S'More Gore!

[HeeBGBz]

C'mon, someone tell me this guy's gonna run in '08.



He's pretty much everything I'm looking for in a candidate.

George Clooney as VP would be sweet icing. Ok, I'm dreaming.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Very cool cover

great art direction......

(wish they could lose half the type.. it;s unneccessary
.. betrays unconfident editor... simpler is better )

still it's a beautiful cover.

[HeeBGBz]

2. It is beautiful

Pleasing to the eye and comforting.

[ronnykmarshall]

37. Very beautiful

Who's the photog?

VM always has the best covers.

[Pirate Smile]

40. Annie Leibovitz

[Jeffersons Ghost]

42. While it's not on a level of her art, here's a little gore pic i cooked up

[itzamirakul]

3. I haven't forgotten how easily Gore gave up the fight over the

recount in 2000. I'm sure that he counted on folks forgetting how quickly he submitted to the BushCo. And given the opportunity both he and Kerry would do the same thing again in 2008. I will never vote for either of them again and I will most certainly not vote for DINO Hillary Clinton, (who I used to support to the nth degree).

Right now, John Edwards SEEMS like our best bet, but time will tell....

[HeeBGBz]

6. I like what he's done since then.

John Edwards seems like a good choice also.

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

7. Yes, he did give up easily...

After all, it was only the supreme court of the land that had handed the election off to the village idiot. What was Gore thinking? Why didn't he call for violence against the supremes and take over the white house anyway?

Nov 7 to Dec 13: he gave up too easily, indeed...

[HeeBGBz]

9. I say we owe him a presidency

Right a most grievous wrong.

[itzamirakul]

10. Not even the Supremes are so powerful that Gore could not have

fought harder and longer and he most certainly would have had the entire Party behind him. Waste your vote on him again if you so desire. I don't think you will find much company in the voting booth.

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

11. Yes, the "entire" Dem party was "behind" him...

getting on TV asking Gore to give it up before any of the courts had even ruled.

[itzamirakul]

12. Gore punked out in 2000...

end of conversation. eom

[NYCGirl]

14. Too bad the FACTS don't agree with you. NT

[itzamirakul]

18. OK...maybe the majority of the Party agrees with you...I don't...I still s

that he punked out in 2000 and he will punk out in 2008. He doesn't have what it takes IMO.

[Autonomy]

43. Gore fought like hell for us

and when there were no battles left to fight, he held his head high and went out like a noble elder statesman. Without exaggeration, his conduct during the election 2000 debacle makes him simply the most qualified person to fill the office of POTUS since George Washington.

[Uncle Joe]

45. Here Here or is it Hear Hear!?

You said it well Autonomy, and I totally agree. Al Gore is a true man of grace and magnitude. He rocks, and so do you for that post.

:yourock:

[karynnj]

20. A few supported him

[NYCGirl]

13. He didn't have the party behind him. They told him to give up three days

AFTER THE ELECTION. Lieberman begged him to quit. The entire party turned their backs on him. You are very wrong.

[Mabus]

41. Right you are

Among the Democrats who wanted Gore to give up were Toricelli, Breaux, Kerrey & Nunn.

Two prominent members of Gore's party, Senators Robert Toricelli of New Jersey and Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, publicly suggested that he avoid dragging out the decision with a long court battle. 11/15/2000 - http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/Democrats_back_Gore_for_recount+.shtml

If the verdict goes against Mr Gore, Mr Kerrey said he would join fellow Democrats such as Senator John Breaux of Louisiana and former Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia in pressing the vice-president to end further legal challenges to the November 7 election. November 22, 2000 - http://www.guardian.co.uk/US_election_race/Story/0,,401249,00.html

It's Friday, November 24, 2000 I'm David Brancaccio.

The United States Supreme Court will consider the election appeal of Texas Governor George W. Bush, with oral arguments set for a week from today. The appeal challenges the constitutionality of hand recounts now authorized in Florida.

****

Marketplace's Stephen Henn reports some strong voices within Al Gore's own part are beginning to express doubts on how long the Vice President should keep on fighting.

Henn: Democratic Sen. John Breaux of Louisiana has said Vice President Al Gore should concede if recounts in Florida haven't put him over the top by Sunday night. And Breaux isn't alone within the Democratic party in questioning the Vice President's commitment to keep on fighting. Others like Sen. Torricelli of New Jersey have expressed their doubts as well. But E.J. Dionne a columnist for the Washington Post and fellow at the Brookings Institution, says that probably isn't enough to convince Al Gore to give up the ghost.

Dionne: They have hinted early on that they had wanted Gore to give up and I don't think he took kindly to that at the time. I think what it would take is some main stream Democratic leader. November 24, 2000 - http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2000/11/24_mpp.html

on edit: Gore fought for 36 days to get votes counted. He didn't give up until the SCOTUS decision. If he had continued to fight after that he and the Democratic party would have been hurt.

[Uncle Joe]

46. Excellent recap Mabus!

Al Gore set the record, no one in U.S. history contested an election longer than he. It's truly amazing to me that anyone could believe he is not a fighter for the people. He has fought for the people his entire life and to this day has not stopped.

[ronnykmarshall]

38. The Supremes are ALL POWERFUL!!!

[dalaigh lllama]

48. Au contraire

I've been interested in Gore in '08 ever since his unsung heroism in NOLA after hurricane Katrina. His speech on MLK day was electrifying. Since then, I've perused about every thread that comes up here regarding Gore. He's got a very large following, and well-deserved, IMO. I can't really hold him responsible for the fiasco in 2000; who would have guessed that such a twisted act of chutzpah would be so easily accomplished?

[karynnj]

15. But he could have appealed it to a higher court

I agree with you there was nothing else he could haev done at that point.

[Marnieworld]

17. you read my mind

Jeez. I thought he fought as much as he could and then was robbed. The court stopped vote counting. What could he do after that? He conceded with class and grace. When he had licked his wounds he came back stronger, more articulate and passionate, and braver. He now does not hold back from speaking truth to power in ways most Dems are still too afraid to even echo weakly.

Politicians aren't super heroes. They are human beings that make mistakes and have flaws. What you do after the mistakes is a true show of character. Gore has character and I welcome any effort he puts towards the greater good as a candidate or not. :patriot:

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

19. Well stated!

All during that time, he gave short civics lessons as well -- if the nation were half as interested as he was in the rule of law, we might have actually learnt the nuances of the constitution and the electoral processes. The grace he showed through the process was just amazing. If the media had had an iota of responsibility, they would have joined Gore in educating the public and revelled in the constitutional process and its beauty and comprehensiveness...What a colossal missed opportunity...

[myrna minx]

44. I sobbed and sobbed all the while he showed nothing but

grace and class. I agree with you. This could have been an illuminating civics lesson and you're right, it was a missed opportunity. :-(

[Joe Fields]

21. Well put. I have stated before, that....

Gore is a renniassance man, forward thinking, self examining, and willing to admit mistakes and take action to correct mistakes. He thinks outside the box, has practical solutions to serious problems, and could have a HUGE base of democratic support.

All he needs to do is run. I'm with him all the way.

[Pirate Smile]

24. Yeah, geez, he actually accepted the Supreme Court's decision

instead of telling people to get their guns and bombs.:eyes:

[mzmolly]

27. So the Supreme Court wasn't high enough for ya?

Should he have formed a militia?

[IndyOp]

28. I would apologize to Gore for not going to Fla to support him

If ever I met Al, I would apologize to Gore for not going to Fla to support him -- How the hell was he supposed to stand up to the demons of the Bush Family Evil Empire ALONE? His Dem colleagues abandoned him in their ignorance and so did we. :mad:

Kerry gave up more easily than Gore did, and Kerry KNEW the 2000 election had been stolen.

[trogdor]

30. 2000 was an entirely different world.

Gore did what he did because he respects the law and the Constitution. I vaguely remember what that's like. If he were a pushover, he would have capitulated on election night, instead of on December 12th, after he had exhausted all of his alternatives.

I'd support him in a minute. My slogan for his primary campaign will be, "you had me at 'hello,' Al."

[Nordmadr]

4. Recommending because that is a great cover, and I love

the title:

A New American Revolution


You bet your ass!

Olafr

[On the Road]

8. "New American Revolution" -- THAT's the Meme

at least it's a good one. Adds some excitement. Makes people think they should be changing their views and that this is the next big thing. Stuff like this will not come from the party.

[Nordmadr]

5. I just made that cover the background on my PC N/T

[karynnj]

16. Gore was at Drew University in Madison, NJ - here's local article

Gore presents clean, green theories in lecture at Drew
Calls environment a top concern, doesn't discuss political future

BY NAVID IQBAL
DAILY RECORD

MADISON -- Former Vice President Al Gore wants to change the way people think about the environment.

Gore visited Drew University Monday night as part of the Thomas H. Kean visiting lecture series to explain his theory, but media reporters were banned from the auditorium.

Instead, Gore's aides arranged for him to sit for five-minute interviews with each of three reporters.

Link:

http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060404/COMMUNITIES26/604040323/1203

- Front Page of local paper. I only wish I knew of this ahead of time. I far perfer Kerry, but respect and admire Gore. Thought you Gore supporters would like this.

[paparush]

22. Man, these guys can't wrap themselves in the Environment right now..

they HAVE to hammer, hammer, hammer the evil, incompetent, lying, cheating, stealing neocon nazis. They have to hammer free and fair elections within our own borders. They have to hammer the illegal war and the torture and the scandals and the bribery and the outing and the domestic spying and the corruption.

Right now, we can wait to be Green until after we clean house.

If Gore comes out as a tree-hugger rather than a champion of truth and justice, he and those who stand with him, are toast.

my .02

[NYCGirl]

25. Gore has been studying and lecturing on the environment since he was

in college. He CAN DO two things at once.

[Mabus]

33. Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Epsilon and Zeta

Remember it was the hurricanes that helped wake people up to the incompetency and corruption of this administration. It also made a lot of Americans - the ones that wouldn't listen to us before - to start questioning our involvement in Iraq and the amount of money we've spent over there. Add to this the yo-yo-ing of oil prices and people are starting to think about alternative fuels and America's fuel dependency. All of a sudden people who didn't ask questions before are now wondering about wisdom having two oil men in the highest positions in the United States government.

We can be green now. We have to be green now or we'll win battles but lose the war the really counts.

Here's an excerpt from an article published in 2004.

World Bank, Pentagon: global warming red alert
Weather of mass destruction bigger threat than terrorism
22 February 2004


Washington, DC, United States — A world thrown into turmoil by drought, floods, typhoons. Whole countries rendered uninhabitable. The political capital of the Netherlands submerged. The borders of the US and Australia patrolled by armies firing into waves of starving boat people desperate to find a new home. Fishing boats armed with cannon to drive off competitors. Demands for access to water and farmland backed up with nuclear weapons. Sound like the ravings of doom-saying environmental extremists? It's actually from a report commissioned by the Pentagon on how to ready America for the coming climate Armageddon.


Fifteen years ago, some of us were warning of the impacts of fossil fuels on the climate. The science was less conclusive than today, but we, along with most climatologists, believed that the consequences were of such magnitude that immediate action was prudent. Today, environmentalists aren't the only ones saying that. The World Bank and the Pentagon have both commissioned studies which finally admit that our world is in serious peril, and the biggest threat to our future is not terrorism, but our own dependence on fossil fuels. In other words, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

This year, the small circle of remaining climate "skeptics" -- scientists and politicians who don't believe that global warming is happening, or who refuse to accept a human element in its making, narrowed so far that Exxon/Mobil and the President of the United States may soon be the sole, shrill naysayers.

Sir David King, Chief Scientist in Tony Blair's government, has said that global warming is a greater threat than terrorism. Hans Blix, who ran the UN weapons inspection programme in Iraq, says the same thing. source

Just my .02

[kentuck]

23. neat cover

:) good people

[ourbluenation]

26. I think his quote from a few weeks ago actually leaves the window open

"I'm not planning to be a candidate again. I haven't reached a stage in my life where I'm willing to say I will never consider something like this," he said. "But I'm not saying that to be coy; I'm just saying that to be honest -- that I haven't reached that point."

Al Gore March 20, 2006

[HeeBGBz]

50. His understanding of environment is crucial

We need someone who can counteract the effects of this administrations global warming deniers. The planet is gonna fling us off like the parasites we are.

[AzDar]

29. Al Gore 'punked-out', MY ASS!! Gorgeous cover, btw...wouldn't

they make a lovely Cabinet for President Gore??

[rateyes]

31. I'm with you...

I think the two people mentioned in that article title would make a good ticket.

Gore/Kennedy, Jr.

Works for me.

[K8-EEE]

32. Kudos For His Environmental Work BUT....

I still am carrying a grudge for him running such a crappy campaign and most of all for picking Joe Lie-berman as a running mate, we've been stuck with Joe-mentum ever since!

[AzDar]

34. Yes, but he STILL managed to beat the lifetime-loser from Texas.. n/t

[Mabus]

39. Let's look at the polls

from 2000 and you'll see that Gore started his campaign behind in the polls and fought his way back to win the 2000 election. He did this despite the attacks on him in the media, Clinton's blow-job and Bradley's attacks. Why did he start so low? According to a contemporaneous CNN story

How much trouble is Gore in? Forty percent all Americans say they are not likely at all to vote for him in 2000 if the Democrats nominate him, and another 15 percent say that they are not too likely to vote for him.

So, a majority of Americans currently say that they are likely to vote against Gore even before the GOP picks its nominee. To be elected next November, Gore must win over two-thirds of the people who say they are "not too likely" to vote for him.

One of Gore's supposed advantages -- being the heir apparent of a popular president -- may actually be working against him. Fifty-two percent of all Americans say they are less likely to vote for Gore if President Bill Clinton actively supports him and campaigns for him.

Another legacy of the Clinton era -- Kosovo -- may also drag on Gore's candidacy. A majority say that Gore would do a bad job on foreign affairs if he becomes president. And despite a booming economy under his boss, just 50 percent say that Gore would do a good job with the economy if he takes over from Clinton. Poll: Majority of Americans would vote against Gore in 2000

So, he started from behind because he was vice-president. Moreover, 52% of the American public said they would be less likely to support Gore if Bill actively campaigned for him.

Suppose the year 2000 presidential election were being held today. If Vice President Al Gore was the Democratic Party's candidate and Texas Gov. George W. Bush was the Republican Party's candidate, who would you be more likely to vote for?
Bush 54%
Gore 40*


Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for Al Gore for president if President Clinton were actively support him and campaign for him?
More likely 29%
Less likely 52

May 26, 1999 - source: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/26/president.2000/poll/index.html

****


If Vice President Al Gore were the Democratic party's candidate and Texas Gov. George W. Bush were the Republican party's candidate, who would you be more likely to vote for?

Bush 56%
Gore 40
June 8, 1999 - http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/08/poll/index.html

****

June 15, 1999
Web posted at: 6:12 p.m. EDT (2212 GMT)

WASHINGTON (June 15) -- Vice President Al Gore faces a difficult task as he prepares to officially declare his presidential candidacy on Wednesday. Forty-five percent of all Americans say they definitely will not vote for him next November if he wins the Democratic nomination -- regardless of who the GOP puts up against him. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/15/president.2000/poll/index.html

****

If Vice President Al Gore were the Democratic Party's candidate and Texas Gov. George W. Bush were the Republican Party's candidate, who would you be more likely to vote for: Al Gore, the Democrat, or George W. Bush, the Republican?

Gore 41%
Bush 50%




Now March 30-April 2
Bush 50% 46%
Gore 41% 45%

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/04/10/poll.cnn/index.html

****

CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll June 23-25

If Al Gore were the Democratic Party's candidate and George W. Bush were the Republicans Party's candidate, who would you be more likely to vote for?

Now

Bush 52%
Gore 39

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/06/26/cnn.poll/index.html

****

If Al Gore and Joe Lieberman were the Democratic Party's candidates and George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were the Republican Party's candidates, who would you be more likely to vote for?

Now


Gore 49%

Bush 49
Sampling error: +/-4% pts

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/21/cnn.poll/index.html

*****

October 4-5

Asked of likely voters: Suppose the election for President were being held today, and you had to choose between Al Gore and Joseph Lieberman, the Democrats; George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, the Republicans; Ralph Nader and Winona LaDuke, the Green Party candidates; and Pat Buchanan, the Reform Party candidate. For whom would you vote -- Gore, Bush, Buchanan, or Nader?

Bush 47%

Gore 45

Nader 4

Buchanan 1
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/06/cnn.poll/index.html


****

Likely voters' choice for president

Bush 49%

Gore 43

Nader 3

Buchanan 1

Sampling error: +/-3% pts
October 25-26 - http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/27/cnntime.poll/index.html
****

This last poll, about a week before the 2000 election showed Bush up by 6% points. What happened when the voters came out: Gore won the election and the majority of votes. So, despite accusations that he ran a crappy campaign, Gore managed to come from behind and win.

[AtomicKitten]

35. All I have to say is, YES, YES, YES.

Now I have to go smoke a cigarette.

[radio4progressives]

36. Gorgeous Cover! OMFG Look at this Crew!

gotta get me a copy of this edition...

[Uncle Joe]

47. What's wrong with this thing, it won't let me recommend it more than once?

:argh:

:kick:

[politicasista]

49. Gore looks good in that pic n/t