Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Please DU action on IRS selling private tax return info! Thanks!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:18 PM
Original message
Please DU action on IRS selling private tax return info! Thanks!
The IRS is considering allowing tax preparers to sell your tax return information to private companies. And you'll have no control over how that company will use your data, who else they'll give it to, or whether or not they'll safeguard it from identity thieves.

Ask the IRS to abandon this proposal, and keep taxpayers' returns private. Then, ask your friends and family to help by forwarding this e-mail to them.

To take action, click on the following link or paste it into your browser:

http://calpirg.org/CA.asp?id=1362&id4=ES


Background:

Your tax returns contain extremely sensitive, personal financial information most Americans wouldn't want the world to see, such as your income, how much you claim in medical expenses, how much you spend on child care and, of course, your contact information. Up until now, you could trust that your tax returns would remain private, and only you, your accountant, and the IRS had access to them.

But now the IRS has proposed shocking new rules that would allow your tax preparer to share or sell the contents of your tax returns with a third party, as long as you sign a form giving them permission.

That's great news for companies like Choicepoint that make millions of dollars selling your personal information to marketers that want to barrage you with advertising. And it's a pot of gold for identity thieves, who would love to get a hold of your tax return to make it easier for them to commit fraud. In fact, just since January 2005, identity thieves have successfully broken into databases at Choicepoint and dozens of other companies over the last two years and stolen sensitive personal information on hundreds of millions of Americans. Over 9 million Americans are victims of identity theft each year, according to the Federal Trade Commission.

Here's how it would work if the proposal is adopted: when you visit your accountant or a tax preparation firm like H&R Block, your tax preparer would ask you to sign a form authorizing them to release your information to a specific corporation like Choicepoint, Mastercard or any other company. Once you sign that form, your tax preparer has permission to sell the information contained in your tax filings to the company. And you have no control over how that company will use your data, who else they'll give it to, or whether or not they'll safeguard it from identity thieves.

Under the proposal, consumers have the right to refuse to sign the form and stop their information from being shared. But that's not good enough. A consumer needs to trust the person she's hired to prepare and file her taxes, the very person who tells her to "sign here, sign there" on a seemingly endless number of forms. Slipping a document in that shuffle of paperwork violates the trust between the consumer and her paid tax preparer.

Many consumers may not realize they're giving away the rights to such highly sensitive information, or may feel pressured to sign the form in front of their tax preparer. And there's nothing in the IRS rules to prohibit tax preparers from offering special incentives in exchange for giving up your privacy.

On March 8, 2006 CALPIRG joined other state PIRGs, along with the National Consumer Law Center and the Consumer Federation of America to file formal comments with the IRS in opposition to this rule. The coalition of consumer groups also criticized other elements of the proposal that would allow tax preparers to more easily market their own services such as Refund Anticipation Loans which contain outrageous fees.

For more information about the proposed rules, you can click on the link to the San Francisco Chronicle story below or paste it into your browser:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/09/BUGEAHKOC034.DTL

Ask the IRS to abandon this proposal, and keep taxpayers' returns private. Then, ask your friends and family to help by forwarding this e-mail to them.

To take action, click on the following link or paste it into your browser:

http://calpirg.org/CA.asp?id=1362&id4=ES

Sincerely,

Steve Blackledge
CALPIRG Legislative Director
SteveB@calpirg.org
http://www.CALPIRG.org

P.S. Thanks again for your support. Please feel free to share this e-mail with your family and friends.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:21 PM
Response to Original message
1. Will do. This SICKENS me....... n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
2. Done! And this makes me sick too. Will the madness ever end???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
3. Some Tax Preparers are already selling this info. From my understanding,
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 03:11 PM by IsItJustMe
there are apparently no laws against it at the current time. I would think though that your more reputable firms (ie H&R) would not do this but you may want to check with your tax preparer to see and keep this in mind the next time you file.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. let's name names I'll start
any software you buy to prep your taxes, say, Turbotax, etc., already states that they can do what they see fit with your tax data if you submit for electronic filing or use their online preparation tools.

The information from your returns is sold to credit agencies, marketers, third party information resellers (i.e., list brokers), etc.

Print out the privacy agreement / legal section and read it - you'll be stunned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. That sicken's me. I was directed to Turbo Tax by the IRS. Now I know why
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. I just contacted. They said
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 03:10 PM by IsItJustMe
NO, We provide professional tax services to help you with your taxes.

Who knows?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. hey, just go set up an online account.
Go all the way through to accepting the software agreement, print it out, then click no.

Technically they're right, they don't sell tax documents.

They sell lists of names, zip codes, incomes, demographic data. How do you suppose that three competing agencies all have access to your income and banking records?

Pull a full credit report on yourself - you will find your average bank balance in each account, income from the last three years of tax returns, the real estate you own, unpaid debt on property, make and model of vehicles, approximate value of vehicles, other special assets, etc. etc. in addition to your loan and revolving credit payment history.

It's astonishing - and every time you sign a "background" or "credit" check ALL of this information is available to your prospective clients, employers, etc., and their third party affiliates.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:27 PM
Response to Original message
4. I was shocked when I couldn't tele-a file my taxes ..
this year and instead had to use a private company to file electronically. I sent it in by snail mail so a private company couldn't get their hands on my return. This is bull shit! Bushco is up to no good as usual.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. It's a part of the overall spy on us program. It seems that it is
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 02:37 PM by IsItJustMe
illegal for government agencies to directly check on certain records, so they create work around. I think this a part of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. I had no idea about turbo tax! Good grief, this is like having private
companies control our voting machine codes! Outrageous!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. I contacted them. They said they don't. Who knows?
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 03:08 PM by IsItJustMe
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. hmmmm, then it's not them and just our plain old federal gvt-IRS?
We pay the IRS taxes to sell our info?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:31 PM
Response to Original message
7. Done
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:36 PM
Response to Original message
9. recommended and
and kicked :kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 11:41 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC