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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:17 PM
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The truth will set us free
I continue to be amazed at the amount of rhetoric coming from our rightie friends in response to my call for openness, for a willingness to try new things. As I said Tuesday, the more the related comment threads develop, the more my points are proven.

This wasn't my plan. I wasn't trying to set a trap. Still, some people fell into one.

What lessons can we - Democrats and Republicans - learn from exchanges like these? Is there a way for us to come together and work toward a common goal? Or will we remain a nation bitterly divided? While the jury is still out, what's already apparent is that we must continue to have these types of dialogues if we are to progress as a nation. What's also apparent is that the truth will set us free.

Do I think that America is too bitterly divided to ever heal itself again? No. I do, however, get the sense that nerves are so frayed that many out there don't see the point of trying to bridge both sides of the aisle. I haven't given up hope yet, but I have found that there is a sizeable minority of Americans who refuse to listen to reason. This minority, coincidentally, is roughly the same size as President Bush's approval rating.

These people see down as up, white as black, day as night. They see death and destruction in Iraq, yet wish to see the "good news," as though it were magically there somewhere. They read that their government may be spying on them, yet they reason it away because, you see, they've got nothing to hide. They watch as Bush lies about the disastrous after-effects of Hurricane Katrina, yet they blame the victims. In short, they're so wrong they refuse to recognize right when it's staring them in the face.

Of course, no sooner will I make those arguments than a Republican reading them will angrily reply that there's simply no budging me, either. While this is, to some degree, accurate, I would argue - and I think my friends on the left would, too - that we are rather flexible when presented with truthful evidence and well-reasoned arguments. Notice what I said. I didn't say "the opposite point." I said "truthful evidence and well-reasoned arguments."

Far too often, progressives get painted as inflexible when the arguments supposed to convince us otherwise are angry, profanity-laden, fact-free indictments of ourselves, our values and our political philosophy. For instance, do you honestly believe that "Liberals are angry" or "Liberals have no ideas" will convince any of us to change our points of view? Further, the "evidence" I've found myself confronted with of late has been, for the most part, either partially or completely inaccurate.

Accuracy. A very important concept. But one that is often absent in the political realm. Why? Why are sites like Media Matters and Think Progress so important? Why must a great deal of progressive talk radio and shows like Keith Olbermann's consist of truth-squading the right? Why do we spend a great deal of time rebutting assertions with cold, hard facts? Because the truth matters. It matters that there are myriad opinions, yet it matters more that there can be only one set of truths.

Many people these days - found quite often on the right - don't recognize that fact. They take their lead from pundits and politicians who believe that he who shouts the loudest is the most correct. This is wrong, of course, but it's why incompetents like Bill O'Reilly can even share a stage with someone like Paul Krugman. It's also why you see more of Ann Coulter on cable news than, say, Joe Conason. Not because the O'Reillys or Coulters of the world are right - they're not - but because producers know what sells. And sadly, the truth doesn't sell as well as a well-packaged lie.

So which is more important, reaching across the aisle or reporting the truth? Without a doubt, the answer is reporting the truth. Why? Because doing the latter does the former. High-ranking Republicans aren't angry about the lack of "good news" from Iraq because there's so much to report. They're angry because they're seeing the negative effects the truth is having on America's approval of their party.

On more than one occasion, I've spoken with friends who happen to be Republicans and, frequently, we agree on a lot of the issues. There's power in this agreement. There's the power to truly change for the better. There's the power to heal the bitter divide apparent in things as seemingly innocuous as a comments thread on a progressive blog. There's the power to do great things. The Republicans running America fear this power, which is why people like Karl Rove work tirelessly to keep us apart.

But it doesn't have to be that way. And the truth is what will set things right.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:25 PM
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1. This is well thought out...The Truth is an amazing thing isn't it..
It can't be hidden forever....and it seeps through the smoke screens that have been put up...

incompetents like Bill O'Reilly will go down in flames because their schtick gets tired and old....he is moving towards a has been....you are right O'Leilly and Coulter are packaged for marketing and sales ...
but as we all know when they stop makeing the $ because the public has lost interest....they are gone..... bye..bye...

Karl Rove has always only cared about himself....I think Fitz has him in a corner and Karl will sell out his mother....to save himself....

The Truth shall set America Free from the Tryanny of the * Cabal!!

Keep writing because I will keep reading!! I enjoy your writing style....:applause:
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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:28 PM
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2. Thanks!
And I agree with what you said.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:36 PM
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3. Truth is our most powerful weapon.
Welcome to DU!

Peace.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:13 AM
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6. Exactly why truth, research, facts, honesty, science and real national
discourse are under attack.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:56 PM
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4. Just for three national election cycles...
I would love to see middle-class America vote for our financial future. Forget race, forget sexual orientation, forget the peripheral issues that politicians love to throw in the water to muddy things up.

For power brokers, the game is about money. Who wins, who loses. The middle-class is the largest voting block, if you remove the issues that are used to purposely divide this group. Yet, we are always the losers, financially.

The power brokers sit back and laugh as the middle-class fights amongst ourselves over issues that for the most part, won't even remotely impact most of us. While we quarrel, spit, and snarl at each other, our pockets are being picked.

Jobs are lost. Futures destroyed. Tax burdens shifted onto us. Families destroyed.

Half of all new jobs created in recent years, pay less than $13.50 an hour. For God's sakes! Who can live on that? I mean live, not simply exist week to week, terrified that you'll lose even that $26,000 per year job.

And oh, by the way, they want to privatize social security so start saving more you irresponsible spendthrifts. And by the way, your medical insurance premiums are going up to $300 per month. And did we mention that fuel will soon hit $3.00\gallon? Ooops, forgot to mention that college tuition just went up 12%. Oh, there is that bankruptcy thing too, they made filing bankruptcy much more difficult....for the middle class.

But that's ok right? As long as they keep Bill and Ed down the street from being able to marry, as long as they pretend they want to eliminate abortion, (at least for YOUR daughter, not theirs), as long as they pretend that burning a flag is a life and death issue, as long as they pretend to care about some woman lying in a vegetative state in a Florida nursing home, as long as they claim to know that "someone" is going to come and take your guns away, but they'll stand up for you.......

I realize that for many, money does not matter. But for the vast majority of voters, it is THE issue. Lack of money creates social upheaval, it increases domestic violence, it increases substance abuse, it increases divorce, and it causes stress levels that kill.

And yet, we have a political class that is hell bent on destroying the middle class, and they are doing a fine job of it. Why? Because the middle-class is allowing it. At the present rate, I expect a distinct two-tiered society within a generation. In the mean time, apparently we are content to sit back and let them shovel money from our pockets into their already bulging coffers.

It absolutely amazes me.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:08 AM
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5. Everything that you have stated is true...
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 11:08 AM by MadMaddie
but I would forsee a civil war in this country before the middle class is entirely eliminated....too many Americans remember what America was like in good times.....where the divisions weren't destroying this country.....

It is amazing....but we are seeing some of the Goldwater Repugs wake up....we are having retired military officers stepping up and speaking out.....the Latino marches....something is stirring....I still believe there will be a major catalyst moment....I don't know if it will echo Kent State...I don't know if it will be the * cabal trying to take us to war in Iran....it's coming....

We have to continue the fight....it's not over....
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:29 AM
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7. I pray you're right......n/t
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