Cynthia McKinney for President!!! I respect her for speaking the truth.

[In Truth We Trust]

Any and all good dem's shouild support this marvelous voice for the truth.

[iamahaingttta]

1. Truth is good!

President?
Never gonna happen!

[RDU Socialist]

2. I RESPECT HER FOR STANDING UP TO THE FIVE OH!

FUCK THE POLICE... FUCK FUCK FUCK THE POLICE!

[kstewart33]

3. What truth?

What truth is she speaking? I agree with Steve Gilliard. She is an embarrassment.

When will she get back to doing her job, and let us move on to more important issues?

Sorry, but I'm not buying your litmus test for "all good dems." McKinney keeps getting into all sorts of trouble and when she does, she tries to hype it for all its worth. A publicity hound is not what is needed in WDC.

[RDU Socialist]

5. and she called Al Gore a racist

yeah we need a black racist leading our ticket.

[ProudDad]

56. Get over it!

During the 2000 presidential campaign, McKinney wrote that "Al Gore's Negro tolerance level has never been too high. I've never known him to have more than one black person around him at any given time."

Big deal. I'm sure she'd back him in 2008 if he decided to run...

[annarbor]

65. "Our Ticket?"

Hmmm,

Ann Arbor

[nickshepDEM]

23. Hear, hear!

[AlamoDemoc]

4. Find me a Democrat that supports their own when calling is heard

Rep. Jack Murtha learned that lesson early on. Nough said!

[Placebo]

6. Is this for real?

What in the blazes kind of topic is this.

"Speaks the truth"?

She's screaming racism and sexism in a case where none exists and she is entirely at fault.

This not only makes her a coward, but demeans all other instances where such factors actually come into play.

She is a disgrace, an embarrassment, and a liar.

And now that the media has McKinney Fever, she is a ball & chain on the leg of the Democratic Party.

They're going to entirely ignore DeLay and the bunch and focus on her illegal and violent outbursts against security officials who were just doing their job.

Resign now you devil woman, you!

[RDU Socialist]

7. are you implying that she's in bondage?

how dare you bring up slave imagery when discussing a batshit crazy congressperson of minority status!?

and you can take your principles and stuff it mr, some of us don't like those!

</blind partisan idiot>

[NorCalDem]

10. Haha, RDU, f'ing hilarious

blind partisan idiot is exactly right

"What? A democrat doing something bad? Must be the fault of Karl Rove, or Bush, or (insert name of Republican institution here), because Democrats never do ANYTHING bad."

"Oh, and if you disagree with me you're racist and sexist to boot!"

That's pretty much what I've heard all day long from around here...

[RDU Socialist]

13. what I love is how a lot of people here will, rightly, criticize

republicans for supporting their party members when they do illegal shit, but when Cynthia McKinney hits a police officer (WHICH IS A FUCKING CRIME) oh you have to support her in her time of need because clearly this smacks of racism and sexism. Amazing how Sheila Jackson Lee hasn't complained about racism in the Capitol, but whenever Cynthia McKinney gets so much as a parking ticket IT'S THE WORK OF THE KAPITOL KOPS KLAN!!!

[procopia]

16. Have you seen the surveillance video?

From McKinney's statement:

"This morning at approximately 8:57 am, I was going to a Budget Committee meeting due to start at 9:00 am. I was rushing to my meeting when a white police officer yelled to me. He approached me, bodyblocked me, physically touching me. I used my arm to get him off of me. I told him not to touch me several times. He asked for my ID and I showed it to him. He then let me go and I proceeded to my meeting and I assume that the Police Officer resumed his duties."

Without seeing the surveillance video, how can you know she "hit" him?

[RDU Socialist]

18. i love how she points out his race

just sayin...

[procopia]

31. You pointed out hers...

eom

[RDU Socialist]

34. because when discussing racists, one needs to point out which race

the person is. I pointed out she's a black racist, if this was Dana Rohrabacher or Tom DeLay I'd say "white racist."

However, when I've talked about her being batshit insane, I've felt no need to bring her race up, because it has nothing to do with the fact she's crazy.

[procopia]

37. OK

She thinks the policeman is a white racist. Same logic.

[procopia]

9. Her fault?

There are so many discrepancies and variations to the story, I don't know how anyone could assign fault without actually seeing the surveillance video.

[Late Slip]

42. I'm with you on this...

All we have right now are allegations. Hopefully they do have tape. I'm not sure about the race thing either. Would this cop have done the same thing to a white woman? I'm thinking not, but I don't know.

[AlamoDemoc]

11. Why are you so upset over what she did?

She said she was man handled; she said she was grabbed and manhandled as security risk by the the same men who sworn in to protect her as a member of Representative of United States of America?


Frankly, I tent to believe police officers most of the time...but in this case am baffled by how a police officer hired to protect and recognize men and woman of the congress, as is his job, had failed to recognize his employer.

[RDU Socialist]

17. "i tend to believe police officers most of the time"

means you never do, but are trying to convince people that you're not being blindly partisan by making it sound as if this case is somehow different. If there was no surveilance video and the representative was Tom Tancredo, and everything else was the exact same as it is with McKinney would you be so liberal in who might be at fault? I doubt it.

I tend to believe police officers all the time, because quite frankly, they're in a shitheap of trouble if they lie about something like this.

[AlamoDemoc]

LOL....with all people, why choose Tom Tancredo?

you are funny indeed!

[RDU Socialist]

26. because he's been all over spreading his xenophobia

i would have said tom delay, but he's stepping down.

[AlamoDemoc]

27. Yeah! ok

[RDU Socialist]

28. okay you caught me

I'm Tom Tancredo, I'm seeing how well I'd do on Democratic Underground's straw poll since I didn't win the Souther Republican Leadership Conference's straw poll.

[BeFree]

35. And this cop...

...is in a bunch of trouble, if the story is true.

Frankly I'm glad she stood up for her rights. If everyone did so, all the bad cops would be looking for work, and the world would be a better place.

Too, some of you are playing this whole episode up. Just like Faux. That's fine. Its making her a household name, and in the old days the saying went: Print anything you want about me, just make sure you spell my name correctly.

Cynthia, I would imagine, thanks you for helping make her famous! Me too.

[ProudDad]

58. I've seen the criminal injustice system from the inside!

I don't fuckin' believe cops or D.A.s or judges as far as I could have heaved the twin towers.

They twist the truth for a fuckin' living!!!!

Damn, some real naive people here....

[Jayhawk Lib]

21. She was ignoring him.

He did not recognize her (maybe he should have but he did not). She just kept on walking, how was he going to get her to stop so he could identify her? He has a tough job protecting the congress people and making sure everybody that enters the building is not a threat.

She could have been a little more courteous. She could have been a little more gracious. She could have shown a little more class. She did none of any of these. Now other issues that should be getting publicity to help our cause is getting ignored.

If she would have only followed the rules and showed a little courtesy and consideration this would have not even gotten back page coverage.

[procopia]

24. She said she didn't hear him.

Why would you assume she was lying?

[Jayhawk Lib]

39. I do not believe her..

Why did she not do the proper thing and wear the pin and make sure security saw it. If she was not going to wear the pin why did she not go up to the security people and identify herself and explain that she did not have her pin on.

As I stated she is discourteous, ungracious, and is really classless.

She has had far more issues with security than any other congress person including Sheila Jackson Lee.

[procopia]

46. The proper thing?

Members of Congress are not required to wear the pin. She was almost late for a meeting, and I'm sure she was just intent on getting there. There is no basis for disbelieving her.

[Jayhawk Lib]

49. Isn't strange

that she is the only one to have problems like this. She has had other instances similar to this. Why are not the other members of congress saying anything to help clear this up?

Believe what you want. This is going to end up being a he said- she said issue and I take the side of the capital policeman who is there to protect those people. If she does not want to cooperate she can suffer the consequences of her actions.

[alittlelark]

32. This is the first time I have seen you on the board in quite awhile..

I didn't know you were still here.

sigh.

[Placebo]

41. Good to see you too.

:)

[woodleydem]

44. Unfortunately, this topic is for real. And based on personal experience,

I interned in college for a white male congressman and he was stopped on more than one occasion by Capitol police and asked to show either his member pin or ID badge. Racism has nothing to do with this. McKinney is a nut, and she has found a bunch of nuts on internet sites like this.

[Placebo]

61. It's sad but true.

If she had any integrity she would be issuing a letter of resignation this minute.

[ProudDad]

57. I hope you have enough spleen

left over to lay onto the repukes as harshly as you can a decent, hard-working, real honest to god progressive!

Amazing that you take the word of the pigs, the pukes and the media over one of US!

[blakeley]

8. McKinney is bat shit crazy

As a Georgia Dem, I'm glad I moved out of her district, even though I never voted for her. She wants nothing other than the spotlight to shine on her woeful countenance. She is always fanning the flames of her own flagging zeal, and this is a prime example of how she is no better than the most contemptable crony in the Bush White House --- Blame, Blame, Blame everyone else, rather than step up to the plate and admit she made a mistake, even a fleating lapse in judgement. SHE is the racist here. She needs to be removed from office ASAP, and I pray I see the day she is frog marched out of the House Chamber in shackles.

[procopia]

12. Do you want her removed because she says things like this?

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/mckinney_grills_rumsfeld.htm

[RDU Socialist]

14. i want her removed because she's unapologetic when she fucks up

and always blames whitey for her fucking up. that's racism.

[procopia]

19. You don't find it odd

that there have been multiple incidents in which 6th term McKinney wasn't recognized by Capitol police in spite of her very distinctive braided hairdo?

Personally, I don't think the harrassment is due to racism. I think it is punishment for questioning BushCo policies.

[RDU Socialist]

20. the other incidents involved the clinton administration

In 1993, Capitol Police posted a photo of McKinney on an office wall so officers could remember who she was after she complained. Then in 1995, she complained again about being stopped.

In 1996 and 1998, she complained that White House security officials did not give her the same treatment as other members of Congress, at one time mistaking her 23-year-old white aide for her. McKinney is black.

from http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060330-120057-3228r

unless she was criticizing bushco's policies in 1996 and 1998 when it wasn't entirely clear if Cocaine McDraftdodger was going to run or not...

[procopia]

22. So after all these measures have been taken...

The capitol police STILL have difficulty recognizing her?

[RDU Socialist]

25. what kind of turnover do you think they have?

and i'd love for you to be able to instantly recognize 435 people. i see people in my classes with twenty people in them two or three times a week for at least an hour each time, i wouldn't recognize half of them if i tripped over them.

[procopia]

29. It's their job.

According to McKinney's statement, "Capitol Hill Police are given face recognition instructions as a part of their official training. Capitol Hill Police are required to recognize, greet, and distinguish Members of Congress as a part of their official role and responsibilities."

Instantly recognizing 435 people is not that difficult. School principals are able to do it in a matter of days, and remember, there are only 14 black congresswomen. I find it unusual if you don't recognize students from your own class.

[klook]

30. 16-year-old Capitol pages have to recognize EVERY member of Congress.

Why shouldn't adult security guards be expected to do so??

By the way, welcome to DU! Hope you enjoy your stay. :popcorn:

[Joe the Revelator]

50. I am so sick of these types of statements...

"By the way, welcome to DU! Hope you enjoy your stay."

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, or turn a blind eye when democrats (McKinney) act like idiots, does not mean that they're a GOP plant or destined to be banned. I have the same feelings about McKinney and I have 1k+ votes

[rman]

62. when the shoe fits...

No-one said those who disagree are GOP plant - yet that is you interpretation.

Post-count means nothing, there are 10k+ DU-ers who have been either exposed as or revealed themselves as disruptors.

[alittlelark]

33. sigh.........

[AlamoDemoc]

40. I am glad you are in no way near her district too

Cheers!

:sarcasm:

[ProudDad]

59. Welcome to DU

Why don't you post this on Free Republic? They'd get a kick out of it and it's where it belongs.

I can't believe you people, have you no sense of history. The COPS are designed, built and trained to protect the upper classes against us! And you take their side over that of a good progressive.

[Terran1212]

15. She is a GREAT leader and Representative

She may or may not have messed up in this instance, but she's always fought for those who cannot defend themselves.

ALWAYS

[BeFree]

38. And now she's famous!

People who never heard about her are talking about her, and all she did was what most people ought to do: Stand up for your rights!

I hope she milks this for all it's worth. With a little help from her enemies she should get great mileage.

[reprehensor]

36. More guts than any random handful of Democrats.

This overblown incident is the work of Rove and the Bush Crime Family, and too many Dems are playing right along like sleep-walking, knee-jerk suckers.

Pathetic.

[Carni]

66. Just my 2 cents

IF she had said something like "I am on Capitol Hill's radar because I have been vocal about bushit regarding 911 etc and I have been targeted" --

I would have believed it (IF she was in fact targeted I think that is more likely the reason)

I haven't seen the tape, don't know who did what, but I thought it was unwise that she so quickly announced that her race was the issue.

I think she should have thought things through before she reacted...but most of all I just hope the whole incident goes away so that the media will stick to bushit's leaking instead of this very nothing story.

[LittleClarkie]

43. She isn't accused of hitting the guy with the truth

Whether or not she speak truth to power is irrelevant to whether or not she biffed a cop.

[RedTail Wolf]

45. Georgia Liberal here ....she's a nut..nuff said...nt

[procopia]

48. The Screwing of Cynthia McKinney

"Have you heard about Cynthia McKinney, former U.S. Congresswoman?

"According to those quoted on National Public Radio, McKinney’s “a loose cannon” (media expert) who “the people of Atlanta are embarrassed and disgusted” (politician) by, and she is also “loony” and “dangerous” (senator from her own party).

"Yow! And why is McKinney dangerous/loony/disgusting? According to NPR, “McKinney implied that the Administration knew in advance about September 11 and deliberately held back the information.”

"The New York Times’ Lynette Clemetson revealed her comments went even further over the edge: “Ms. McKinney suggest that President Bush might have known about the September 11 attacks but did nothing so his supporters could make money in a war.”

T"hat’s loony, all right. As an editor of the highly respected Atlanta Journal Constitution told NPR, McKinney’s “practically accused the President of murder!”

"Problem is, McKinney never said it.
(snip)
"Here’s the Congresswoman’s statement from the record:

“George Bush had no prior knowledge of the plan to attack the World Trade Center on September 11.”

"Oh."

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0619-12.htm (Greg Palast)

[Terran1212]

53. Georgia Progressive who's seen her speak twice -- she's great

[opihimoimoi]

47. In due time, this Lady can and should run for the Presidency...

She got my support.

[guinivere]

51. Sorry. I could not support her for President. nt

[KoKo]

52. Here! Here!....support for Cynthia...When she apologized they WENT AFTER

Her AGAIN! And, saddest of all it was her fellow Dems and Black Caucus who got after her to APOLOGIZE...yet when she did ..."THEY" did "THIS" to her....:cry:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=863567&mesg_id=863567

[bee]

54. this is crazy talk. please stop. n/t

[killerbush]

55. Well I guess I'm not a good Dem

Because what Mc.Kinney did was wrong. I'm glad she apologized, but it took her three days, and using the race card was inexcusable. Cynthia, you were wrong, admit it and move on.

[ProudDad]

60. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW

what she did or didn't do and you're ready to condemn her.

I don't understand you people.

You're ready to take the word of a COP over one of the best friends you have in the Congress.

Amazing!

[rman]

63. That would be the day

How about a McKinney/Kucinich ticket

[JNelson6563]

64. Oh dear

I always marvel at DU.

Do we really want such a grand standing self-promoting candidate?