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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:59 PM
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Did anyone see Dan Abrams
talk about Kerry's list for hotels? He ended by saying something like now Cheney seems like a great guy to stay with. Pissed me off.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:02 PM
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1. Kerry=No One Cares
Why they insist on smearing failed, former candidates rather than current threats is beyond me.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:09 PM
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3. And many GOPs wish Kerry would stay away - Nixon, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2
and every other BFEE figure caught up in his anti-corruption efforts.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:28 PM
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4. Well
you do not speak for everyone.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:35 PM
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8. I'm not saying I don't care
but the vast bulk of America thinks:

Kerry: So Over.

Cheney: scary vice president right now.

So they're wasting their time attacking Kerry.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:40 PM
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9. Oh really
and have you spoken to this vast majority. If you do care then why even say it. Move along.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:47 PM
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13. Yes, every last goddam one.
Including you. And you agreed too.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:48 PM
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23. The only time America is afraid of Chaney is when he has a gun. n/t
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:46 PM
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21. Well, I care. Don't I count? I still would support Kerry in another run
and I consider him one of the top Dem leaders.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:59 AM
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27. Truth is, if no one cared, the Repubs wouldn't bother
He must be having an effect for them to even bother looking in his direction.

And failed candidate or not, he's still a Senator. At the least, the folks in Massachusetts care.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:54 PM
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36. Oh, they care.
That's exactly why they keep trying to smear him.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:07 PM
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2. Kerry uncovered IranContra - Elliot Abrams indicted for IranContra crimes
Dan Abrams HATES Kerry - Elliot is his cousin.

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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:30 PM
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5. Thanks for the explaination
I couldn't get why he would say that it would be better to stay with Cheney when Cheney wants all TVs on Fox. Kerry sounds like a really healthy guy.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:34 PM
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7. That list
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 05:42 PM by fedupinBushcountry
was made during his recovery of prostate cancer. Teresa made sure he was eating healthy.

Also the list was not made for hotels, it was made by and for Kerry staffers.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:15 PM
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12. Abrams deserves an e-mail about this.
He DOES read some of them out loud.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:25 PM
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16. Thanks for the correction...
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 07:27 PM by blue cat
which only pisses me off even more at that rat fucker. He made fun of his politeness and likened it to flip-flopping.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:39 PM
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18. Dan Abrams is a RETHUG.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:51 PM
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24. I wasn't aware of that! Why do they let these people report on
people when it is obvious they can't report fairly?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:43 AM
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29. And, of course, Abrams made viewers aware of his bias against Kerry.
Why do I feel the answer to this question is, "no."

Another jouranlist with no ethics.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:54 AM
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30. GOP bought up media control so they could cover up their corruption
and so no Watergate, IranContra, or BCCI investigation would ever get proper coverage in the public arena.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:32 PM
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6. I worked at a Kerry event
behind the scenes preparing for the media. They should put the list out of what the media wanted. They were treated like royalty with everything they needed and wanted.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:42 PM
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10. Missed Dan...but MSNBC has been calling Kerry
a "pansy-assed diva" all day in their little giggle segments. I SAW the rider, they're just sucking "dick's cheney" big time today.

I had no problem with the Kerry list, just proved his advance team was better educated than the Cheney's, and was hoping they'd start a travel agency :D
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:07 PM
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11. How would they treat Lance Armstrong's post-cancer menu needs at hotels?
Media conveniently forgets that Kerry had cancer surgery in early 2003. Even mocked his looks and yelled BOTOX comparing pics of him in 2003 during cancer treatment and in 2004 after he finally got some rest post-primaries.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:02 PM
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15. Exactly !
I didn't even take the Cheney rider that seriously, it was staffers trying to make their bosses as comfortable as possible. Also Kerry's cancer history, as well as we all know Cheney's heart history.....Smoking Gun was much ado about nuttin' :)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:52 PM
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14. Wolf Blitzer discussed Kerry yesterday
Makes me think that this is an organized effort to deflect attention from Bush's Cardinal Richelieu.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:34 PM
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17. I just thought he looked puerile
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:49 PM
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19. And he was..
childish. Like a little tattletale who gets his facts wrong.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:36 AM
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28. Gets the facts wrong and sticks by them - typical GOP mediawhore.
.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:43 PM
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20. It's MSNBC and they have a grudge against Kerry. Remember
"Lets Play Real Hardball"? That e-mail from Kerry singling out Mathews for not being fair ,pissed them off.
Let Abrams stay with Cheney, I would suggest a bullet proof vest and a ten minute head start.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:47 PM
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22. Can't stand that little prick.....perhaps cheney will shoot him
in the face one day.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:59 AM
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32. If dan abrams likes
dick so much he should go hunting with him.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:58 PM
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25. I missed it. What about his list of hotels?
What are they saying?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:47 PM
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33. I'd like to know also. I just heard a snippet saying he doesn't want
tomato products and they make a joke about that and his wife's Heinz fortune.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:40 PM
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38. Kerry's cancer treatment meds effected what he could eat at that time.
Media always ignores that fact in their haste to mock any Democrat.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:57 AM
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26. I think a list BEFORE you go to hotelis a great idea. Keeps the
unnecessary trips by staff into your room to a minimum. You don't have to wait for room service for obvious pre-listed stuff.
I hate when by rooms been entered thruout the day.
It's actually a security risk for kerry and other politicos
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:49 PM
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34. If you didn't have a list and had to spend months on the road imagine
how fat and constipated you'd get!
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 10:22 AM
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31. abrams show sucks - I stopped watching it a long time ago!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:50 PM
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35. Cheney's a 'great guy to stay with' ?? WTF ??
Crash cart on standby, pissy demands for specific food/drink/media, not to mention ~ oh he might SHOOT you if he gets pissed off (which seems to happen often) ... yeah, my idea of a perfect traveling companion ?!?!?


:wtf:
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:01 PM
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37. I bet Cheney's the kind of room mate who would....
let a rotten smelling fart and then vehemently deny doing so when there is only one other person staying in the room with him and if one persisted saying "own up to it" he'd reply "Bin Laden must have done it" and "quit being disloyal and traitorous to the US."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 03:07 PM
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39. No kidding - that is so easy to picture, it's almost not funny.
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