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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:33 AM
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"The fix was in": A Chronology of Cuyahoga Co. (Ohio's) felonious recount
http://www.cleveland.com/open/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1144313142224340.xml&coll=2

<snip>
Nov. 22, 2004: Presidential candidates from the Green and Libertarian parties sue Ohio to get a county-by-county recount. Ohio election procedure requires a recount to begin with workers counting votes on 3 percent of the ballots by hand and by machine in each county. If the totals match, the county recount is completed by machine. If the totals do not match, the recount is completed by hand.

In the days before Dec. 16, 2004: Election workers, fearing the cost and publicity of a monthlong hand recount, a special prosecutor now contends, meet in secret to crack open the ballots and hand-count votes, identifying precincts where the machine count of votes from election night exactly matches the hand count.

Dec. 16, 2004: Dozens of Cuyahoga County election workers sitting at 20 folding tables - in front of dozens of witnesses and reporters - begin recounting thousands of votes. They finish the next day. The special prosecutor alleges that the operation was a sham, that the workers pretended to randomly select precincts to count. When the hand-counted votes exactly match the computer count, the workers are permitted to complete the recount in a few hours, using machines, instead of taking a month to do it by hand. The recount gives Kerry an extra 17 votes and takes 6 away from Bush.<snip>

Special Prosecutor Kevin Baxter, who has obtained the indictments of three Cuyahoga Co BOE employees on misdemeanor and felony charges believes "the fix was in" with respect to the recount.

http://www.cleveland.com/election/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1144312870224340.xml&coll=2


So there we have it, Boys and Girls. A meaningless, "recount" after BOE officials engaged in illegal "Precinct steering" in Ohio's largest county, cheat sheets posted by Triad employees to avoid hand recounts in the downstate counties, and uninvited 'helpful' computer techs swapping memory cards between the election and the recount. All of this after a phony election night "Terror alert lockdown" in a "Bush Bible Belt" county which allowed late night vote machinations outside the prying eyes of the public.

NOW CAN WE CALL IT STOLEN?

:grr:

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:36 AM
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1. just keep pretending its all simple and local.
keep pretending they 'wanted to save money' or 'it was too much trouble'


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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:02 PM
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15. isn't cuyahoga county a dem stronghold?
why would a county that votes democrat 2-1 help Bush? This is the sort of story that keeps running around, but no one answers the primary question...why would democrats ALLOW this to happen in their own backyard? The same in other parts of the country and other counties...it's pretty hard for the opposition party to go in and mess with the election proceedings in a county with a majority party.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:40 AM
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2. You are being overly harsh!
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 07:41 AM by acmejack
They explained at the very end of the article:

"the workers were so tired and didn't want to hassle with doing a hand recount."

and don't forget:

"board employees had no objection to doing an exhaustive hand count if needed, meaning they had no motive to break the law."

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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:46 AM
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3. Duh?! They're facing felony charges...what else are they going to say?
And...Oh yeah... These SOBs are paid far more than most people on this board to do exactly that: to count the votes--and recount as necessary-- to ensure that our votes were matter.

The "Oh, we're sooo lazy" defense is just not going to fly.

:nopity:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:57 AM
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5. They seem to be surprised that people take their democracy seriously!
Yes, there are a small percentage of us out here that still do care. It is just so amazing that they act like this! My people are originally from Ohio, so I still have some attachment to the area, sentimental if nothing else.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:51 AM
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4. Bennett should resign
He's head of the Ohio GOP, hardly the person to trust with a clean election in Cuyahoga Co.

Any BOE members who were serving in 2004 and knew of this should also resign.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:44 AM
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9. They won't.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:20 AM
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13. We need to make them resign
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:04 AM
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6. Yes, All Can Dare Call it Stolen
And we can call the regime "never-legitimate."

And we can call the popular vote "manufactured."

And we can say the US Constitution is "in breach" and has been since Jan. 6th, 2001.

And we can say the lie about WMD "terrorized the nation into a criminal war."

And on and on.

But we have to say it that bluntly. And loudly. And often.

We have to get and stay nasty about it.

All of it. Yes, "Violence" is The Answer.

--
www.january6th.org
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:16 AM
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7. Cuyahoga County isn't a "'Bush Bible Belt' county", is it? It's Cleveland
which is heavily Dem. Or were you referring to the incident in Southern Ohio?
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:12 AM
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12. The election nite 'terror lockdown' was in Warren County ...Southwest Ohio
Where...just by the way... Bush gained his largest margins of victory.

Whodathunkit?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:06 PM
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14. just a coincidence
:sarcasm:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:34 AM
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8. I read all of these threads with great interest
to cover the event that some comedian should decide that the UK should switch to voting machines. Perish the thought.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:10 PM
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10. so can we count them now?
So can we get a real recount now?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 PM
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11. KICK
KICK

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:38 PM
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16. It makes me feel better...when history ultimately judges this dark period
of American politics, it will reflect that these Mother@%king assclowns who are piece-by-piece, bit-by-bit, attempting to DESTROY
our Country were NOT FAIRLY ELECTED!!
NOT in 2000; NOT in 2004!!
They are liars, killers and thieves, and this sort of revelation proves that the majority of Americans KNEW this.
Now let's get rid of them.
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