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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:46 PM
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Rice V. Rumsfeld: The Consequences Of No Post-War Plan

Rice V. Rumsfeld: The Consequences Of No Post-War Plan

April 6, 2006

The Bush Administration's incompetence and lack of a coherent plan in Iraq is matched only by their incoherence when it comes to their analysis of the situation on the ground. During her recent trip to England, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said that the United States had made "thousands" of "tactical errors" in handling the war in Iraq. However, during a radio interview this week, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said he did not know what Rice was talking

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TACTICAL MISTAKE: FAILING TO CAPTURE OSAMA BIN LADEN

After 9/11 Attacks Bush Promised To "Smoke Out" Osama Bin Laden And Win The War At All Costs.

Bush Administration Failed To Pursue and Capture Bin Laden At Tora Bora.

TACTICAL MISTAKE: FAILURE TO PLAN FOR POST-WAR IRAQ

Generals Admitted Bush Administration Never Planned for Post-War Iraq.

Secret Report Said Planning Process Flawed And Rushed.

Administration's Failure To Plan For Post-War Iraq Aided Insurgency.

TACTICAL MISTAKE: TROOPS DIDN'T GET THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEEDED

Pentagon Study Found that 80 Percent Of Marines Killed By Wounds To Upper Body Could Have Been Saved If They Had the Right Kind of Armor.

Hundreds Of Up-Armored Humvees Sitting In Parking Lots While Troops Face Increasing Violence.

Pentagon Bureaucracy Delayed Release of Anti-IED Technology For Almost A Year.

TACTICAL MISTAKE: IGNORING POTENTIAL FOR CIVIL WAR

National Intelligence Estimate Warned in 2003 Of the Strength of the Insurgency and the Possibility for Civil War.

Bush Administration Ignored Report Contents.

Iraq Teeters On Brink of Civil War.

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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:05 PM
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1. "To Be Provided"
And let's not forget that, in March 2003, only days before the start of the Iraq invasion, U.S. war planners and intelligence officials met in South Carolina at the Shaw Air Force Base, for the purpose of reviewing the Administration's plan to oust Sadaam Hussein and turn Iraq into a democracy.

An army lieutenant colonel showed a slide which was supposed to describe the Pentagon's plan to rebuild Iraq after the war.

When the lieutenant colonel's slide went up on the screen, it said "To Be Provided."
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:20 PM
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2. These are "failures" only if Bush's intentions were as he stated. If...
Bush lied about his intentions (as he has in fact lied about everything else) then these failures become something entirely different. Assuming that Bush's REAL intention is to create global Abrahamic theocracy to facilitate the tyranny essential to permanently safeguard capitalism -- whether Christian in the Americas or Islamic in the Middle East --then Bush's "failures" become huge successes, every one (especially the removal of Saddam Hussein and the escape of Osama bin Laden) vital to the cause of theocracy.

Indeed Bush has applied precisely the same strategy in post-Katrina New Orleans: using bogus "incompetence" to cover up the methodical ethnic, socioeconomic and political "cleansing" of a major city.

Wake up, people: our worst mistake is under-estimating the enemy.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:42 PM
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3. Yes.....when you look at the facts, it does become rather
strange. How could they NOT have planned for a post-war Iraq? Re: Katrina..did they really expect Americans to accept such a bull-crap 'reconstruction'?

There have been countless threads on this very topic: is it planned chaos? Or are they just that incompetent?

I'm still torn on the subject. I can't decide which. It used to drive me absolutely bonkers: I'd lay awake at night, wondering if Bush really WAS as stupid as he sounded. Or was he really an evil genius, who just pretended to be an idiot, and then fooled us all?

In my mind, the case is closed. Bush is an idiot. Cheney is stupid, Karl Rove and all the rest of them are WAY inadequate for the positions they hold.

But even if they DID plan the chaos, there's something really suicidal about their actions. They are still destroying their own future, their chances of being able to continue looting the treasury because it's empty.

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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:55 PM
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4. Because they are Christian Fundamentalists, they do not believe...
in the future. They believe these are the Last Days -- the time that ushers in the Christian equivalent of the Thousand-Year Reich: the thousand-year reign of the Select, God's Chosen -- and they govern accordingly.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:57 PM
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5. Stop Making Sense
George Parker writes that the reason that there was no plan to rebuild Iraq resulted from the pressure against "nation building" that was exerted by some of the groups that bush needed for going to war. The Cato for one, is absolutely against nation building and was wavering if the war plans contained post war plans. The charade was built upon an assurance that Iraq would be a simple "in and out." So, although reconstruction plans had been devised, the unholy cabal couldn't agree on anything other than to tear them up.

So when it is said that they planned this chaos, in a way that it true. They could only agree to behave like the madmen they are.

BTW, although there is much that Parker holds dear that I dearly hate, during the build-up and early years in Iraq, he had plenty of access, and to be fair, he is a good reporter. Now, he needs to shake the stupid assumption that the war was right; we just did it wrong. Fuck him for that. This whole concept was flawed at birth.
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