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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:16 PM
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I really don't like Joe Lieberman, but I think Republicans are orchestrat-
ing the anti-Lieberman sentiment within the Democratic party.

I think they see CT as a Republican pick-up if THEY can fan the flames of anti-Joe hatred.

I think this because I heard some Republican on TV say that he thinks Lieberman should be offered a cabinet position in the Bush administration. I am pretty confident that there's absolutely no chance that Lieberman would get a cabinet position in the Bush administration. However, it's a brilliant thing for a Republican to say if they want to weaken him for a Republican challenger. I believe the Republicans value a Republican pick-up in CT more than just about anything else that could happen this fall (and if Joe looses, he's not going to end up in the Bush administration -- I bet the farm on this).

Now the crazy-ass part of all this is that THIS is how Republican treat Joe, a guy who has done a great deal to help them get their neoliberal agenda enacted: they undermine him so that a Republican can get his seat.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:17 PM
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1. Nah
I think holyjoe really has to go.

Good luck to Ned Lamont!
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:22 PM
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3. Ya, I think real Dems are fighting back...
Lieberman is a Republican and I think we all realize he needs to go.

It is us who are removing him.

Now, Hillary is definitely a Republican sponsored Dem candidate...
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:31 PM
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5. Lieberman is not going anywhere, except back to the Senate
Ned Lamont is a fringe candidate at best. All you Lieberman bashers out there will go back to your spider holes when Joe wins by 30 points.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:39 PM
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6. No, no spider holes here...
I just want real Democrats representing me (even thou not it my state)...

If Lamont loses, so be it. I support anybody but Liberman...
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:45 PM
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8. Sorry, pal, no chance
Connecticut Dems have decided that Lieberman is as welcome as a porcupine at an inflatable doll convention.
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:18 AM
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11. Nah..
With all due respect, I've had the pleasure to meet Ned Lamont and I'm doing as much work for the campaign as possible.

There is a groundswelling here in CT. People are talking about him which is great - name recognition is starting to happen. There was an energy in the room that was phenomenal and palpable. And it wasn't emanating from Lamont - for the most part, he was a pleasant, very bright, witty, clear-eyed but a little unpolished yet. That will come. He's got two EXCELLENT campaign managers and they are out for blood. But..

It was the people in that room. The anger, the sense of betrayal, a place where all were talking the same language. Instant friendships formed and the sense of urgency there was contagious.

And Sam Seder on AAR speaks of it all daily. He detests him as all of us do who know his record. His print media coverage has for the most part, been unfavorable to him with "pro" Lieberman commentary producing the usual tripe.

As much as we'll follow election returns in Nov., I predict all eyes in the nation are going to be turned to CT. He's a national menace. Contributions from all over the country have been pouring in and he has already won more delegate seats than Joe...a very good sign.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:20 PM
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2. Lieberman doesn't need the GOP to get Democrats angry at him
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 10:20 PM by Jack Rabbit
He's done a good job of that all by himself.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:30 PM
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4. Not so. We'll get rid of Lieberman, but not replace him with a Republican.
If this is indeed the Repub's "strategy," they're underestimating us.

The assholes. We're smarter than they are, whether they realize or not (and they obviously don't).

Redstone
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:21 AM
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13. Amen!
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:41 PM
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7. In their minds...
The only thing better than a Democrat who's subservient to Republicans is an actual Republican in place of the Dem. Makes a little sense; though the disheartening frustration and damage to the party's image brought about by Lieberman is probably of 'priceless' value to them.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:49 PM
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9. Lieberman is better than any Republican.
I don't care for him, but I would support him over any GOP mule any day.
If Ned Lamont gets the nod, then I too will support him.
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:53 PM
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10. I got $50 bucks that says Lieberman wins in a walk
Anybody cover my bet??
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:19 AM
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12. Lieberman IS a Republican ;)
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:32 AM
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14. A cabinet-level appointment for Lieberman has come up
several times, and my gut tells me these rumors come from the Lieberman camp. Say it ain't so, Joe, ya great big tomato head.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:55 AM
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15. Hey, not too far-fetched
I thought of that every time they brought up his name, raised their eyebrows and grinned and especially after that kiss. :hug:
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:26 AM
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16. nah.

Republicans don't want or need another Linc Chafee. Their major use for Joe is to keep Senate Democrats from unity about Iraq/terra for as long as possible.

Connecticut isn't a Republican state. But the big money player in state politics is the Hartford-based insurance industry, which has created and likes a stagnant, no risk, Republican Lite political culture there.

And so it's a state with a lot of aged politicians and a lot of pretty passive voters who think of themselves as moderate Republicans. The post-1994 shakeup that gets moderates aligned with the national Democratic Party, as in the rest of New England, simply hasn't happened yet. That's why the likes of Rell, Lieberman, Shays, and Simmons are still hanging on to office.

Maybe Lamont's campaign could do the trick and shake up the state enough for there to be some real sorting out. That would be more than ousting Lieberman, who is basically going senile and is politically stuck in the late Seventies.


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:41 AM
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17. Sorry, but why would they want to get rid of someone
that can push the neocon agenda so well as to make it seem reasonable (because of the theme of "moderates" in the democratic party side with bush foreign policy)? Lieberman and his ilk are an ace in the hole for the republicans. They are doing damage.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 10:02 AM
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18. Republicans love Joementum, as they have often shown.
But if you feel there is some conspiracy on their part to destroy his career, do have fun with it. It is one of the few things I can think of that I would support them in.
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