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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:50 PM
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Biden for prez
Would you support him? Why or why not? Just want to tell my fellow dem friend who thinks he would make a great prez. I do too, but I think there are betters dems out there.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:55 PM
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1. Democratic President
I will support the Democratic nominee for president of the united states of america, whomever he or she may be period.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:58 PM
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4. Agreed.
Biden is not my first choice by any means, but I'll support him if he is the nominee.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:02 PM
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7. I hear you
I feel the same way. I'm voting for whomever wins the nomination. Just curious if the base here at the DU would consider Biden a front runner. I like Kerry/Edwards/Gore/Clark/Feingold/Warner to name a few. Even Clinton would be better than a repug.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:56 PM
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2. So many reasons why not
But here's #1:

He'd never get a damned thing done in office because he'd spend all his time at photo-ops.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:00 PM
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5. Photo ops = recognition
Recognition = votes

Look at us here in Texas. We've got a dit-wad named Gene Kelly in a runoff for US Senate. Kelly is a perennial candidate for every office and sends campaign funds back to contributors 'cause he doesn't want to win. He just likes the press attention.

All he has is name recognition. If Biden is raising his profile it's only part of the program.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:01 PM
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6. I'll change my mind about Biden
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 05:01 PM by JeffR
When he starts advocating more policies I can get behind.

ON EDIT: He does have a few already.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:56 PM
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3. I prefer more of a populist than a coporate oriented politician
ie MBNA credit cards. However, I think he is a common sense person and he will have my vote if he gets the nomination.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:03 PM
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8. Corporate Whore.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:19 PM
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9. No.
Corporatist, plagiarist, signed PNAC letter. No thanks.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:27 PM
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10. He's smarmy
I know that's not a good reason, and it should be about politics, but I just don't care for him.
Now, if he, by some miracle gets the nomination, our smarmy Democrat would still be 100% better than the alternative.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 06:04 PM
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17. sad but true
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:34 PM
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11. I'd have to plagiarize somebody to fake the support.
:evilgrin:

Who would support biden after he tried to destroy Anita Hill? Who would support Biden that voted for the IWR? Who would support Biden who voted to shaft the people so corporations stay rich - an aye vote on the bankruptcy bill? Who would support Biden who was so narcissistic during the Alito hearings and used their time to talk about themself? Biden is not accomplishment driven on behalf of the people, but he is certainly an expert on himself.
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Doorknob Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:42 PM
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12. I like Biden.
But I don't think he would get the nod. I'd rather see Dean.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:49 PM
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13. Yes if he won...not my first choice...his time is past for this...but
He is a good Democrat...is a good speaker and debater. But I just think that his opportunity passed by about 16 years ago.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:51 PM
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14. We desperately need someone with foreign policy experience
While Biden keeps touting his credentials, what he neglects to say is that he keeps getting foreign policy wrong. He not only voted for this war, he was a cheerleader until the polls shifted. This war is the worst geopolitical blunder we have ever made. Why in god's name would anyone want Biden in the Oval Office? The Sunday before the Democratic Convention, biden used his Sunday Gasbag time to diss Kerry and toot his own horn. And we're suppose to support him? It would seem he already has the support he's ever earned: his own. Anita Hill...bankruptcy bill...War. I wouldn't trust him any more than I trust McCain.

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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:54 PM
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15. I'd vote for Cheney before I'd vote for Biden.
Only half-kidding.

Listen, if these cowardly, war-profiteering, anti-American fucksticks that are in now aren't enough to make the voting public want a REAL progressive liberal in charge, I think we do indeed need to slip further in to the morass, or fail as a republic altogether.

Sorry, Biden doesn't do shit for me, and "settling" for him is as good as giving up. I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory (so to speak...Hi Agent Mike!).

Plus his hair looks stupid.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:58 PM
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16. I'd support him. He is a good speaker and strong on defense
he's not perfect,but he has a strong democratic voting record and knows how to give "straight talk." I could easily support him.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:37 PM
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21. "Straight talk"?
It's true that when he is "on", he can be good - but then there are the times he goes into his long irrelevent stories. I've only seen one major speech he gave which was, I think this last fall.

Parts of it were good, then he would turn and go off onto tangents that were really bad. He was speaking about Iraq - he appeared to be trying to critize both Bush et al and the liberals. But he ended up saying that Bush's innaugral speech sounded like Kennedy with a southern drawl. Seeing that that speech was essentially PNAC, that's disturbing - the question was, did he really mean it?
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 06:25 PM
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18. biden is a pos
folks don't get it. He is simply another corporatist representative. Those are the people who are fucking this nation over. Bush and the neocons are simply middle management. Biden would simply be the new boss..........same as...

god help us. It is pretty horrible when one thinks of peak oil and climate change as saviors........
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 06:31 PM
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19. I absolutely would not support him. Would likely vote Green
if he got the nomination.

First off, I think he's unelectable. He comes off like a used car salesman, and does not appear to have any consistent principles at all. He's far too close to the neocons in his foreign policy views. The guy was practically slobbering about the possibility of Kerry picking McCain as his running mate. He has a plagiarism scandal in his past that derailed his attempted '88 run.

I think he may be angling for a spot on Hillary's ticket. That ticket, if it happens, will be a disaster of monumental proportions IMO.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:37 PM
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24. And Biden was too stupid to realize
That the source of the McCain-as-Kerry-VP rumors was NOT Kerry, but MCCAIN, who, ever the media whore, wanted the media to further preen over his "maverick" reputation with rumors that he would be the Dem VP. Kerry never once considered McCain - only McCain leaked those rumors. And idiot Biden, who works with both men and should have known better, took the bait.

Biden reminds me of those obnoxious twits in my classes who dominate class discussion with their pretentious word vomit and faux intellect, who bloviate and posture but who are not at all intelligent, and who quickly become the most despised person in the class. Ugh.

How's by you, Crunchy? :hi:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 06:36 PM
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20. Biden is not a leader, he is a follower.
He goes with whatever position is popular at the moment.

That's all the reason you'll ever need as to why he shouldn't run for or be elected president of the United States of America.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 08:26 PM
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22. LOL!
Biden for President? You gotta be kidding!

this is a joke right?

ok... got it! laugh at dotted line.......

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:30 PM
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23. Ugh!
Biden's just another egotistical professional pol more interested in keeping his job/power than anything else. He voted "Yea" for the RE-authorization of the so-called "Patriot" Act. He's self-absorbed, WAY too Beltway savvy, and smarmy to boot. He's exactly the kind of oldstyle candidate who is NOT going to attract a lot of the hordes of disgruntled Democrats who are disgusted with the party to vote for him. In fact he will repel a large percentage of the disgruntled. Some of the disgruntled will end up voting for Biden (or whomever) ONLY because they recognize we HAVE to win back power and will have to vote for whomever the candidate is.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:39 PM
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25. Biden is not a favorite here
although I'm surprised. He hovers around 1% in the national polls, so you'd think he'd be winning DU polls.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:10 AM
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31. Haha!
Hilarious. :D
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:27 AM
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35. Isn't that the truth! nt
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:58 PM
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26. No...
I like him, even though he's too corporatist, and a little too fond of his own voice. If he's the nominee, yea, I'll vote for him; but no, I won't work for him.

The only potential candidates I have any real enthusiasm for are Al Gore and Russ Feingold, so my dream ticket is Gore/Feingold...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 11:04 PM
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27. No, but let me rethink that, NO, let me list the good points...None
Love his credit card rates, he is a hell of a guy.
not presidential material, ok for a appeasement, DLC, media whore Democratic senator.
and I don't mean that in a bad way....LOL
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:00 AM
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28. Bidden is part of the PROBLEM, not part of the SOLUTION to the problems
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 12:04 AM by TankLV
of our country.

He is like the VICHY French or the GOOD GERMANS who enabled Hitler and fascism to take over.

If he's the nominee, I'll stay home.

My party will have officially abandoned it's progressive principles in favor of phony patriotism and knee-jerk cowardice.

He, joementum, zell and a host of other will NEVER get my vote.

Give me a reason to vote FOR somebody.

You don't, you'll only have yourselves to blame, not me.

Ignore the progressive BASE at your peril.

He should just go away and SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

He is giving aid and comfort to the REPUKES too often for my tastes.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:25 AM
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29. Biden? Hell NO!!!
MBNA whore! He voted for Bankruptcy bill!!
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:05 AM
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30. Who'd do all the Sunday morning shows then?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:09 AM
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32. no
we can do much better than Biden
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:06 AM
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33. Well I did like Neil Kinnock

and I seem to remember that Biden has a somewhat similar background....
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:42 AM
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36. Problem. Not solution.
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