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espera17 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:38 PM
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Bill Richardson for President
Everyone seems to be ignoring Populist Bill Richardson as a viable candidate for 2008. Current Governor of New Mexico, Richardson has high approval among Democrats AND Republicans. His Populist ideology will help him carry NM, AZ, OH, and FL! Here is an excerpt from a blogger that summarizes his positions (this is from http://californianintexas.blogspot.com ) :

First of all, let me say I have looked at all of the names being tossed out there from both sides and have studied their accomplishments. 2008 will be a year like no other, and there will be many great candidates. But after looking at all of the facts and figures, only one name stands out. That name is Governor Bill Richardson.

Why Bill Richardson? First of all, he’s a governor of a swing state in the West. According to CNN, in the 2004 Presidential election Bush had 376,930 votes to Kerry’s 370,942 votes. That’s a difference of 5988 votes. The FEC notes that in the 2000 election Al Gore had 286,783 votes to Bush’s 286,417. These election results clearly show that New Mexico is closely divided and can go either way in a general election. However, in 2002, CNN reports that by a vote of 256,561 votes for Bill Richardson to 177,739 votes for his opponent, John Sanchez, or 56% to 39%, and Richardson was elected governor. Richardson has proven his ability to get elected in a swing state. And with swing states making all the difference in recent presidential elections, Richardson appears more electable, in this regard, than some of the other potential Democratic nominees. A February 13, 2005 Survey USA poll shows Richardson enjoying 64% approval versus only 32% disapproval. Those numbers rank right up there with Schweitzer who is among the most popular governors in the nation.

I’m not going to dwell on it, but another advantage Richardson has is that he is a Governor and not a United States Senator. You can argue until you’re blue in the face, but reality is that in the last 30 years the only 2 Democrats who were elected President were governors. I’m not judging right or wrong, only presenting fact. Senators have extensive voting records that can be picked apart by the best opposition research teams that money can buy. Governors have executive experience that Senators don’t, and though they do create policy, they don’t vote yes or no on the legislation of the day. Granted, Richardson served as Congressman of New Mexico’s 3rd District for 15 years, but that was at least a decade ago, and many of his opponents are current U.S. Senators voting on the current issues that face our nation.

Governor Richardson is also of Hispanic origin. His mother, Maria Louisa Lopez-Collada was Mexican. The Hispanic vote is being increasingly courted by both sides in elections, and having Richardson as the only Latino in the race for the Democratic nomination will bode well for him. This isn’t to say that Richardson can take the Hispanic vote for granted, just that as one of their own, he possesses an advantage in that community that other candidates do not.

Governor Richardson's record speaks for itself. First, let's look at what he has done in New Mexico.

Governor Richardson promised when he ran for office to work tirelessly on behalf of all New Mexicans. During the Governor's first two legislative sessions, 78 out of 95 proposals outlined during his State of the State addresses have become reality - for an 82% success rate.

Overall, more than 90% of the initiatives that Governor Richardson promised during the 2002 campaign have become reality - everything from cutting income taxes and eliminating the tax on food to paying teachers better and increasing penalties for drunken drivers.

As a result, New Mexico is a state that is on the move. New Mexico is no longer at the bottom of all the state-by-state comparison lists. Under Governor Richardson's leadership, 27,400 jobs have been created since he took office in January 2003. That's more than double the 12,300 jobs that were created during the 16 previous months.

During his first year in office, Governor Richardson worked with educators, business leaders, labor activists, rural towns, urban communities, Republicans and Democrats to make major changes in New Mexico's public schools. The governor helped to convince voters to invest money in classrooms, not administration, while holding teachers and students accountable. The changes have resulted in 8 percent pay raises for teachers, and a new professional salary system that is the envy of the nation.

Governor Richardson is moving New Mexico forward, and it is making a difference in the lives of New Mexico families.

Early on as a congressman, he kept his interest in foreign relations. He visited Nicaragua, Guatemala, Cuba, Peru, India, North Korea, Bangladesh, Nigeria, and the Sudan to represent U.S. interests. In 1995, he traveled to Baghdad with Peter Bourne and engaged in lengthy one-on-one negotiations with Saddam Hussein to secure the release of two American aerospace workers who had been captured by the Iraqis after wandering over the Kuwaiti border. He also secured the release of an Albuquerque resident who was kept hostage in Sudan. He also successfully won the release of hostages, American servicemen, and prisoners in North Korea, Iraq and Cuba. Richardson clearly understands the energy crisis in the United States and how our dependence on foreign oil is a threat to our national security in ways no other candidate does. He became a member of the Democratic leadership, where he worked closely with Bill Clinton on several issues.

In 1997, Clinton appointed him as U. S. Ambassador to the United Nations. He served there until 1998, when he was appointed as U.S. Secretary of Energy. He served there for the remainder of the Clinton administration. Both posts gave him a significant amount of experience on the global stage. Early in his career Bill Richardson was a staffer for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Richardson is currently serving as the chairman of the National Governors’ Association, just as Bill Clinton did prior to his run for President. This means that Bill Richardson has a national platform from which to get his name out.

With this kind of experience, who is more qualified? With all of his experience in government, at both the state and federal levels, Governor Richardson has the necessary contacts and ability to raise the money necessary to run for President. That fundraising ability will be tested if Senator Clinton gets into the race.

It is no coincidence that Al Gore and John Kerry both considered Richardson for Vice President when they won the Democratic nomination…because a Vice President must be ready to step up should something happen to the President. Gore and Kerry believed Richardson to be among those ready to be President. So do I.

Get on the bandwagon now. Bill Richardson 2008!


So let's support Richardson. He can carry New Mexico and most likely Arizona, and he is a Populist, which will help him win Ohio and Florida!

Here's my plug: http://electionpredictions.blogspot.com
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:40 PM
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1. Is he DLC?
I agree that he is a strong candidate and I'd much rather have him than Hillary. However, is Richardson a DLC'er?

He should be speaking on the immigration issue to get his name out there. He is Hispanic and in a border state, so I'd think he'd be asked to be on a lot of shows in the near future.
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espera17 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:43 PM
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16. I am not sure.
If you visit the blog the inset is from, there is more info on Richardson.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:35 PM
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41. yes, he's DLC
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251963&kaid=104&subid=116">See this link but that shouldn't automatically dq someone. Richardson is not a zombie just for being in the DLC. I worked for Howard Dean, and I was a DLC member.

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:41 PM
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2. Yes, well, I guess I would stomach him. nt
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:41 PM
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3. I'm not forgetting about Richardson
I will look at him very carefully.

1) He is one of the most qualified candidates with broad experience in foreign as well as domestic policy.

2) You are correct he would probably bring NM, Arizona, Colorado and Nevada to the table.

3) He will have great appeal to one of the fastest growing segments of our electorate--latinos and would in all probability do what JFK did with the Catholic vote--increase turnout and win it by huge margins--remember the GOP has been making some inroads with Latinos in the last few election cycles.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:16 PM
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42. Good points... Im going to give him a look in '08.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:43 PM
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4. I am not ignoring him at all--he has a LOT going for him
His pluses:

Fits the paradigm of late--a GOVERNOR, as opposed to a Senator. And ya don't have to be a big state guv to win (See: Clinton, Bill).

Populist, as mentioned.

Despite last name, he is a gen-u-wine HISPANIC, which would make him the first Hispanic Presidente. He could actually TALK to our neighbors to the south, beyond the friken "taco y cerveza" Spanglish that Monkeyboy calls Spanish.

How we will know he is running: He will get a few new, well-cut suits, pay closer attention to his haircuts, and drop about 35 pounds.
That's been his modus operandi in the past!

If not the Prez, the Vice...he could bring a LOT to the ticket. He is as savvy as they come, and has a fine, thoughtful mind.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:44 PM
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5. I live in New Mexico and I'd like to point out a few things about
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 04:48 PM by Warpy
Bill Richardson that out of staters might not know.

During the Clinton administration, he was instrumental in pursuing the witch hunt against Dr. Wen Ho Lee, a Los Alamos scientist who was unfairly accused of spying, had his career and finances ruined, and still has not recovered. The charges were made of thin air and wishful thinking by a suit with a grudge.

Richardson campaigned on ending the sales tax on food in New Mexico, but the first thing he did in office was lower the top income bracket on the few extremely rich people in New Mexico. That created such a shortfall in the state budget that he had to dip into a PERMANENT FUND that was never meant to be tapped in order to pay the TEACHERS.

A little more than two years down the line, he did end the sales tax on food, but made it "revenue neutral" by jacking up other sales taxes, licensing fees, and registration fees, giving most non plutocrat New Mexicans a net TAX INCREASE.

After the election of 2004, when election boards reported that 17,000 more New Mexicans apparently got out to vote for a judge or two than voted in the national election, Richardson STOPPED all efforts at a recount and audit of crooked ES&S voting machines, even when precincts had reported that 100% of the complaints about those machines had favored Bush.

Only a very ugly lawsuit about the 2004 vote persuaded Richardson to sign our paper ballot law, after which he issued a statement that is a study in hypocrisy.

I know you think this guy is a populist because that's the image he likes to project. However, he's DLC, antilabor, procorporate all the way and will go whichever way the wind blows.

Avoid him at all costs.

He would be a good Secretary of State, though. He's proven to be a fine international negotiator.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:58 PM
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7. Thanks for this must read post!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:20 PM
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12. I have a number of NM friends,
democrats all, and all would agree w/ your assessment 100%. Their, less than sterling, opinion of Richardson has caused me 2 take a closer look. I'm not thrilled about supporting what I saw.
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confuddled Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:25 PM
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14. Yes, a very savvy fellow, indeed.
I second Warpy's caveat. While very popular with many New Mexicans, I don't trust the man as far as I could throw him, especially since he imperiously stopped the clearly indicated 2004 election recount; New Mexico is now a red state. Does that tell you anything about this very savvy populist Hispanic governor?
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:37 PM
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15. no more vote thieves, or their allies, in the white house.
i don't care- red, blue, green, brown, black, yellow, or rainbow striped.
anyone who is complicit, or silent, on bbv, and any other vote fraud just will not get my vote anymore. period. ever.
his shut down of the recount makes him an accomplice. and wasn't sproul and assoc indicted in new mexico?
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 06:08 PM
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18. I see Richardson and Clark very similarly
Both would make great cabinet members. Just not the entire package to be President like Feingold, Gore, or maybe Edwards.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:07 PM
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22. How is Edwards the "whole Package"?
And how is Clark...Not?
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:18 PM
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24. I said maybe on Edwards
the word is still out on him. I have 2 things against Clark. 1)He skipped Iowa, so I just don't know as much about him and 2) I hope that Iraq is not as big of an issue in 2008, so the need for a General isn't as great. I think the time for Clark was 2004.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:59 PM
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26. Bush has already said we are going to be in Iraq till after he's gone
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 10:02 PM by FrenchieCat
and he normally keeps his word on the fucked up things.

If you think that Pandora's Box is just gonna close and all will be alright, then you are an optimist of the first magnitude, while I, on the other hand figure that if it can get worse before it gets better, it will. We are going into our 4th year of war and our government is building permanent bases up the Iraq's wazoo (4 are under construction as we speak)......

the need for a Rhodes scholar intellectual strategic thinker with experience on Global affairs will be required in 2008 more so than it was in 2004. Edwards has none of that.....so I guess that his lack of creds keeps him in the running only if one wants to think that Bush will do all that we want him to up to 2007!

We are gonna need a fighter to get us back to a place where we can start making some progress.

I just don't think so!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:27 AM
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32. He's a "cronyist" almost as bad as Bush
Richardson decided to implement a plan that would give the state's entire Medicaid managed mental health services to ONE company, instead of dividing up among the state's managed care organizations as it had been done for years. No one could figure out why in the hell he was doing this. Then a company based in VIRGINIA, ValueOptions, got the contract, which seemed even more bizarre...until you realized that the President of ValueOptions was Ron Dozoretz, whose wife Beth was the chief fundraiser for the DNC.

I'm sick of that kind of shit. Aren't you?
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:49 AM
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35. I agree
and will NOT forget his role in election theft and its coverup.
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nmliberal Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:54 PM
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39. NM"s Sec'y of State stopped efforts at recount
NM's Sec'y of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron and her Election Bureau Director Denise Lamb(who just happens to be National Association of State Election Directors president) were the ones who strongly advised the Governor that the machines could be trusted, and that is the chain of comman. Damn them. But I hate seeing Richardson blamed for his Sec'y of State's advice.

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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:56 PM
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6. I like him alot, especially a president who would know energy!
I also like his pro gun rights stance.

The previous poster did mention some stuff that needs to be considered, but as far as the Los Alamos thing, I spoke with a scientist who worked with that person and he said what he did was outright stupid.

I think Richardson should run, but I bet he will at best be a VP candidate just because he isn't known very well.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:07 PM
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11. pro-gun
That is one of our stumbling blocks, I know of a lot of real progressive environmentalists who are pro-gun.

As far as I remember it was Richardson who let my "prima" and the rest of the Texas 11 into NM to get away from the GOP Texas redistricting quorum.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 06:57 PM
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19. I agree alot...
"That is one of our stumbling blocks, I know of a lot of real progressive environmentalists who are pro-gun."

Were I grew up was heavy in the union camp but very red, largely b/c of gun rights. Most didn't think any party would do something to protect their jobs, so firearms became the most important issue...in addition many strongly believe the right to keep and bear arms is an actual right.

Hunters are largely environmentalists as well, despite the stereotype otherwise. It would be a nice cross over vote for us if we could reach them with a pro gun , pro enviro ticket.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:00 PM
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8. He's too soft on Republicans...
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 05:01 PM by Totally Committed
Al Gore and John Kerry both considered him for their VP because they were DLC during the time of their campaigns, and the DLC put him on their lists for the reason I just gave. Nothing is left to chance where the DLC is concerned. God forbid a real Democratic firebrand gets on the ticket and ruffles any Republican or Corporate feathers!

TC
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:02 PM
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9. Shallow Post Alert: He's too portly. Won't play well , even in Peoria.
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:05 PM
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10. I think he could win.
Definately watching him.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:21 PM
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13. Nope. Hey, let's get through the theft of the '06 selection before we...
..decide whom to sacrifice in '08...okay? ;-)
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:58 PM
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17. If the Republicans keep up with the immigration bills...
Richardson will win with a massive amount of latino votes. Stupid Republicans are unifying the one minority group that was starting to vote in their favor, completely against them.

Thanks GOP!

Rp
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:00 PM
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20. Here's one reason why Bill Richardson is not on my list:
While press releases are nice, I want to see his position on issues I care about to see if I think he's earned my support. So I plug him into votesmart to see where he is on the issues I care about, and this is what I get:

<snip>

Over the course of several weeks this candidate repeatedly refused requests by citizens in the candidate's own state, leaders of both major political parties, major news organizations and Project Vote Smart staff to provide voters with essential issue information in the National Political Awareness Test.

This candidate would not provide this information to citizens in the candidate's own state - no matter who asked them, when they were asked or how they were asked.

Urge Governor Bill Richardson to fill out the NPAT

Capitol Web Address:
http://www.governor.state.nm.us/
Capitol Web Mail Address:
http://www.governor.state.nm.us/emailcho ...


http://www.vote-smart.org/npat.php?can_id=H2505103

I'm not willing to support a candidate who is not willing to provide information about his positions on the issues.

So I checked out the archives, where he had stepped forward with his positions in 1996.

http://www.vote-smart.org/npat.php?old=true&can_id=H2505103&npatform_id=11#14

I'm an educator; I clicked on "education" first.

In 1996, he supported vouchers.

Next, "healthcare." He is, or was, not with me on calling for universal health care for all.

Next I turned to "Trade." He's a NAFTA supporter. Or was in 1996.

That's enough for me. There were other issues he wasn't bad on; environment was ok. Immigration was kind of interesting; he doesn't think children born in the U.S. to illegals should be citizens.

Still, there are better choices out there. I'll start with people who are willing to put their issues on the line.










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espera17 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:28 PM
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21. Not an issue of importance
Many, many politicians have not taken that test.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:33 PM
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25. Maybe not to you.
It's an issue of importance to me. Since he'd given information previously, I can't think of a transparent reason not to this time.

And, based on his positions on issues when he did, he wouldn't have my vote anyway.

Issues, and a candidate's stated positions and past record on those issues, are the first "litmus test" for me. If they don't pass MY issues test, they aren't going to get my vote.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:21 PM
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23. I am sadden that Gov. Richardson is the ONLY Hispanic Hope
ever put out there and that there are no others ever mentioned. He's really tainted. He will be swiftboated pronto....and the problem is that he has no answer to the issue that will be used to torpedo him.


Original Reporting as told back then circa 1999-2000...

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872860.html
Bill Richardson, energy secretary, lost virtually any chance to become Vice President Al Gore's running mate when two computer drives containing nuclear secrets were reported missing from the Los Alamos weapons laboratory in June. The drives were recovered behind a copy machine in a secure area of the lab. The incident is the second security breach in less than a year. Los Alamos nuclear scientist Wen Ho Lee was arrested last year on security violations charges after he allegedly copied top-secret files onto an unsecure computer.

http://slate.msn.com/id/84864 /
Energy Secretary Bill Richardson
He schmoozes. He loses.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/06/16/losalamos.disks/index.html
Missing nuclear secrets found behind Los Alamos copy machine

http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=nd99gusterson
Los Alamos: A summer under siege

http://www.brookings.edu/views/op-ed/light/20000628.htm
Layers to Los Alamos
Firing Richardson won't solve the problem. He would just be replaced by another secretary who would perch 50 layers from the front lines. Moreover, Richardson can hardly be blamed for layers that were created in previous waves of reform.

But Richardson should be held accountable for appointing the same people to hold posts in the new National Nuclear Security Administration and the old undersecretaryship for nuclear security. This "dual-hatting," as Richardson calls it, creates considerable confusion about just who has the authority to act.


http://www.quarterly-report.com/human_interest/wen_ho_lee.html
We ask today, Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, have you no sense of decency?
In early March 1999, Bill Richardson was utterly paranoid to save his hide as a potential vice-presidential candidate to Al Gore. He needed a scapegoatHe found his sacrificial lamb in the diminutive, soft-soften Dr. Wen Ho Lee, a nuclear scientist at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. What Richardson and the Clinton Administration subsequently engineered against Dr. Lee is an outrage.

A Summary of the Case

Dr. Lee was born in Taiwan and was naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1974. His status as an Asian-American made him a perfect fall guy for alleged Chinese espionage at U.S. nuclear laboratories. In an orgy of self-protective lies, Richardson, aided by other corrupt executive branch officials, inexcusably branded Dr. Lee as a super spy to suppress the media damage arising from Richardson’s maladministration of the Energy Department. They accused the diminutive, soft-spoken Dr. Lee as "the one" who had passed nuclear secrets to the People’s Republic of China, in spite of the fact that Dr. Lee had passed his December 1998 Energy Department polygraph exam. 1/ The following chronology demonstrates how quickly Richardson acted to save his deluded vice-presidential aspirations in early 1999.

March 5: CBS News breaks the story of a soon-to-be-released
congressional report - The Cox Report -- on security
lapses and alleged Chinese spying at U.S. nuclear
facilities.

The FBI interrogates Dr. Lee.

March 6: The New York Times reports that an unnamed
Chinese-American scientist at Los Alamos is a suspect
in the FBI investigation.

March 7: The FBI gives Dr. Lee a polygraph examination.

March 8: Richardson directs the University of California to fire
Dr. Lee.
Aftermath - Richardson's Role in an Executive Branch Conspiracy

Richardson claimed that Dr. Lee was fired for failing to safeguard properly classified material among other charges. After Dr. Lee’s dismissal, Richardson said that the government "will not tolerate the theft of our secrets."

To dupe the American people into believing that the "FBI had got their man," the Clinton Administration upped the ante against Dr. Lee. On Saturday, December 4, 1999, in the White House Situation Room, Attorney General Reno, FBI Director Freeh, Richardson, and other top Clinton advisors decided to pursue criminal charges against Lee for mishandling nuclear secrets under the 1954 Atomic Energy Act. 2/

Six days later, a federal grand jury in Albuquerque returned 59 indictments against the sixty-year-old Dr. Lee, and the FBI arrested him on December 10. Then, Richardson, in concert with the Administration’s Gestapo justice department, levied the full weight of pre-trial sanctions on Dr. Lee.

It was Richardson who ordered that Dr. Lee be kept in solitary confinement. For 279 days, Dr. Lee was denied bail and was held in extraordinary harsh conditions -– leg shackles when outside his cell and solitary when he was there. He was continually monitored 24 hours a day. It took Richardson five months before he allowed Dr. Lee to have reading materials, longer exercise periods, and more frequency visits with his family.

On September 13, 2000, a plea agreement with the government was reached. Dr. Lee pled guilty to one count of downloading nuclear data to an unsecure computer. The remaining 58 charges were dismissed. 3/ Chief U.S. District Court Judge James A. Parker sentenced Dr. Lee to time already served and released him from prison. The government’s abrupt about face caused Judge Parker to react with amazement, incredulity, anger, regret, and sadness. 4/

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espera17 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:16 PM
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27. Wow.
I didn't know he had all that baggage. We definitely need a Hispanic to run for President like Menendez.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:33 PM
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29. I would love to see a young Hispanic, like Loretta Sanchez be
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 10:34 PM by FrenchieCat
a VP on a ticket (preferably with Gen. Clark) for 2008!

Please Look into Sanchez as the ideal VP to counterbalance a strong defense alpha male type (Clark), as opposed to a Richardson to add diversity on race and gender and age to the democratic ticket. I can guarantee you that putting this strong woman (who has a very compelling life story) on the ticket would attract many votes in the southwest as well as other states with a high Hispanic population.

Sanchez kicked some righteous butt, if I recall correctly. She beat Bob Dorman, a Republican incumbent who was a real piece of work in Orange County, a very Republican district.

That ticket could possibly kick ass in defense, draw strong from all minority groups (especially Hispanics), and women would love voting for her, cause she's real and competent. She has a strong domestic background too, and came from very humble circumstances.

http://www.lorettasanchez.house.gov/display2.cfm?id=805...
Congresswoman Sanchez is the ranking woman of the House Armed Services Committee. She has served on the Terrorism Panel of this Committee, where she joined other Members to investigate intelligence progress and terrorist threats to the United States.
While serving on the Homeland Security Committee, Congresswoman Sanchez took a leave of absence from the House Committee on Education and the Workforce, which oversees education and labor issues. During her tenure on the Committee, she has protected parental involvement initiatives and successfully saved national gender equity in education program. She spearheaded efforts to promote school safety. Congresswoman Sanchez is a member of the Hispanic Caucus, the Blue Dog Democrats, the New Democratic Coalition, and the Congressional Human Rights Caucus. She also is a member of the Women's Congressional Caucus, the Older Americans Caucus, the Law Enforcement Caucus, and the Congressional Sportsman's Caucus.


Loretta Sanchez' sister, Linda Sanchez, who is also a congresswoman. First sister team ever to serve at the same time.
http://www.lindasanchez.house.gov/index.cfm?section=abo...
ABOUT LINDA SANCHEZ
Congresswoman Linda Sánchez was sworn into office on January 7, 2003 to represent the newly created 39th Congressional District of California. The 39th District includes the cities of Artesia, Cerrritos, Hawaiian Gardens, Lakewood, La Mirada, Lynwood, Paramount, and South Gate (in their entirety), a large portion of Whittier, small portions of Long Beach and Los Angeles, and parts of unincorporated Los Angeles County - East La Mirada, Florence-Graham, Los Nietos, West Whittier, and Willlowbrook. Sánchez’s service is historic as she joins her sister Loretta (D–Garden Grove) in the U.S. House. They are the first sisters and the first women of any relation to ever serve in Congress.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:33 PM
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28. As long as it's not of the United States I'm fine with the idea.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:36 PM
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30. he was my pick for vice president in 2004
but I don't think I'd want him at the top of the ticket. For reasons articulated by others in this thread, I don't entirely trust his populist persona.
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espera17 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:50 AM
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31. Warner
What about Mark Warner?
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:56 AM
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33. So is he a populist or not
Some are calling him a populist, others a corporatist. He can't be both I don't think.
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Daylin Byak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:44 AM
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34. God almighty...
I know i'm not going to provide scientific facts in this post but i must ask this question, isn't there any good candidates that that want to run for President,I mean come on Evan Bayh, Bill Richardson, Mark Warner ALL FUCKING DLC.

Isn't there anyone out there we can trust?

Anyone?
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espera17 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:32 PM
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36. What is DLC? and what is their mission?
sorry I should probably know that
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:19 PM
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37. Link:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:20 PM
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38. This may sound shallow and insensitive, but
I'm not sure that the American electorate will will accept a guy who is obese.
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Daylin Byak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:28 PM
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40. Taft was obese...
He was a shitty president(and i'm not saying that cause he was a republican)but he was obese.

He was so obese, he was stuck in a bathtub once and they had to make a special tub just for him.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:37 AM
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43. In the age of TV, image is very important
People like Taft and Lincoln probably couldn't get elected in this day and age.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:01 AM
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44. not until he explains the election fraud in 2004, and why he hurriedly
covered it up and wiped the voting machine clean so we couldnt see where the fraud was. i am in te state next to richardson, and i saw obvious election fraud, and i saw richardson do all in his power to make sure that didnt come to the light of the day. i wont support him until i know why
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