency by shocking the media and political community with a sweeping overhaul of his administration."

the rest:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49422

[indie_voter]

1. my head is going to explode. Wasn't he defending Bush after his presser?

[wakeme2008]

2. Unlike the others, I will say this about Pat

he was against this war from the start. http://www.amconmag.com/03_24_03/cover.html

[HysteryDiagnosis]

3. Wrong war, wrong time, blah blah blah..... ILLEGAL WAR FRAUGHT

WITH WARCRIMES AND BREACH OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

[unblock]

4. remember when pat buchanan was the lunactic fringe right?

he hasn't changed at all. the fact that he now seems the voice of reason speaks volumes about shrub and the gang.

[TomInTib]

8. That is my take as well. The slide (ooze?) to the right of Buchanan

and his ilk has been truly amazing to behold.

[unblock]

9. not much of a "slide". slime maybe, but not slide

remember how shrub campaigned in 2000 as a moderate? remember "compassionate conservativism?"

:rofl:

[ThoughtCriminal]

10. The GOP charged right past lunacy

And set new standards for extremism. When your party make Pat look moderate, the only thing missing is party uniforms.

[IndianaGreen]

13. Another "Night of the Long Knifes"?

Buchanan's lunatic fringe is now moderate compared to Bush's lunatic fringe.

I wonder if this will end up in another "Night of the Long Knifes" when Hitler was forced to liquidate his close friend and associate Ernst Röhm and many of his Brownshirts.

[Critters2]

22. this marriage of neocons with paleocons has never been comfortable

Pat's ilk have hated the neos from the outset. Too many Dems see them as one in the same, and so see this as some kind of split. In truth, Buchanan has always hated the neo-cons and vice versa. And he's hated them for all the right reasons. He's wrong about oh, so much. But on this he's right and he's been right for years.

Devil his due!

[hvn_nbr_2]

21. Yep, and I remember when Goldwater was an extremist

Now Goldwater would be a breath of fresh air and reason.

America has gone stark raving mad.

[SaveElmer]

26. He still is...

He has always been a bit of an isolationist though...he is just being consistent...

Recall his outrageous statements during the Schaivo fiasco to see his true self!

[Warpy]

5. The neocons lost it a long time ago, that's why they're neocons

The only thing that has changed is that people are starting to notice how nuts they've been all along.

It's not like it's a new thing, Pat. Some of us are just swifter than you are.

[xray s]

6. let's hope he keeps ignoring them

stay the course, Dubya. stay the course.

I really want a Democratic sweep in November.

[pretzel4gore]

7. put them all in jail...

sure bush was a fake president who nwever won anything, but what made bad terrible was the enabling act of the pigmedia including wfbuckley, buxchanan, perle, kristol old and oldest, barnes, sullivan leden and a host of others. bill clinton's admin was subject to constant harassment by these same pigfukkers, and you can at least admit that hundreds of thousands never got killed, or trillions wasted away under him-the same mob has encouraged the sot bush, who has driven the ship onto the rocks almost as if it was intentional, so NOW his enablers whine! too late pigfukkers!
shootem all, let god sortem out

[cliss]

11. So who's protecting Rumsfailed?

William Kristol still got some power, right? And he's clamoring to to "flush the Rum".

It seems that everybody is against RumsFool. This week, the Wall Street Journal got in its digs into him, too. The article was critical of his handling of the war.

So why does the old buzzard still have a job? For God's sake, can't they find anybody? Just pull in the janitor down the hall, vacuuming the carpeting. He'll do a better job than Rumsfathead.

[grasswire]

18. Cheney

The cabal within the cabal was always Cheney-Rumsfeld, with Wolfowitz, Feith and a few others.

It is Cheney and Rumsfeld who hold the real power of the military.

[IndianaGreen]

12. Stalin would have had these criminals shot!

The purge Barnes recommends would have caused Stalin to recoil.

Barnes calls on Bush to fire press secretary Scott McClellan, chief of staff Andy Card, political adviser Karl Rove, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Treasury Secretary John Snow – and Vice President Richard Cheney.

"The trickiest issue is how to handle Karl Rove," says Barnes.

I don't think so, Fred. I think "the trickiest issue" will be how to handle Dick and Lynne when they are told by Dubya they must give up a constitutional office to which Cheney was elected by the nation, vacate the vice presidential mansion and turn the keys over to Condi Rice.

That's right. Barnes urges Bush to appoint Condi vice president and "anoint" her as "presidential successor."

Who would replace Condi at State? Pro-war liberal Joe Lieberman.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49422

[eppur_se_muova]

25. Hey, it's just "a damned piece of paper" anyway!

Evidently Barnes doesn't object to the idea of destroying the Constitution; he just thinks the operational details should be handled more competently.

PS: Stalin recoiled from NOTHING. Let's not get carried away.

[hadrons]

14. who will make the kool-aid at this rate????

[Nimrod2005]

15. Nobody wants to talk about how all of these fuckups are WAY BIGGER

and WAY BEYOND just bad policies, or something that was simply mismanaged...etc. Many many lives have been lost, many many of our children will suffer, many futures have been changed forever...The damage is overwhelming when it is properly quantified, and everyone is talking as if you just ran a stoplight...Where is the outrage?

[glitch]

23. Everybody is afraid of being called a conspiracy theorist by "the crazies"

They are only now beginning to timidly offer up incompetency theories.

Maybe they think if the people knew the truth there would be an even worse hell to pay, like an immediate cataclysmic reaction.
When your people are teetering on the brink of the abyss, I guess you don't want to be the one who yells fire.
Even as the fire rages all around.

[janx]

16. Never trust World Nut Daily.

Although I must say I am surprised to see such sentiments within its pages.

[TomInTib]

19. Consider the author. If Buchanan is pissed..

so is everybody but the fundie psychos.

[Critters2]

24. Buchanan has always hated the neocons. Venomously.

[EVDebs]

17. 'Sweeping overhaul'....rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic

Fred Barnes, didn't he write 'Rebel In Chief' or somesuch hagiography ?

Review of Rebel-in-Chief: Inside the Bold and Controversial Presidency of George W. Bush
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0603.chotiner.html

[TomInTib]

20. Went from "kiss-up" to "kck-ass" right quick. Those repubs will..

turn on one another quicker than a dog with distemper.