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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:37 PM
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Do you side w/GOPs on censure or Feingold's moving censure into committee
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 06:11 PM by blm
to keep the debate and further investigation of NSA spying?

The day that Feingold moved censure into committee is the day that that he needed support to shift to the INVESTIGATION of NSA spying as part of the censure debate. He has key Dems like Kennedy, Durbin and Jeffords supporting investigation in that committee and other Dems not in committee but supporting its investigation.

Feingold said he was glad that censure moved into committee in his Ed Schultz interview two weeks ago, yet too many left bloggers haven't bothered to HEAR what he's said. Instead, some are still pushing the demand for senators to declare their vote on censure which coincides with the GOPs position to have a quick vote and move on with NO further debate and NO investigation into NSA spying.

Shame on any Dem who spreads false information that helps the GOPs kill this debate.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:42 PM
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1. People spreading the venom have no credibility
They use the actions of individual Democrats to attack other Democrats.

January 27, 2006

TODAY, WE MUST SAVE AMERICA
by Bob Fertik
http://www.opednews.com
We have just two days to save American Democracy - TODAY and MONDAY.

Through a stunning set of events, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy will lead a filibuster of Sam Alito on Monday.

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Many Democratic Senators urged Kerry not to lead a filibuster because they were afraid to stand and fight.

But Kerry is not a coward. He said, "Judge Alito's confirmation would be an ideological coup on the Supreme Court. The president has every right to nominate Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court. It's our right and our responsibility to oppose him vigorously."

You said it, John Kerry!!!!

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Feingold Ignores Fascism and Kisses Presidential Hopes Goodbye


Submitted by Bob Fertik on September 22, 2005 - 1:11pm.2008 President | John Roberts | Russ Feingold

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But today, Feingold threw it all away.

Statement of U.S. Senator Russ Feingold On the Nomination of Judge John G. Roberts To be Chief Justice of the United States

September 22, 2005

Mr. Chairman, I will vote in favor of the nomination of Judge John Roberts to be the Chief Justice of the United States. This has not been an easy decision, but I believe it is the correct one. Judge Roberts's impeccable legal credentials, his reputation and record as a fair-minded person, and his commitment to modesty and respect for precedent have persuaded me that he will not bring an ideological agenda to the position of Chief Justice of the United States and that he should be confirmed.


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Impeccable legal credentials - like being a leader of the Federalist Society - and lying about it?

Reputation and record as a fair-minded person - like helping George Bush steal the 2000 election in Florida?

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When he cast his deciding vote for Ashcroft, Feingold said "maybe I'm naive." Five years later, nothing has changed. Feingold's vote for Roberts proves his naivete is his fatal incurable character flaw - just like Bush's greed, cowardice, and stupidity.

Senator Feingold, you worse than naive - you are a suicidal idiot. Right in front of your eyes the Federalist Society - led by John Aschroft, John Roberts, and their "modest" cronies - is turning the American judicial system into an instrument of Republican Fascism. Don't you remember how they conspired to appoint Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor for Clinton, and then set a perjury trap for him? Didn't you read Bush v. Gore, which legalized the theft of the Presidency? Haven't you read the Torture Memos? Didn't you read the 4th Circuit's latest ruling in Padilla v. Rumsfeld, which gave the President the unlimited powers of a dictator? These are all the products of the Federalist Society, and they are systematic steps towards fascism.



http://www.democrats.com/feingold-supports-roberts




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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 05:52 PM
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2. I'm concerned that so many at DU are disconnected from the FACTS
and supporting the GOP position in their haste to attack other Dem lawmakers.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 06:04 PM
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3. Kick - please don't fall for GOP benefitting moves.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 06:13 PM
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4. I think its a great idea
I even think that it would be best to work for a compromise resolution that specifies what powers Bush actually does have a commander in chief and draws lines Bush and his unitary executive theory can't cross.

First, we need to build the case with the public that Bush is breaking the law. Then, we need to show that Bush continues to refuse to comply with the law.

Once those things are established, there will be no choices but censure or impeachment.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:19 PM
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5. That's exactly why Feingold DOESN'T want it voted on quickly - it will end
any chance of investigation or further debate on NSA spying.

Why so many Dems don't get that is beyond explanation at this point.
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