Feinstein says job crackdowns 'don't work'

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Holy crap.
I like her stands on lots of issues, but this one she is way off.
:mad:


Senator breaks ranks in immigration debate
By Jerry Kammer
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE

March 31, 2006

WASHINGTON – Breaking with the Senate colleagues she joined in support of broad immigration reform, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said yesterday that it would be pointless to couple the legalization of immigrants with a crackdown on U.S. employers who hire unauthorized workers.

“I don't think it makes any sense,” Feinstein said. Federal immigration officials, she noted, have backed off in the past when faced with opposition in communities where work sites are disrupted.

“What has been shown is that employer sanctions don't work,” Feinstein said.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20060331-9999-1n31senator.html

[fooj]

1. She's irrelevant.

Failing to show up for this morning's hearing proves that. Period.

[TomInTib]

2. Do you know of an instance where on-site raids "worked" permanently?

I cannot think of any and I have been around this particular issue all my life.

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3. Wal-Mart?

[TomInTib]

6. Those were primarily Eastern Europeans working under..

contract. The fine was a slap on the wrist and the Europeans were replaced by Hispanics who wouldn't go crying to authorities when they were locked in the stores at night.

True story.

[Capn Sunshine]

10. Haven't been to a WalMart warehouse lately, eh?

Plenty of sindocumentos unloading and sweeping up in Carson, CA and San Pedro.

If you ever move from the chair in front of the computer, you might take a field trip. That means outside, so change out of your bathrobe.

[Mass]

5. Of course, they dont. The punishment is not high enough.

Fix that and it will work.

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7. Exactly...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=803964&mesg_id=803964

[Salviati]

11. Exactly...

the punishment needs to be high enough so that not only is it not worth it if you get caught, but that it's not worth it to even risk it. Anything else will just be absorbed as the cost of doing buisness.

[demosincebirth]

15. What also happens is that the company gets away without paying

the workers who we caught in the raid. I remember, years ago in the fields of
Ca, some farmers would call "la migra" (INS) just before the end of the picking season so they wouldn't have to pay the undocumented workers their last pay check. Talk about some heartless fuckers!

[Mythsaje]

4. They'd work IF (and its a big IF)

they actually punish people who HIRE undocumented workers.

[TomInTib]

9. That's the truth. My housekeepers work under contract through..

a US citizen.
I will guarantee you that if they were snatched out of my house today, they would be replaced tomorrow.
And that scenario could be repeated every day and the result would be the same.

By the way, I pay them on the side twice what their employer pays them. They are doing quite well.

[demosincebirth]

16. God bless you!

[TomInTib]

17. It's the least I can do..

I live in Tiburon (I see you are across the Bay)and see some outrageously wealthy people treat their "help" as if they weren't even there.
One of our friends is Chinese, in this country on an expired student visa. She walks dogs and cares for infirm, elderly people. The hardest-working person I know and a true sweetheart, she is treated like a slave by people who haven't worked for generations.

This whole immigration thing is just pissing me off. There are so many critical issues this nation is facing and nothing - nothing - is going to affect this in a positive way.

[BootinUp]

18. Maybe some kind of carrot stick approach

That involved reduced taxes and fines for having or not having new controls in place. I admit I don't have it all figured out though.

[400Years]

8. she is a whore for bechtel

that is who she really represents

[Beacho]

12. When have employer sanctions ever been tried?

She is such a tool of the corporatistas. Always has been

[MrPrax]

13. Agreed...

Employers' don't like sanctions of any kind--or should I say 'fetters'.

DiFi is quite right and that is why 'employers' buy politicians to represent THEIR interests over the millions of workers the politicians actually represent.

[Sinti]

14. This whole immigration thing is a heap of BS

Of course they don't want an employer crackdown. :eyes:

The corporate thugs and cheap labor conservatives want to get as close to slave labor as they can, it's just good business. The would-be Dixiecrat haters want a (insert racial slur here) to beat up on and get their base excited. The terra-terra crowd wants to incite more fear in folk, this time fear of our brothers to the south, insisting that Arab terrorists are among the brown-skinned folks coming across the border. Everybody wins, except regular Americans (North, South, and Central Americans). We get to fight amongst ourselves, rather than fight the pigs at the top who are spitting on us and getting richer doing so.

[kurth]

19. Criminalize illegal hiring, and there will be a drastic change

Most employers will not dare to break a federal criminal statute.

[cantstandbush]

20. They don't work because they haven't been tried. n/t