Anybody but this guy! Can we stop this Dukakis2?

[Vis Numar]

The Rovian media seems intent on giving us John Botox Kerry.

We can do better! John Kerry looks good on paper but anybody who has been following the race for the nomination knows that Kerry is a potential Dukakis waiting to happen. Quite simply Kerry is going to have a hard time appealing those NASCAR dads we always hear about (if you put any stock in it). Who is a more perfect person for Bush to run against than a rich aloof liberal senator from the north east? Even better for Bush is that the Democratic convention is in Boston (btw who was the genius behind that one?!). How many hit pieces on Kerry are we going to see featuring Ted Kennedy and Michael Dukakis?

http://www.flyservers.com/members5/anybodybutkerry.com/

[jeter]

1. That's why Kerry is leading in all the polls

And his numbers continue to rise.

Stop this nonsense now.

[Warpy]

6. This is just part of a whispering campaign

You know, clog message boards with rubbish, sow doubt in the minds of supporters. It happened with Dean, and now it's happening with Kerry.

Ignore them. They'll eventually go away.

[adadem]

2. The majority of

the electorate obviously does not see things your way.

[waldenx]

5. the majority

72% of New Hampshire voted against Kerry.
If you are speaking of the entire country, the vast majority do not vote at all because of politicians like Kerry.

[Monte Carlo]

8. Your scorn is misguided.

We all hate politicians, but there are reasons they are the way they are. Kerry is not free of the baggage, but he is one of the good guys.

[Monte Carlo]

Can't you supply something more constructive to talk about?

Instead of this endless hash of every negative talking point ever written about John Kerry?

[waldenx]

3. a Democratic Bob Dole

is a better analogy.
At least Dukakis had somewhat of a personality and wasn't a condescending ass.

[Vis Numar]

4. Yea, I agree

The median point between Dole and Dukakis, yuch!

[sallyseven]

10. I thought that the administrators of this forum

said not to make accusations like this. Dusks was a decent person and tried to rise above the shitty stuff the repuks said about him. Kerry learned from him that the opposition will do and say anything, even lie, so he will strike back at every false statement made about him. Keep this in mind. He will not allow people to berate him falsely.

[Atlant]

17. If they did, 90% of the anti-Dean threads wouldn't have been allowed...

> I thought that the administrators of this forum said not to make
> accusations like this.

If they did, 90% of the anti-Dean threads wouldn't have been allowed
to stand. But stand they did.

Now it's apparently Kerry's turn to be dismantled.

Atlant

[Vis Numar]

21. Nope

they changed the rules heer a few days before Iowa, just in time for Kerry's media nomination.

[Vis Numar]

20. yea yea, we know

they'll be in here any moment now to lock the thread and re-direct it to one that bashes Dean.

[Snivi Yllom]

9. dole?

dunno about that..

[xray s]

7. Not Dukakis

Kerry doesn't need to ride around in an M1 to prove himself. Doesn't have to be flown onto an aircraft carrier either.

Having Max Cleland and a platoon of Vets in his corner helps alot too. Don't sell Kerry's potetial appeal to the NASCAR dads short. I think they will see Bush for the squealing pig he is, eventually.

[killbotfactory]

12. He rides motorcycles instead.

Just another Average Joe. All the Average Joe's I know are multi-millionaires who ride Harleys.

[robbedvoter]

18. Dukakis was a real liberal though...I respected him. Kerry, not so much

http://chat.forclark.com/story/2004/2/1/93824/65759

[rucky]

11. Learn to Love Him

Just on the off chance that a Stop Kerry blog movement doesn't take off.

:eyes:

[kaitykaity]

13. How many hit pieces? Too many to count.

But they will wait until after Kerry has the nomination before they start attacking him. Then they will eviscerate him, and he doesn't have the 'thing' to fight them--he doesn't stand for anything, he's a Finger in the Wind, poll-driven insider.

It'll be a bloodbath.

[ramapo]

22. Who wouldn't be attacked?

What would happen to Dean? Attacks on his lack of military service, foreign policy experience, NE liberal, abortion doctor, small state not ready for prime time, tempermental. He'd be sliced, diced and might just blow a gasket along the way.

Edwards? No military service, LAWYER, LAWYER, lack of experience, LAWYER. Very vulnerable on the experience issue.

Clark? Hmmm. Less vulnerable. I thought he'd be more viable but he's not.

That's it...

They'll throw all kinds of crap at Kerry. It is up to him to defuse and counterattack. Send Kerry money so he can try and match the Bush money machine.

Kerry is not my ideal candidate but I'll take a liberal President from Massachusetts any day of the week.

[zanana]

14. Bush didn't worry about "northeast liberals", did he?

Let's just put the shoe on the other foot, shall we? The right-wing press tells us that Dean doesn't have enough "experience" in government; Bush had only been the governor of a state, as well. Now they're bringing out that old, battered "stiff, aloof" personality problem that supposedly Kerry has and that Gore had. I think we're far too sensitive to Republican propaganda. Let's not start believing it ourselves, OK?

[ramapo]

15. I've come around on Kerry

I initially believed Kerry would be a bad choice for the reasons you stated; rich, liberal, Massachusetts, a bit aloof, funny hair (kidding), etc. I thought that even though I believe he has the best qualifications... but we all know qualifications don't win elections.

I think Kerry is smart enough to not allow Rove & Co. to lay on the labels. To the contrary, I think he will have the Repubs very busy defending Bush.

A lot of the crap that the Republican propagandists throw can be defused by the right candidate. Clinton was very successful at that, which brought on the intense hatred of the Republican insiders. After all, in many respects, Clinton beat them at their own game.

I have a lot of respect for what Dean has accomplished over the past year. But he will not be elected President. Edwards is good but not enough experience. Clark...I've a lot of respect for him also but he just doesn't have it together. Who else is there?

Anyway, Kerry is a better man than Bush. If he can't beat Bush then he doesn't deserve to be President.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

16. Nothing Rovian about this thread....nope...nothing Rovian at all

So I can trade the totalitarian approach of Bush for the totalitarian methods of THIS?

[Emillereid]

19. This writer from Arizona agrees with you.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0201sunlets016.html

Bush fears running against Dean

Feb. 1, 2004 12:00 AM

To all Democrats considering voting for John Kerry in this Tuesday's primary, I have two words: Michael Dukakis.

Karl Rove wants Kerry to become the Democratic candidate because Rove knows Bush will beat Kerry. I'm asking all Democrats to vote for Howard Dean, for the following reasons:

1. Dean has re-energized the Democratic base, bringing thousands of new voters into the fold. He raised more than $41 million in small contributions from average citizens even before he became nationally known.

2. Dean is fiscally conservative and has a proven track record of balancing budgets; Kerry has no such record.

3. Health care emerged as the top concern of voters in New Hampshire; Dean's record is unsurpassed on this issue.

4. Rove and Bush are terrified of Dean - witness the recent spate of negative reports in the "liberal" media. I believe Bush wants Dean out of the race, and is calling in favors he earned from media conglomerates when he rammed through the FCC rule changes allowing further industry consolidation.

For these reasons and many more, I support Howard Dean as the best choice to challenge George Bush.

Barrett Latham, Casa Grande

I don't know myself -- I hope Kerry realizes that if he's the nominee, he will have to run a better campaign than Dukakis did. BTW, I really liked Dukakis.

[Trajan]

23. And I always thought ...

His name was just John Kerry ....

These asinine insults are Childish ...

Grow up ...

[Moderator]

24. Locking.....

1. If you start a thread in this forum, you must present your opinion in a manner that is not inflammatory, which respects differences in opinion, and which is likely to lead to respectful discussion rather than flaming. The moderators have the sole authority to decide whether a thread topic is inflammatory.