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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:02 AM
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S1955, Enzi bill, devastates health care for millions, poll results scary!
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 12:04 AM by caligirl


A manufacturers blog site has posted poll results for the Enzi Bill which will come to the Senate floor May 1-5, and devastates medical coverage and state protections.

Bipartisan Poll Endorses Bipartisan Enzi-Nelson Bill - where were the Ds in the Senate HELP Committee when they could have supported S. 1955, the Health Insurance Marketplace Modernization and Affordability Act? According to the poll (jointly conducted by R pollster Public Opinion Strategies and D pollster Lake Research Partners), 93% of Republicans, 88% of Independent, and 86% of Democratic voters favor a small business health insurance purchasing plan like the Enzi-Nelson bill. Surely Senators are listening?

Senate floor action is likely later this year - probably before the summer. It's time now to build upon the bipartisan coalition supporting this legislation and to build a filibuster-proof majority for small business health plans.
http://blog.nam.org/archives/2006/04/health_care_upd_4.php
Enzi bill thread with American Nurses opposition postion and details about the devastating effects:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2547169
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:10 AM
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1. I'm confused...
Are you for or against it? I'm not sure why you want to build support for it if it devastates medical coverage. And your sig file says to stop the bill. What am I missing?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:02 AM
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3. OH no I have definitly been fighting this. I think the link to another
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 01:08 AM by caligirl
DU thread has links to original threads. Its very clear my diabetic son would be harmed as will others. The poll in this post has Dems supporting some form of health plan, but the dem members in the HELP committee votede agains this bill. Small business lobbying groups are lobbying all members of congress, including all dems. They are trying to gain enogh support to over ride a filibuster.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2519183&mesg_id=2519183

Original post.

Provision designed to ensure comprehensive" benefit option fails to provide protections.
*******In order to bypass a state's protections , a n insurer would only need to meet one requirement: offer a second plan that resembles one offered to state employees in one of the five most populous states (CA, NY, TX, FL and IL). These states offer their employees a variety of plans, some of which are high-deductible ( Florida , for example, offers its state employees a plan that includes a $5000 deductible for families). Thus this requirement could allow an insurer to choose a high deductible/HSA plan that can require a family to pay as much as $5,000 out-of-pocket (after paying premiums), before coverage kicks in. The fact that the insurer can choose any one of the plans available to employees of these states means that there is no requirement or guarantee that the required enhanced option" be affordable or comprehensive. Again, a state has no recourse if the plan does not meet the needs of its residents.***********



Although the bill is advertised by proponents as offering small businesses flexibility and choice, the reality is that insurance companies will control the plans available, not small businesses or their employees. Insurance companies will have the ability to offer plans that meet some, few, or none of the state's mandated benefits, and they will choose which of the state-employee models they would like to offer.


:redbox:
Allows insurers to raise premiums based on health status, age, gender and geography.
In addition, S. 1955 also would preempt stronger state laws that limit the ability of insurers to vary premiums based on health status, age, gender and geography. For many older, sicker Americans and those with complex health needs and disabilities, this would price them out of the health insurance market, undermining the stated purpose of the legislation. The bill imposes on all the states an outdated model law created by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC), rather than using the NAIC's current model standard that is more protective.

:redbox:
For many older, sicker Americans and those with complex health needs and disabilities, this would price them out of the health insurance market, undermining the stated purpose of the legislation. Under this new system, many small businesses with workers who are older and sicker, women of child-bearing age, or who have fewer employees, will immediately see their premiums rise.

After careful consideration and review, ANA opposes S. 1955 due to strong reservations about the bill's impact on the practice of APRNs, consumer's access to primary and preventative health care, and the cost of insurance for those who are higher risk or in need of significant health care services.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:22 AM
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5. Ah, thanks for the clarification
I didn't realize you were quoting someone else's blog.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:05 AM
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9. Edit: meant to respond to the OP. nt
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 08:06 AM by blondeatlast
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 12:12 AM
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2. I don't have a D in my DC reps
But I will try to help others out who contact their democratic reps.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 01:06 AM
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4. I can't update my post above, but the paragraph posted is not mine, it is
Edited on Wed Apr-05-06 01:07 AM by caligirl
from the linked manufacturers web site, they are one of many many business associations trying to get this passed despite the bad consequences to millions.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:26 AM
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6. the purpose of this bill
is to circumvent state insurance law. The states regulate the insurance industry. In other words - the insurance companies will be free to operate as they please through these plans.

Only the wealthy will have decent medical coverage.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 02:43 AM
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7. Business pushing hard for this bill
I think this one, the one that allows business organizations to pool and buy insurance, right? I saw a big thing on a real estate association web site and they said insurance was putting out propaganda because the requirement that they had to accept everyone, and the increased competition, would force prices down and cost them more in payouts. I also read an op-ed about the scary wal-mart bashing agenda, people are just trying to expand Medicaid and big government health care. So they are really ramping it up, we need to be aware.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:50 AM
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8. Realtors are pushing this. small business can already pool together
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 12:51 AM by caligirl
to buy insurance plans. This just takes all state regulations off the insurance industry. $$$$$


A list of business groups pushing for this with an explanation.http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=851913&mesg_id=851913
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:07 AM
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10. Could be voted on anytime, possibly as early as May--or even sooner.
This bill makes it possible for insurers to circumvent state law REQUIRING them to cover such "ancillary" needs as--I'm not joking:

*insulin pumps
*ancillaries for insulin pumps (trust me--INCREDIBLY expensive)
*insulin syringes
*electronic nebulizers (my son requires one of these occasionally)
*diabetes testing supplies--as anyone who knows a diabetic is aware, these are the best tools to control diabetes. They are virtually unaffordable for even a modest income unless covered.

In other words, in their hideous greed, the insurance companies will DROP a long-term cost cutting tool in order to show better quarterlies.

I NEVER believed I'd be grateful for the support of big pharma, but they are vocally against this bill. Unfortunately, as big as they are, their assets pale in comparison to BIG INSURANCE,

Here's our opportunity to show BIG MONEY that we still have the power over the Senate.

Call your Senators ASAP, please.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:57 AM
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11. Have heard talk of a filibuster
let's keep pushing this and make it happen.

Folks, this is one of those situations where, you may think it won't have an affect on you personally, but it will.
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ed murrow Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:47 PM
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12. I am so impressed with you Cali Girl
You have been out here fighting the good fight with this legislation. Definitely a bump to this thread.

I worry how badly the Enzi Bill will undercut statewide supported initiatives like the one in Massachusetts

The Mass. Bill is such a great step for health-care in America but I seriously worry that this Enzi Legislation would completely undermine it.

I have been touting this diary all over Democratic Underground but you guys and girls really have to read this diary on Daily Kos about the Enzi legislation.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/6/13942/74890">Daily Kos - Enzi & Mass Health Bill

ed
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ed murrow Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:26 PM
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13. State Right's Issue
Also there is a great article in the Los Angeles Times today

An editorial talking about the State's Rights issue that is being revoked by this bill


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-golden6apr06,1,4779499.column?coll=la-utilities-business&ctrack=1&cset=true">Healthcare Bill Seeks to Preempt State Laws

Sure enough, Enzi's bill would "modernize" the health insurance marketplace right into the Stone Age.


People are slowly starting to gather around this issue
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